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    So. My roommate/girlfriend and I started at Sapphire about 3 weeks ago, and all was well until a few nights ago.

    We went in to go to work, and weren't allowed to clock in. The guy at the counter asked if we'd had any "problems" the last time we'd worked. We said no - honestly, no issues. We were told to speak to a manager named Gordon.

    We came back (well, I went back - girlie stayed home) and I talked to this Gordon guy. Apparently, thanks to a couple of overheard comments taken COMPLETELY out of context, we had been flagged as HOOKERS who had a fucking pimp. I sat and talked to Gordon for almost an hour, and found out that apparently at Sapphire, "Perception is everything", but managed to get it all straightened out.

    I have a strange situation at home, or what seems strange to most. The long and short of it is that my fiance and I have a girlfriend - you've probably seen Almost Jaded posting about on here. Well, apparently coming and going together, always picked up by the same guy, talking about finances in the dressing room (figuring out who is contributing to what bill) and a comment along the lines of "We gotta get out there or he's gonna kill us." from our girlfriend when we were running late to get out of the club is enough to cause people to think we're prostitutes with a pimp who is abusive. He's not a pimp, he's her boyfriend and my fiance. And we aren't hookers - I'm one of the cleanest dancers I know and our girl is even cleaner than me. We come and go together because we LIVE TOGETHER. We always get picked up and dropped off in the same car because it's the only working car in the house. But, like I said, I got it all handled.

    We worked the next night with no problems.

    Cue girlfriend going into work tonight without me. I take Mondays off - we drop her off at work and not 5 minutes later get a phone call. Both of our contracts were *terminated* at Gordon's command - apparently, a comment made as we were walking out last night that "Strippers are kinda like hookers, I guess ... only WE DON'T HAVE SEX FOR MONEY." got us flagged again, and apparently terminated.

    Ok, I get it - retarded comment to make. The words "hooker" or "prostitute" don't belong anywhere NEAR a strip club ... but the words "Do NOT have sex for money." were in that statement too.

    We've been trying to get hold of Gordon for hours now and keep getting the run-around. He's not in yet, he's unavailable, etc. They won't even let us sit and wait for him - they're making us physically LEAVE THE PROPERTY. I guess we'll see what happens.

    So, my question is this - do any of you girls who have worked or are currently working at Sapphire have any advice? Or have any of you experienced this before?

    And my warning? Watch what you fucking say and do. Apparently, anything is enough to get you red flagged and knock you out of work for an entire weekend. No comments about money, no joking about your boyfriend getting mad at you, nothing. And don't so much as THINK the work "hooker" or "prostitute". They can hear your thoughts, man.

    I dunno WHAT the fuck. Guess we'll see when I call back at 2...
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    I've danced there for many years. My best advice to you is go to work, mind your business, make your money and leave quietly. The less attention you bring to yourselves, the better. Hanging out in the dressing room is frowned upon as to it shows you're not doing the club any good for making yourself much less them, money.
    Unfortunately, as unique and sensible situation you may have at home, that explanation you gave them will probably not fly because you as a dancer are replaceable faster than a roll of toilet paper in that club. With 400 girls per night, and 20 auditions per night, they don't need to do any favors for girls. You're lucky they even heard you out.
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    I do my best to go to work, make my money, and leave. I don't hang out in the dressing room unless you count the 10 minutes it takes per night to dress in and out.

    I AM lucky they even heard me out - I get that especially in a club like Sapphire, I'm nothing more than a number. I kinda thought that was comforting at first, and I'd just be able to fly under the radar. Apparently not. I didn't think that hosts and managers would pay THAT much attention to a lowly stripper or two who are only one or two out of 400-600! What the HELL?

    Ah, well. I am lucky - it's Vegas, and I'll be fine. Just seriously? I was doing well at Sapphire and I don't want my dancing experience there to be 3 weeks and a termination for something that isn't true and isn't my fault.
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    That sucks. Strip club managers are not know for being open minded, so even after you explained yourself you got fired So why even let you explain yourself? Ugh. I'm annoyed for you!
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    The only reason I have lasted at that club as long as I have is by

    1. Barely talking to ANYBODY (really a hi, hows your night? ok great, is about as far as it goes)

    2. Not getting drunk at work

    3. Fake smiling and hee hawing with management when necessary

    4.Being as LOW PROFILE as possible

    If you are not buddied up with any of the managers Sapphire is not an easy place to work, IMO. Like kikiwiki said, get in, get out and make as least noise as possible. There is a lot of money to be made but there is also ALOT of power tripping that goes on there. And the crazy thing is, I remember when the environment was so much more welcoming and not tense and hostile and it was actually a fun place to work. But, its not the only gig in town, best of luck to you, Gordon is actually one of the nicer managers employed there.

