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    Hey everyone I just published a new interview we did with Ashly Lorenzana...if you aren't familiar she has a wild history and story...some of which she's documented in her self published book, "Sex, Drugs, and Being an Escort".

    She's actually done quite a few radio and written interviews, but we were fortunate to have her do a skype interview with us to learn a little more about her world. Just wanted to share the interview here for people thinking about getting into escorting and wanting to hear her story...from her directly.

    http://extralunchmoney.com/blog/ashl...erview-part-1/

    As always, if you guys have feedback, questions you want me to ask next time, or suggestions, don't hesitate to let me know. Don't worry about hurting my feelings...just want to make these interviews more useful for all...

    Here's Ashly's description of herself from her own website:
    My name is Ashly and for the past several years I have worked as a female escort. I started out by advertising in the now extinct Craig's List "erotic services" section. Having lived with my grandparents for most of my childhood, moving to Portland from the Oregon Coast gave me a chance to spend some time with my mother.
    Like her, I'm a drug addict with a decided preference for crystal meth or "uppers" in general. In an odd and unexpected way, it was our addictions that brought us "together." It always seemed to be a man that ended up forcing us apart again.

    Here's some background on Ashly taken from the Oregon Live Website

    She was only 17 when she tacked her first ad to the "Erotic Services" board on Craigslist.

    Ashly Lorenzana posted a picture and wrote something "short and sweet: 'If you want to hang out ...' I didn't know if you were supposed to get creative with it." She only got creative with her age, claiming she was 18, or barely legal.

    Within two hours, she had almost 100 bidders for her services. "I'm sure the 18 thing attracted most people," Lorenzana says six years later. "In my experience, it does." She returned the call of a guy with a nice voice, and asked her mother's boyfriend to give her a ride to the client's house.
    He was in his mid-30s. She didn't know what to charge, Lorenzana says. "So, I just copied my mom. I asked for $100 for an hour."

    And how did that hour unfold?

    "He seemed to like me. He seemed pretty impressed with the entire experience," she remembers.

    "He tipped me. He wanted to see me again. That made me feel good. I didn't know anyone when I moved up here."

    Because her mother was 14 when she was born, Ashly Lorenzana was raised by her grandparents on the Oregon coast, only coming to live in Portland whenever Cynthia Steinhauer was between relapses in her drug dependency.
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    A 17 year old escort? Just wow.

    And she found her way into a drug habit? not right.

    Escorting is not for the weak. If you had a shopping habit you'll become even more addicted to the shopping. If you had a drug habit, you'll do even more powerful drugs. Some people get bored with the money and feel that they will feel better high on drugs. Most of the escorts I know are not like that. They are clean, independent women who get in this business, make their money and get out CLEAN and SOBER! I am 21 and got into this business at 19 year old. I was not into drugs before I got in so it would be stupid of me or anyone to get into the business and all the sudden start doing drugs because of the cash access. However, It happens and when it does, it gets ugly.

    Oh and if she was charging $100 an hour, it's pretty clear that there was nothing VIP about her. Why wouldn't she have 100 bidders for her services? Do you know what $100 is? That is no money for having sex with complete strangers and god knows what type of men she was sleeping with at $100 an hour. Any bum on the street can get access to $100. It is REALLY not a lot of money for escort services. She also advertised on craigslist which was a known directory for non VIP/Trashy girls.. so her experiences would be a lot different from ladies that market themselves as VIP and only cater to upscale clientele. It is sad that she found herself in that predicament. That is my 10 cents.

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    Im going to try to find time to finish watching the interview today but what I've seen so far is just sad. I find myself wishing you had chosen someone less stereotypical. The interview itself is well done, but - ugh.

    (Of course I guess it would be very very difficult to find a high end escort who would agree to be interviewed).

    I can't help but think she's not too bright to agree to have her face out there all over the net. Wonder how long it'll take for her to find herself in jail now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post

    I can't help but think she's not too bright to agree to have her face out there all over the net. Wonder how long it'll take for her to find herself in jail now?
    My thoughts exactly, Laurie. She fit the stereotype for sure. Benic should interview an active escort in the $250-$400 range to see how things really are in the business as of now. It's not gloom and doom like most think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TouringGirlfriend View Post
    A 17 year old escort? Just wow.

