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    Well I'm just trying to get into this biz, but i've been DJ'ing for 20 years -mostly weddings- and I take home about $1500-2000 for my average wedding (more than most DJ's make).

    I have my own music (2 Terabytes worth) and figure if I'm gonna promote a club on FB, work a full shift without breaks and hustle hard to make money for the girls at least 10% tip out should be expected -preferably more-

    Whether I make the same or 10X what a regular dancer makes is irrelevant, its all about the hustle you are creating and the business you are bringing in. Dancers take breaks, can get drunk or high or whatever, the DJ has to be working non stop with no breaks.

    Then I never get the thing about pay out and people bitching about what the pay out is ... at the end of the day it's what you are taking home ... Its better to pay 50% payout and take $1000 than 20% pay out and take $500 and its the same for the DJ, but some here don't get that.

    I've spent 20 years collecting music and the DJ has to make everyone happy and work for everyone, dancers are only working for themselves and there's a lot fewer DJs than dancers and it seems like its hard to get into this business anyway -alot harder than a dancer-

    That's what I think anyway

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    What BOTM said so beautifully. I never got high or drunk on the job (I don't really do those) and dancers should be paid more than a DJ, period for reasons mentioned. Btw, I have worked at clubs where I was lucky to get a bathroom break between going on stage or selling dances/drinks/VIP/etc. I have worked with DJs who were there to meet girls or were lousy DJs and they never should have made anything close to what I did and I was usually a high earner.

    Btw, DJ, many dancers have their own music. You should see my music collection, it numbers in the thousands. I used to bring several hundreds CDs to work with me. When a DJ played my music and only for me he received a generous tip.

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    hey i was just kidding around, geese!!
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    Um. Ew.
    I would never tip a DJ who told me to "pay my 10% and go grind some dick" ever.
    I'd immediately put in a complaint with both management AND corporate instead of tipping... And encourage others to do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CasablancaDJ View Post
    Pay your 10% and go back and grind ur booty on that dick
    And here's an example of why some girls refuse to pay the DJ.

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    $10 for me. Nothing if he's rude.

    I have mandatory $20 tip at my current club, which is too much considering that DJ can't get my name right half the time and refuses to do anything about customers videotaping girls on stage--he doesn't even broadcast a warning. If I didn't have to I wouldn't give that loser a nickel.
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    LMAO, ok then how about 'You take care of me and I take care of you' ... is that better??

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    you ladies are hypersensitive, don't take your anger out on the DJ, he's there to hustle for you! i was just joking around

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    Quote Originally Posted by CasablancaDJ View Post
    you ladies are hypersensitive, don't take your anger out on the DJ, he's there to hustle for you! i was just joking around
    You have to understand that we hear shit like this at the club on a nightly basis. We come to SW to get away from that. So when someone comes into our house and insults us, we're going to jump down your throat. So just keep that in mind when you post and everyone will be a happy camper

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    alright my bad, i'm totally new at this, its good that i'm learning now on a chat board and not at a real job situation

    i apologize, i don't mean no disrespect

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    OK Casablanca, you are learning right away how NOT to get tipped well in this business.



    Unlike so many DJs and dancers I have seen, I NEVER drink at work, and I NEVER hustle the dancers for sex or make crude comments anything remotely resembling what the horny customers say. I'm no angel, but I also try not to even date them at my own club--wait until they go to another club for that. It can be hard to resist mutual attraction if they are coming on to you (which won't happen much if you make sexual jokes all the time haha)

    If you want to make money in this business, you have to put yourself on an entirely different level than the customers. If you last, the longer you do it, the easier this will be. Trust me on that one.


    As far as the DJ getting breaks. The bigger and busier the club, the less likely this is to happen. It's just something you have to deal with. Like trying to get the dancers to the stage--who are drunk, high, or just missing in action for any number of reasons--that's been more than half my job for the last three and a half years.