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    i would think you were a hooker too with those kinds of comments and actions. sorry it's not true but it sure made you look guilty THEN you made some comment like that as you waltzed to your mans car. not good. i seriously doubt you will be allowed back.
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    ^ I definitely can see that too...I mean, how many times would you hear conversations like that when they aren't talking about a pimp situation?

    Obviously they should've come to you first with their suspicions, but that's a lot to ask of anyone in this business! Honestly, I'm surprised management cares about their reputation enough to take such drastic measures based on mere rumors. It's both a good and a bad thing, eh?

    I'm sorry this happened to you though.

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    Side note: I seriously don't understand (still) how women make money in places like that. I mean, aren't there times during the day when there are like 200 girls on a shift and only 50 customers are in the entire club? Doesn't that make such an enormous place look depressing as hell? Or is it just constantly packed? My small-town stripper mind has been blown!

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    MissMynxx, I'm very sorry that this happened to you and your girlfriend. It's absolutely unjust and unfair for you to have lost your jobs--especially over something as nonsensical as overheard conversations.

    It's just completely wrong!

    And it must have hurt, too, to be treated so badly--especially when you work very hard and you and your girlfriend are both very clean dancers. I'm really sorry to learn that this happened to you.

    I've never been to Las Vegas, so I can only go by what others have posted: if you're not reinstated at Sapphire, I'm sure that you and your girlfriend will easily find other--and better!--situations.

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    Ah your bf is charlie sheen

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    Haven't worked at sapphire in a while, but Gordon's a great guy and he'll have your back if it's deserved.

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    I agree, I've never seen or heard of a manager there, especially Gordon, give grief to a dancer unless it was warranted. I'm sure you're telling the truth about your story, tho it is outside the norm of typical bf/gf relationships, but I would have to hear the managers side of the story before I can make a judgement as to what happened to you was unfair.
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    Gordon and Lee are the good guys. Jimmy on the other hand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    i would think you were a hooker too with those kinds of comments and actions. sorry it's not true but it sure made you look guilty THEN you made some comment like that as you waltzed to your mans car. not good. i seriously doubt you will be allowed back.
    I absolutely agree with this. Perhaps the girls that are ratting on you don't like you there for some reason. (competition?) I don't see Gordon going out of his way to get involved unless someone is ratting who he is friendly with.

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    I am sorry that happened to you, but I agree with Pure, Dyllan, and Head Turner 2. I have been there for a couple of years and the best thing to do is really not try to draw so much attention to yourself in the back when you getting ready. I check in, say hi, get dressed and I am out. I barely ever stay back there because I am focused on getting dances. Gordon is a sweatheart in my opinion and he is open to hearing the girls out. Someone is probably not agreeing with you and you gf's conversations for a reason.
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    You should probably go to Rhino and try to work there. Because, it seems like you won't be able to resolve your issue. Just move on and work somewhere else. I personally worked at Sapphire and they appear to be no non sense. And, not very compassionate.
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    I would of thought the same overhearing your conversation to be honest. Oh well, you're in Vegas..NEXT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure View Post
    The only reason I have lasted at that club as long as I have is by

    1. Barely talking to ANYBODY (really a hi, hows your night? ok great, is about as far as it goes)

    2. Not getting drunk at work

    3. Fake smiling and hee hawing with management when necessary

    4.Being as LOW PROFILE as possible

    If you are not buddied up with any of the managers Sapphire is not an easy place to work, IMO. Like kikiwiki said, get in, get out and make as least noise as possible. There is a lot of money to be made but there is also ALOT of power tripping that goes on there. And the crazy thing is, I remember when the environment was so much more welcoming and not tense and hostile and it was actually a fun place to work. But, its not the only gig in town, best of luck to you, Gordon is actually one of the nicer managers employed there.

    She is dead on......I worked at that club for six years and had no problems by minding my own business and keeping a low profile. I never got buddy buddy with ANY of the managers though, other than saying Hi and tipping them nightly. Matt was always cool to me though.

    Once you are on someone's shit list, you are always on that shit list. Happened to me after my husband was fired from there for being accused of being a drug dealer, LMAO!!!! We own a detail business and Sapphire was one of our accounts, and I was working there as a dancer there as well. Ended up leaving there for good and haven't been back for over a year and a half now.

    And I also agree that Gordon is a really good guy. He has to watch his own ass too though, so he has to do what he has to do to keep HIS boss happy and keep his OWN job.

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    Yup, LOW PROFILE is key here! Shit, at any club period. It's when I've started to make friends at a club that I start making less money, and silly little problems arise.
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    I made another thread about this club
    http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthr...isgusting+club

    I did keep to myself the whole time, but it seems that these people (in a constant power trip) also hate being ignored Because then "Im the one who has an attitude"
    They want to take half your money while you smile really big and kiss their greedy asses; Any way they're history, I just keep thinking that nothing in this life goes unpaid...