    And she found her way into a drug habit? not right.

    Escorting is not for the weak. If you had a shopping habit you'll become even more addicted to the shopping. If you had a drug habit, you'll do even more powerful drugs. Some people get bored with the money and feel that they will feel better high on drugs. Most of the escorts I know are not like that. They are clean, independent women who get in this business, make their money and get out CLEAN and SOBER! I am 21 and got into this business at 19 year old. I was not into drugs before I got in so it would be stupid of me or anyone to get into the business and all the sudden start doing drugs because of the cash access. However, It happens and when it does, it gets ugly.

    Oh and if she was charging $100 an hour, it's pretty clear that there was nothing VIP about her. Why wouldn't she have 100 bidders for her services? Do you know what $100 is? That is no money for having sex with complete strangers and god knows what type of men she was sleeping with at $100 an hour. Any bum on the street can get access to $100. It is REALLY not a lot of money for escort services. She also advertised on craigslist which was a known directory for non VIP/Trashy girls.. so her experiences would be a lot different from ladies that market themselves as VIP and only cater to upscale clientele. It is sad that she found herself in that predicament. That is my 10 cents.
    Thanks for the thoughts. There's no doubt that her experiences would be different than other escorts. The drugs is definitely sad, but after reading her bio and learning more about her past it's understandable. Her mom was hooked on drugs and her mom was escorting as well...all while she was growing up. The whole charging $100 an hour was because she didn't know any better and that's what her mom charged so she did the same.

    If anything it's just example of how having role models can be very helpful or hurtful. Not all of us are so lucky...
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    Quote Originally Posted by benic View Post
    Thanks for the thoughts. There's no doubt that her experiences would be different than other escorts. The drugs is definitely sad, but after reading her bio and learning more about her past it's understandable. Her mom was hooked on drugs and her mom was escorting as well...all while she was growing up. The whole charging $100 an hour was because she didn't know any better and that's what her mom charged so she did the same.

    If anything it's just example of how having role models can be very helpful or hurtful. Not all of us are so lucky...
    You are right. Charity begins at home. If her mom was escorting/on drugs as well then she wasn't really setting a good example. Benic, I have NEVER met an escort on drugs. When I became an independent escort, I became good friends with a lot of escorts in my area. While there were some that had drinking problems, I never met one that was on drugs (not to the point that I could tell). In the past 3 days here on sw, We have had girls come here and say how they did not screen, how they did not know the legalities of escorting and did it anyway. Isn't that dangerous? The chances of you ending up dead not screening at all is very high. The chances of you getting arrested without screening is extremely high as well. I researched the business for 3 years before I even decided to work for an agency. It is not something you just jump into blind. Naive girls are getting into this business everyday. It is not for the Naive. To those ladies that want to escort themselves without research: I say DO NOT DO IT! Do cam, phone sex, whatever! You will make fast money but you may also find yourself in a bodybag sooner than later if you enter this business clueless!

    I don't blame "Ashley". I blame her mother for not protecting her and not setting a good example. If I am escorting myself, I want to make enough money to wear my daughter doesn't have to resort to prostituting herself. Anyone can be a mom but it takes a strong, emotionally stable woman to be a mother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    Im going to try to find time to finish watching the interview today but what I've seen so far is just sad. I find myself wishing you had chosen someone less stereotypical. The interview itself is well done, but - ugh.

    (Of course I guess it would be very very difficult to find a high end escort who would agree to be interviewed).

    I can't help but think she's not too bright to agree to have her face out there all over the net. Wonder how long it'll take for her to find herself in jail now?
    It definitely is sad...I've been reading her book and it's even crazier some of the stuff she's had to go through. I wasn't trying to find the "stereotypical" escort...you know the one addicted to drugs going nowhere fast. And while on the surface it may seem like it I think she's done well considering her situation...

    What I admire about her is she never complains about her situation. She owns up to it and faces it and doesn't make excuses. A lot of people wouldn't even admit to being hooked on drugs...let alone putting it out there that she's an escort as well!

    Hopefully you get to finish watching interview...would love to hear more from you guys...

    Oh yeah...if anyone can put me in contact with a high end escort...I'd love to interview them as well. I wouldn't mind doing with one of those blurry or in the shadows interviews that you see on TV
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    Quote Originally Posted by benic View Post
    Oh yeah...if anyone can put me in contact with a high end escort...I'd love to interview them as well. I wouldn't mind doing with one of those blurry or in the shadows interviews that you see on TV
    I would really like to see that, to balance out the picture.

    Maybe someone will see this post and contact you. I'd really be interested in watching that type of interview.

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    A few of my friends were in this documentary. I doubt they'll have time for a sit down right now though. Most of them are overseas. I know Lauren S. is currently in London.

    I'm a mid range escort and my experiences are nothing like "Ashley's". I'm up for a face to face interview and I will also share my work site with you/My preferred 411 ID/My date check ID. I just don't want the advertising/my real name posted/or anything like that. Oh and of course I will not fly to meet you without all expenses paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TouringGirlfriend View Post
    You are right. Charity begins at home. If her mom was escorting/on drugs as well then she wasn't really setting a good example. Benic, I have NEVER met an escort on drugs. When I became an independent escort, I became good friends with a lot of escorts in my area. While there were some that had drinking problems, I never met one that was on drugs (not to the point that I could tell). In the past 3 days here on sw, We have had girls come here and say how they did not screen, how they did not know the legalities of escorting and did it anyway. Isn't that dangerous? The chances of you ending up dead not screening at all is very high. The chances of you getting arrested without screening is extremely high as well. I researched the business for 3 years before I even decided to work for an agency. It is not something you just jump into blind. Naive girls are getting into this business everyday. It is not for the Naive. To those ladies that want to escort themselves without research: I say DO NOT DO IT! Do cam, phone sex, whatever! You will make fast money but you may also find yourself in a bodybag sooner than later if you enter this business clueless!

    I don't blame "Ashley". I blame her mother for not protecting her and not setting a good example. If I am escorting myself, I want to make enough money to wear my daughter doesn't have to resort to prostituting herself. Anyone can be a mom but it takes a strong, emotionally stable woman to be a mother.
    Yeah, i've been seeing those threads where girls have been asking questions about their escorting behavior. I think in anything that you do it's important to know what you are going to be getting yourself into...especially more so in the world of escorting.

    What's interesting is in the interview you'll learn that it's actually her Mom that got busted for prostitution (and actually her mom who fled Oregon since she had a warrant out for a drug arrest). Ashly never had issues...but she even says her mom was not that smart about it. Her mom was always taking new clients and basically taking anything that would come her way...I think when she got busted she said that the client wanted to meet up memorial weekend (which she thought was a red flag since wouldn't those people want to be with their families?).

    Again, I'll put the offer out there, if you or any of your escort friends would like to do an interview I'd be more than willing to accomodate....we can do audio only, obscure the face, etc... I think it'd be good to get some other perspectives...
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    Quote Originally Posted by benic View Post

    Again, I'll put the offer out there, if you or any of your escort friends would like to do an interview I'd be more than willing to accomodate....we can do audio only, obscure the face, etc... I think it'd be good to get some other perspectives...
    I would be willing. See my above post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TouringGirlfriend View Post
    The chances of you ending up dead not screening at all is very high. The chances of you getting arrested without screening is extremely high as well.
    I dispute the first point, 'very high'? I think the chances of you ending up dead as an escort are no higher than any other woman.

    A girl who walks the streets in the ghetto, sure, probably much higher. But as a more legit escort? I'm dubious because if a guy is going to kill you, why does he care if you screen him, or if he is a sociopath why couldn't he fake all the screening info?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoecamgirl View Post
    I dispute the first point, 'very high'? I think the chances of you ending up dead as an escort are no higher than any other woman.

    A girl who walks the streets in the ghetto, sure, probably much higher. But as a more legit escort? I'm dubious because if a guy is going to kill you, why does he care if you screen him, or if he is a sociopath why couldn't he fake all the screening info?
    Are you an escort? Clearly you are not. When you screen you can easily detect fake info. You should read more screening books. Like I said the chances are extremely high. I wouldn't tell a girl to go on a call and not screen. That is like playing with fire, you will for sure get burned. Any legit escorts knows screening is a must. Again, we screen to detect fake info.

    As an escort when a man give me his employment info I check google, the yellow pages, yp.com, I check to see how long the company has been in business. Of course anyone can give you a business card and say hi i do so and so but not with me.I verify all that information. Along with employment info, he will have to give me at least 3 provider references. The escort/hobbyist community is not a small one but everyone knows everyone. I will check to make sure his references are legit. Is the girl a verified provider, does she have reviews.. etc. I also ask the gent to send me a deposit if I am unsure of him, I doubt LE will send me $150-$300 to bust me. Trust me when it comes to escorting biz I know my stuff. He has a better chance at passing TSA screening than he has passing my screening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TouringGirlfriend View Post
    Are you an escort? Clearly you are not. When you screen you can easily detect fake info. You should read more screening books. Like I said the chances are extremely high. I wouldn't tell a girl to go on a call and not screen. That is like playing with fire, you will for sure get burned. Any legit escorts knows screening is a must. Again, we screen to detect fake info
    No, I am absolutely not an escort. I don't think I have the guts to do it, but one of my friends is and has been for like 3 years, so I know a little about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TouringGirlfriend View Post
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/26869953/

    A few of my friends were in this documentary. I doubt they'll have time for a sit down right now though. Most of them are overseas. I know Lauren S. is currently in London.

    I'm a mid range escort and my experiences are nothing like "Ashley's". I'm up for a face to face interview and I will also share my work site with you/My preferred 411 ID/My date check ID. I just don't want the advertising/my real name posted/or anything like that. Oh and of course I will not fly to meet you without all expenses paid.
    Thanks for sending the link and thanks for the the interview offer. I'll PM you and we can arrange the time...I've been our interviews via skype so no need for flying out and travel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoecamgirl View Post
    No, I am absolutely not an escort. I don't think I have the guts to do it, but one of my friends is and has been for like 3 years, so I know a little about it.
    Well I am an escort and have been one for sometime. Read my above post. An escort that does not screen is only asking for trouble. Remember there are both psychos and cops to worried about. I have been escorting for 2 years and have never been busted. Ladies that don't screen are more likely to be busted with 6 months to a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TouringGirlfriend View Post
    Well I am an escort and have been one for sometime. Read my above post. An escort that does not screen is only asking for trouble. Remember there are both psychos and cops to worried about. I have been escorting for 2 years and have never been busted. Ladies that don't screen are more likely to be busted with 6 months to a year.
    I'm not trying to argue with you or talk you out of it, I just don't really understand it. Like what guy would ever give an escort his personal information, that seems insane to me.

    Like one of my friends clients is one of the richest guys in our state and he has like 80 reviews he wrote on TER, so he's a rich, public guy who is incriminating himself on a website, that seems just as crazy, so who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoecamgirl View Post
    I'm not trying to argue with you or talk you out of it, I just don't really understand it. Like what guy would ever give an escort his personal information, that seems insane to me.
    We are having a conversation here and I hope you don't feel that I am arguing with you .. hugs.

    With sites like TER (and I am glad that YOU brought that up), you can read and see that men are willing to give EVERYTHING to see an escort. Just go to the newbie section and read it. Men give me their information daily. The only thing I don't know about them is their wife's /children's name and how much money they have in the bank. Most of my clients are VIP clients. It is all about the image the girl puts out there. I doubt any smart men will give their info to a girl that advertised on craigslist. They trust me with their information and I don't betray that trust. We have a lot of forums here. When a girl breaks that trust she is outed on the board and everyone knows the kind of person that she is. As I said before, any girl that escorts without getting the guy's information is only asking for trouble.

    Most of my clients are rich, have a lot going for them, post reviews on TER and BD under faux names. You really can't tell who's who unless you've seen them in person. There is some anonymity to it.