    Which is why I emphatically, absolutely deserve to make the amount of money I have been making, whether or not it's more than the fattest, ugliest, laziest, drunkest, most drug-addled dancers in the club. The really hot hustlers will almost always make more, which is fine with me.

    I certainly can empathize with Laurisa and the other dancers who are sick of dealing with drunk or just really fucking stupid DJs who couldn't help them make money if they tried--but don't seem to even try. Or some of them--the fucking cheesy ones, who actually seem to hurt the atmosphere of the club. No, your nasally, whining, irritating voice while you deliver the same trite, insipid jokes about wishing you were that pole, or 'What's 6 inches long with a head on it'. etc., is not helping anyone have fun or make money. I wouldn't want to tip them either--just as you might not want to tip some nasty ugly rude bitch onstage as a customer.

    On the other hand, a really good DJ can and will turn a club around, if the potential is there and it wasn't being correctly utilized by the previous DJ (like if he was a drunken lecher haha). I've done it a few times. Sometimes it's harder than others. But if and when you do that, you deserve whatever the fuck the dancers are tipping you voluntarily above the minimum--just as they deserve whatever the fuck the customers tip them or pay them for dancing to the music you are playing in the club all night long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurisa View Post
    $10 for me. Nothing if he's rude.

    I have mandatory $20 tip at my current club, which is too much considering that DJ can't get my name right half the time and refuses to do anything about customers videotaping girls on stage--he doesn't even broadcast a warning. If I didn't have to I wouldn't give that loser a nickel.
    In most of the clubs I've worked, I will go grab that fucker and throw him out myself. The club before last, I wasn't allowed to do that. But quite often a DJ who cares will wind up doing some bouncing as well. If I see trouble coming I will put on a longer song (just in case lol) and go check it out, unless it's really fucking busy in which case I'll call security.

    I always take care of the women I work with, whatever it takes. Which is why I generally get tipped more than minimum. 20$ does seem high though, especially if the guy sucks. What's up with that?
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    I appreciate the feedback, I was a Top Wedding DJ in my industry for a long time because I figured out what to do and what not to do.

    This is a completely new ballgame for me though.

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    Then don't think of dancers like that because you will not last long as a DJ, trust me. I got a few DJs fired who were unprofessional and as a professional always while dancing I expect the same in return. I don't drink or do drugs and never grinded dick. When a DJ was respectful, didn't try to ask me out, and played my music he got a larger tip. When he was a jerk he got nothing.

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    Hate to break it to you Casablanca... but any income I've made from a DJ "hustling" for me has been infinitesimal in comparison to income made on my own. Nobody tips a dancer because a DJ tells them to. Unless you're playing the chicken dance nobody gives a fuck what she's dancing to either. Customers tune this stuff out. I tip DJs well because they also depend on tips for the most part and because I like getting along with coworkers... not because they earn me much more money than a jukebox would. (No offense to the other DJs here.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    In most of the clubs I've worked, I will go grab that fucker and throw him out myself. The club before last, I wasn't allowed to do that. But quite often a DJ who cares will wind up doing some bouncing as well. If I see trouble coming I will put on a longer song (just in case lol) and go check it out, unless it's really fucking busy in which case I'll call security.

    I always take care of the women I work with, whatever it takes. Which is why I generally get tipped more than minimum. 20$ does seem high though, especially if the guy sucks. What's up with that?
    Well at this club we don't have a house fee IF we arrive before 7 PM. It's $50 per hour house fee if you are late. So you tip the DJ $20 and the housemom $10 and pay valet $5. So actually it's a really upscale club with a really low tipout and no house fee--actually not all that unfair. I would prefer to just tip the house mom, and honestly she deserves $20 and the DJ deserves $10. The housemom cooks us dinner, talks to us, watches our stuff, she's a great woman. The DJ is fucking annoying and him not caring about illegal videotaping really rubs me the wrong way.

