Results 1 to 6 of 6

Thread: Employees in NYS

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Joined
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Buffalo, NY
    Posts
    92
    Thanks
    30
    Thanked 36 Times in 23 Posts

    Default Employees in NYS

    So the rumor is that by the end of the calendar year, clubs in New York State will be forced to pay dancers and treat them like employees... and not just at the service industry minimum wage, but at the 7.25 an hour wage. I know that many dancers always say that they are treated like employees and should be paid as such, but now that the actual day may be around the corner, is that a good thing for dancers? First off, now there is going to have to be documentation of employment, meaning no benifits for being "unemployed" anymore... also, you know the owners of the club are not going to make less money, so their loss in income will be passed onto the dancers... extra taxes will have to be paid by both dancers and owners. Also, this means that dancers will no longer actually be their own bosses, but will be treated like employees now... I think that this is not actually a good development for dancers, but only the govt wins because of extra taxes... thoughts?

  2. #2
    God/dess Sophia_Starina's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Nudie-Land
    Posts
    7,219
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 4,151 Times in 1,462 Posts
    My Mood
    Sneaky

    Default Re: Employees in NYS

    Gossip aside, can you cite any sources? Links please....
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay12 View Post
    ^What Sophia said.
    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    I wish there was an "auto-like" setting that I could just have applied to all of your posts Sophia....

  3. #3
    God/dess arielbriel's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    4,942
    Thanks
    20,254
    Thanked 7,454 Times in 2,760 Posts

    Default Re: Employees in NYS

    Doubt it.

  4. #4
    Banned Melonie's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2002
    Location
    way south of the border
    Posts
    25,932
    Thanks
    612
    Thanked 10,563 Times in 4,646 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3
    My Mood
    Cynical

    Default Re: Employees in NYS

    actually, this proposal WAS floated in Albany by union lobbyists and downstate politicians ... with the actual objective being not just the minimum wage documentation but official documentation of ALL tip / VIP / CR income by all New York dancers ( i.e. forcing them to pay NY state and city income taxes on every dollar earned based on 'employer' clubs being required to process every dancer dollar through the club's payroll system), as well as the potential for unionization of dancers. Some politicians also supported this since 'employee' status would force clubowners to start making contributions to the state's unemployment insurance fund and disability insurance fund ( both of which are broke ) on behalf of every dancer they employ.

    Arguably this was an outgrowth of NY court rulings re Ricks and other strip club lawsuits which consistently found that dancers were entitled to 'employee' classification based on their treatment by the clubs.

    Last I heard this proposal was 'trapped' in committee.

  5. #5
    God/dess firemaiden04's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2008
    Location
    NY
    Posts
    2,652
    Thanks
    3,054
    Thanked 2,005 Times in 903 Posts

    Default Re: Employees in NYS

    This has already affected most of the clubs in my area. My last club was forced to start paying dancers an hourly wage as of February 1, 2010. However, the owner immediately afterwards started trying to force all the dancers to "tip" him, as the old house fees and mandatory tip outs had gone straight to him and not to the bouncers or DJ's, and he was pissed about losing that money. As a matter of fact, that may have been one of the reasons he had me fired last April, as I blatantly refused to tip him a fucking cent, and I refused to go back off the books, like some of the other dancers elected to do. I had absolutely no reason not to be on the books, as I paid taxes on my earnings anyways, so it made filing a hell of a lot easier. Other girls were either hiding their income so they could still get welfare and other government assistance, or paranoid about anyone ever knowing they had been dancers (though these tended to be the dancers who had SD's that were major public figures, with whom they would go to press events, so I don't think they were as concerned about privacy as they claimed).

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Joined
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Buffalo, NY
    Posts
    92
    Thanks
    30
    Thanked 36 Times in 23 Posts

    Default Re: Employees in NYS

    http://www.law.com/jsp/nylj/PubArtic...n=1&hbxlogin=1


    http://www.natlawreview.com/article/...s-granted-righ

    some links I found in the past 5 minutes of searching. Although where I got my information from was the lawyer for the club in NYS that I worked for that was recently sold. Gossip I suppose, but from a reliable source to me. Choose to believe it or now, I was just trying to see what everyone thought were the pros and cons.

Similar Threads

  1. Tipping Hotel Employees
    By teaze in forum Other Work
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 11-13-2011, 01:34 PM
  2. NYS Sex Performer Registry Bill
    By Golden_Rule in forum Industry Insight
    Replies: 72
    Last Post: 06-21-2009, 09:18 PM
  3. Notice to all employees.
    By aussiepunkshocker in forum The Lounge
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 10-08-2006, 06:35 AM
  4. Salary of club employees
    By in forum The Lounge
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 04-05-2003, 11:45 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •