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    Default Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"

    Syliva, don't you ever have anything positive to say? If you can't say anything nice, then you shouldn't say anything at all.

    I'm beginning to think that you only post in threads just to piss everyone off.

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    You don't give me money, I sit there in silence. Nobody tips me on stage I don't dance, and I always get tipped the days I just sit on a speaker and count my money. I don't work for free, and if anyone thinks that five-ten dollars you pay to get in there is not going to my pocket so they can fuck off. Actually there was one day I sat there in my pj's till someone tipped me.

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    Default Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"

    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    why should guys be obligated to buy dances?

    its a bar, and if they choose to go there to eat and drink then so be it....

    its kind of like going to a bar that has a band playing music....you can sit there and drink and eat and enjoy the bands music and entertainment....but you dont have to pay the band....

    The band playing in the bar gets paid to be there.

    We work for tips. It is not the same thing.

    This additude is everywhere in PDX drives me up the wall!

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    Default Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"

    Has anyone managed to get dances off the "I don't do dances" guy?

    I have a couple of times by going back to say hello during the night and sometimes they cave in.

    Anyone try anything else?

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    Yeah it's an interesting incentive/compensation structure to be sure. On one hand, it makes the legal benefits of the system are clear as the club has no employee benefits, payroll taxes and other obligations (unless they make otherwise). Also makes it a little self filtering, since those that don't make the minimum will drop out.

    At the same time, there is a free rider problem where your presence and beauty attracts revenues (door fees, drinks etc.) that you don't benefit from. It's a little tricky since if they do revenue share based on say your overall performance then they're legally an employer. I think maybe if customers put money in a general tip pool (like at hotel) so that you get something even if they just looked at you but didn't buy a dance that would be helpful. Even better if they could list their top 5 dancers to allocate it towards and there's a house minimum (say $50) so even if you don't buy a single dance, it supports the dancers.

    Obviously this is getting complicated but if a MBA dancer ever starts up a club, give this a try and hire me as a consultant! I think it'll help align the incentives a bit since most dancers (granted not all) definitely add value just by being there even if you don't sell a single dance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelGirl View Post
    They're not obligated to pay for a private dance but there's a polite way to decline and a rude way that makes them assholes.

    It's sort of like being at a grocery store that is handing out free samples. You enjoy the free food and maybe the lady even lets you have several samples. Then she asks you with a smile if you would like to make a purchase. You can either:

    A. Say no thank you.
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    B. Sneer at her and say "I don't buy stuff I can get for free, what are you, stupid?" and then continue to stand at her table and eat her samples while making her feel incredibly uncomfortable.

    There's absolutely nothing wrong with A. In fact, in a strip club setting you could even continue to enjoy the samples after saying no thank you.

    B makes you an asshole in any setting.

    Bahahahahaha!!!!!! I'm sorry shit was funny!

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    Sylvia= La La La La La La Laxman!!!!!

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    Ugh come on girls Sylvia is SO OBVIOUSLY A MAN and a frustrated joke worthless creature you wouldnt want to poke with the neighbour's telephone pole, and he likes to come here and be a stupid little bitch. Just cuz youre too ugly to make friends or (especially a gf) doesnt mean you should let out your anger towards females you could NEVER get for more than a dance on our forum. GTFO you pathetic piece of shit lol!

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    Default Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dakotadancer View Post
    Has anyone managed to get dances off the "I don't do dances" guy?

    I have a couple of times by going back to say hello during the night and sometimes they cave in.

    Anyone try anything else?
    I have, but it's only because I'm willing to put in the time to hustle only 1-2 dances out of him on a very slow night when he is one of only a few, already occupied, customers. These guys normally take too much time. But basically sit with him, establish a rappor, continue to chat throughout the night, and maybe he will eventually buy a dance or two, which to me is not normally worth the time and effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakotadancer View Post
    Has anyone managed to get dances off the "I don't do dances" guy?

    I have a couple of times by going back to say hello during the night and sometimes they cave in.

    Anyone try anything else?
    I've never gotten a dance from a guy who's flat out told me "I don't buy dances" because I usually just walk away but there have been a few times where I've given a dance to a guy and he swears up and down that he never buys dances and didn't even plan on buying a dance until he saw me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslinn View Post
    You don't give me money, I sit there in silence. Nobody tips me on stage I don't dance, and I always get tipped the days I just sit on a speaker and count my money. I don't work for free, and if anyone thinks that five-ten dollars you pay to get in there is not going to my pocket so they can fuck off. Actually there was one day I sat there in my pj's till someone tipped me.
    dammit I wish I had half your attitude when I first started dancing! At least on shit nights I would've gone home amused hahaha

    Most guys I came across who came in to just drink and thats about it were just dicks, acted annoyed by the fact we even came over to them. One time I just went to say hi to a guy before I went on stage because frankly he looked sad, and he yelled at me that the wanted to be left alone and he didn't buy dances! Wow can you say wrong place to be left alone. However there were the few exceptions who were just cool to talk too, especially when I needed to look busy
    I'm here to make money. NOT make friends, if I make a friend then it's a bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lagirl View Post
    um u cant compare a dancer who pays a house fee and doesnt get paid by the club to a fucking band who gets paid to play there. my god are you that stupid?
    whenever i encounter one of those "i dont dance" guys i just walk away from them mid sentence. it always pisses them off.
    Ditto. I don't even bother asking why. I will tell them that they shouldn't be in a SC. Even worse, when they get annoyed bc they get approached by dancers. What the fuck. Really...then go to a regular fkn bar. We are here trying to pay our damn bills.

    P.S. Sylvia is NOT a damn stripper either. GTFO here with that shit.

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