    So all in all I don't particularly care because the total tipout/house fee is so low at that club, but the club sucks and is dangerous and full of prostitutes and real sleazefuck customers.

    I had one great DJ before and I tried to tip that guy as much as I could afford. He was fantastic. Now I should mention that while most of the time I only gave him $10-15, I also bought him dinner every night (along with 3-4 other staff members). This was at a Deja Vu that took 1/3 of my earnings. So I'd sell $1100 worth of stuff, be forced to wait until 4:45 AM--we closed at 4 AM--to "cash out" (horrible policy) but then I'd pay them $200-300 and then spend another $20 tipping out staff. On top of that I was spending $10-20/night on food for the staff, and $20-25 in gas! It was horrendous, a lot of money to be made, but a lot of money wasted too. So even though he only got $10-15 out of me he was also getting free food/drinks.

    I just couldn't justify tipping more than I already was considering how much I was spending a night ($250-$400 total)!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    Djoser, you are obviously not the normal dj so you should be tipped more than the normal dj. However, I still don't think there should be a minimum for dj as long as he is receiving his minimum wage. Its just not fair.
    No it's not, especially when the DJ is awful and hitting on the dancers, and still makes more than the dancers. I think Djoser is the exception to the rule and deserves what he makes but have worked with so many who aren't. I have seen DJs make more than ALL the dancers because it was a slow night and that is wrong, especially if the DJ isn't good.

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    Laurisa where you forced to buy them dinner or just did it to be nice?

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    I wasn't forced to buy them dinner per se, but me and the other top earning dancer would go grab food and staff just started piling in their requests for food. Within a few weeks people just expected it so it became normal. I guess no one stopped to ask if we were OK with it. Just because I was making $100/hour doesn't mean I had to share it, they just assumed. I've wasted so much money on that club, I hate them all.
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    And they didn't offer money? When I worked at clubs where someone did a run I always paid and so did others. Unfortunately many staff members take advantage of dancers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol1337a View Post
    Hate to break it to you Casablanca... but any income I've made from a DJ "hustling" for me has been infinitesimal in comparison to income made on my own. Nobody tips a dancer because a DJ tells them to. Unless you're playing the chicken dance nobody gives a fuck what she's dancing to either. Customers tune this stuff out. I tip DJs well because they also depend on tips for the most part and because I like getting along with coworkers... not because they earn me much more money than a jukebox would. (No offense to the other DJs here.)
    They do sometimes tip when you tell them to--but you have to do it in the right way. Using the cheesy nasal running on and on method of announcing will never work. This impresses really stupid owners and managers, because their tiny pea brains think that's the way stripclubs DJs should sound, because that's what they are used to. Wrong.

    Use a voice that commands attention. Tell them to tip when it's a hot girl trying really hard to put on a show. Don't waste your breath trying to get guys to tip a fat cow that's not even dancing, because not only will it fail miserably, but the guys will tune you out that much quicker. It's good to keep announcing occasionally that the girls are dancing 'for tips and tips alone', because some guys don't know that. I didn't when I first started going as a young dumb punk out of college!

    Best of all--if there's a dancer up there really trying, and there's guys sitting there watching like sea slugs? Go up there with a fucking dollar yourself! DO NOT let her rub her tits in your face or whatever for it--that's not why you are tipping her--you are tipping her ONLY to set an EXAMPLE to the asshole customers. Better yet by far, send another dancer to tip her with your dollar and talk them both the hell up and mention the tipping, etc.

    Not only will this work, but the cool dancers will appreciate the hell out of you for doing it, because very few DJs (who aren't trying to suck up and get tits in their face) will ever do this--most of them think they are too cool lol.

    Of course, if it's a dancer who stiffs you regularly, tough shit for her. Do it for the ones who take care of you, or the ones who tip minimum but seem really cool and are easy to work with.