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    This is the second time I've heard of a dancer being falsely accused of being a hooker at that club. Its kind of strange in a way because Sapphire loves hookers. They must love them since they have their "favorites" who spend a great deal of time in the skybox doing more than dances. Then again, as long as the club's hookers are giving them a cut of their income, its perfectly OK. Its when the hooker doesn't give them a cut that they suddenly have standards.

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    I forgot I had posted this thread, lol.

    I appreciate all the honest comments about how it's certainly true that hearing that conversation would have made some of you think the same thing. Like I said, I completely understand and acknowledge that such a conversation should NEVER have happened in a club. Frankly, the word "hooker" and "sex" probably just ... shouldn't ever happen in a club.

    I just found it strange that innocuous comments that people have all said from time to time (ie, the "We gotta go or he's gonna kill us!" while LAUGHING...) would have gotten us flagged in the first place, and despite that being the ONLY comment made the first time around, in combination with the fact that we came and went together and always in the same car with the same guy would have been enough to raise suspicion. That was what really struck me as off. How many men have said, "I can't go to the bar again, or my wife will kill me." or "Oh my god, if I dye my hair pink my mom will KILL me." Seriously?

    The other thing was the amazing amount of skepticism I was met with when I came to my explanation of WHY we always come and go together. At first, there was no talk of a poly relationship - merely saying that AJ and I were an engaged couple with a long-term roommate. It's just simply easier in a household with ONE WORKING CAR to come and go to the same place, at the same time. It was like Gordon couldn't understand that some people - even strippers and engaged/married couples - have roommates for one reason or another. That was what he kept hanging on. "So ... you guys are engaged but you have a ROOMMATE?!" It was like the concept was over his head.

    The second conversation, I can TOTALLY understand. I guess. Sorta. Okay, not really - but whatever. "Strippers are kinda like hookers, I guess, only we don't have sex for money." Followed by a, "Some customers just don't get it, do they?" on the way out the door. Honestly, do they not have better things to get on a girl for - like open touching of pussies on the floor or the illicit activities I have SEEN happen in Skybox? Who the hell do you have to tip to get these guys to "look the other way" that I didn't give enough money to?

    I can understand in a club like that - not tipping the right people or enough, pissing off the wrong floorwalker/host or manager, or rubbing another girl the wrong way - can put your job in jeopardy. I was expecting that.

    What I was NOT expecting was the first incident, especially. She and I did nothing besides check in, tip the check in girl/guy, walk to the dressing room, dress out, work, dress out, tip, and leave. To the same car, with the same guy. We talked amongst ourselves, sure - quietly and carefully. Made no friends, did our best to stay low.

    Like I said, the second one - okay. FINE. But ... really?

    I don't know who's Cheerios I pissed in, or who's SHE pissed in - but it just seemed VERY odd. The conversation the second time around wasn't even a loud or boisterous conversation - it was another quiet one, talking about a customer on the floor that we'd run into.

    I was under investigation for "suspicion of domestic violence" and "having a pimp" which are both apparently under a zero-tolerance policy. My roommate was the one under investigation for "prostitution" and also "having a pimp". I don't know why Gordon suspected her and not me, but I asked for clarification, and was given what I asked for in NO uncertain terms.

    I haven't bothered going back. I'm happier at smaller clubs where shit like that doesn't happen because the management and dancers get pretty tight-knit. I have NEVER had that sort of problem at ANY other club - not Hustler, not Vu, not Rhino, nowhere.

    I have wondered if it had something to do with the guy who got us hired, honestly. I found out later that 4 other girls he had brought in also got terminated for no apparently legitimate reason. The guy - who I won't mention at his request - had a serious falling out with Jimmy, Gordon, and one other dude who's name I don't remember.

    Who knows. Who cares. Whatever. Bah.
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    Heh, stuff like this doesn't just happen in Vegas....when my SO used to pick me up before I started driving on my own I would hand him all my money before getting dressed out. It was easier that way. Supposedly now he is my pimp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Jessica View Post
    Yup, LOW PROFILE is key here! Shit, at any club period. It's when I've started to make friends at a club that I start making less money, and silly little problems arise.
    ^
    Word. I've been a dancer for a long time and I've learned how to be "low profile". It works for me.

    Btw, sort of a thread jack, but half my immediate family lives in Vegas and I have always been afraid to try and work anywhere there. Not rejection, but just the power trips I've read about and watching your own back. I have lots of admiration for you girls who do well there.
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    I had a manager physically open the door of my friend's car and drag me out because he saw me getting into a man's car and thought I was going to do hooker stuff. For no reason at all, I was just leaving my car in the lot while he rolled in and we went for breakfast across the street.

    This manager liked me though, that's why he was paying extra attention. Minxx, Do you think maybe a lovelorn bouncer or manager busted you and your girl?

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