    Also, what music you play as a DJ can make a HUGE difference in the atmosphere of the club, how happy the dancers are onstage (and thus how well they dance--which the customers often DO appreciate), what kind of mood is going n for private dances (this is why I will never play those fucking Southpark type joke songs some of these moronic DJs thinks are so fucking funny), and how long the customers will stay. Some customers don't give a shit, it's true. But for every customer that doesn't care whether you are playing shitty music, there's at least one who does care very much and will leave, or stay if you don't play shitty music--and another customer or two who will stay if you play kickass music that keeps the energy level high and people feeling upbeat and sexual.

    This does not mean playing whatever all the dancers want every single time they go up. Because then you'll be playing the same cheesy fucking PopTop40 schlock that everyone has already heard 30 times in their car on the fucking radio, that all the girls want to hear every single time they go up. Or they will demand you play horrible, slow, weird depressing shit at midnight on friday night--or just really slow schlocky love songs that are big on the radio but drive the energy level right through the bottom of the floor. Or if you have a bunch of ghetto dancers, you'll be playing all hardcore rap all night, and nothing drives out customers with money faster than that. I've heard it said a zillion times 'Plenty of older guys with money like new rap!'. Bullshit. For every old guy with money that likes rap, there's 200 that would rather hear anything else at all.

    I've been to jukebox clubs, and that's the kind of crap you hear almost every time. The notable execption being Mons Venus in Tampa--but Mons Venus also has nothing but Penthouse Pets working there, about 60 of them. In a club like that, yeah you can probably play whatever you want lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurisa View Post
    I wasn't forced to buy them dinner per se, but me and the other top earning dancer would go grab food and staff just started piling in their requests for food. Within a few weeks people just expected it so it became normal. I guess no one stopped to ask if we were OK with it. Just because I was making $100/hour doesn't mean I had to share it, they just assumed. I've wasted so much money on that club, I hate them all.
    That kind of sucks that they started expecting it. I have had dancers take care of me with food, and even if they tipped me minimum I sure as hell appreciated it! Food costs money! Duh...

    Plus it's the time, effort, and thought that counts.

    And yeah, I never worked there, but if the club you are referring to is part of the huge giant chain club, the Walmart of stripclubs, I hate those places too. My ex quit that one place in disgust, even though she was actually making fairly good money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CasablancaDJ View Post
    LMAO, ok then how about 'You take care of me and I take care of you' ... is that better??
    No. that just implies the threat that you're going to intentionally fuck us over should you decide you aren't being "adequately"taken care of.
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    Eh, he may have made the extremely bad joke about grinding, but I don't read the implied threat into that statement.

    'You take care of me I take care of you.' is just a variant of the Golden Rule 'Do unto others...'

    Now if you add an 'or else...' at the end, it's a different story lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CasablancaDJ View Post
    Well I'm just trying to get into this biz, but i've been DJ'ing for 20 years -mostly weddings- and I take home about $1500-2000 for my average wedding (more than most DJ's make).

    I have my own music (2 Terabytes worth) and figure if I'm gonna promote a club on FB, work a full shift without breaks and hustle hard to make money for the girls at least 10% tip out should be expected -preferably more-

    Whether I make the same or 10X what a regular dancer makes is irrelevant, its all about the hustle you are creating and the business you are bringing in. Dancers take breaks, can get drunk or high or whatever, the DJ has to be working non stop with no breaks.

    Then I never get the thing about pay out and people bitching about what the pay out is ... at the end of the day it's what you are taking home ... Its better to pay 50% payout and take $1000 than 20% pay out and take $500 and its the same for the DJ, but some here don't get that.

    I've spent 20 years collecting music and the DJ has to make everyone happy and work for everyone, dancers are only working for themselves and there's a lot fewer DJs than dancers and it seems like its hard to get into this business anyway -alot harder than a dancer-

    That's what I think anyway


    Attitudes like this are exactly why we don't like tipping the DJ. We work hard for our money and all you do is play a couple songs for us a night. You don't sound like you fit into this business.

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