    Oh and my point was that: Hobbyists/Clients are men that are not happy with thier sex lives. They are willing to give everything so the girl feels safe. A hobbyist/client knows that if he does not give personal info that the girl will not see him. Now don't get me wrong, some men will NOT do it. However, those are the men that won't have the pleasure of spending time with me.

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    We are having a conversation here and I hope you don't feel that I am arguing with you .. hugs.

    With sites like TER (and I am glad that YOU brought that up), you can read and see that men are willing to give EVERYTHING to see an escort. Just go to the newbie section and read it. Men give me their information daily. The only thing I don't know about them is their wife's /children's name and how much money they have in the bank. Most of my clients are VIP clients. It is all about the image the girl puts out there. I doubt any smart men will give their info to a girl that advertised on craigslist. They trust me with their information and I don't betray that trust. We have a lot of forums here. When a girl breaks that trust she is outed on the board and everyone knows the kind of person that she is. As I said before, any girl that escorts without getting the guy's information is only asking for trouble.

    Most of my clients are rich, have a lot going for them, post reviews on TER and BD under faux names. You really can't tell who's who unless you've seen them in person. There is some anonymity to it.
    I didn't mean mean argue, I think we're on the same page.

    I really don't get men who are into escorts (no offense). I mean if you are decent looking and rich, just go get bottle service at a decent club and you can probably get laid as many times as you want for free. And then the guys who call themselves hobbiests? Like...wtf was that guy who posed as and escort and blogged? Real Princess Diaries, was it? Craziness.

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    I will check it out...


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    Quote Originally Posted by zoecamgirl View Post
    I didn't mean mean argue, I think we're on the same page.

    I really don't get men who are into escorts (no offense). I mean if you are decent looking and rich, just go get bottle service at a decent club and you can probably get laid as many times as you want for free. And then the guys who call themselves hobbiests? Like...wtf was that guy who posed as and escort and blogged? Real Princess Diaries, was it? Craziness.
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    Well the funny thing with Alexa is that when everyone said she was fake I was actually backing her. "She" gave me some good advice about escorting. What gave me the red flag about Alexa was when she told me that in order to charge $2000 an hour I would have to engage in Greek/Anal sex. Which is NOT true. There are girls that charge $1000 an hour and are CBJ or don't kiss so when she said that I knew only a MAN wouldn't tell me such BS.

    Now on your decent looking, rich man comment: The allure of escorts is that these men are married/have girlfriends but looking for some NSA fun. They do not want the girl to call them afterwards unless he says it's ok. They are paying you to leave. Most of these men are not casanovas they will not approach a pretty girl at the bar. They want to save themselves the embarrassment. I have been flown to exotic destinations to meet these men and typically they're usually in their late 40s (I don't see men under 35 years of age) and they are just... lonely. These men are loaded and leave by the motto: If it flies, floats or fucks.. rent it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TouringGirlfriend View Post
    Well the funny thing with Alexa is that when everyone said she was fake I was actually backing her.
    Curious, I first saw the site a few years ago, I guess and I called bullshit on it to my friend right away. At the time she was just getting into escorting and was mad cos she thought I was just being a downer, but I was sure the site was fake.

    But that said, I'm pretty much skeptical about like...everything?

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    Curious, I first saw the site a few years ago, I guess and I called bullshit on it to my friend right away. At the time she was just getting into escorting and was mad cos she thought I was just being a downer, but I was sure the site was fake.

    But that said, I'm pretty much skeptical about like...everything?
    Well your eyes are better than mine. I admired her for a long time. I looked at "her" and said "hey I want to do that!". The outing was a big disappointment for sure. I really thought she was legit. She gave so much good advice but then again I noticed it was advice she could have read from the internet. I asked to call her once and she wouldn't chat with me on the phone. That was red flag 2. There was something odd about her screening article. It was written like someone that didn't know what they were doing. One of the advices she gave was to write a letter to your family and coming explaining why you became an escort and leave it on your dresser when going off to an appointment. Any escort in their right mind wouldn't do that. She also said to put your thumbprint in the bathroom when doing an outcall in case anything was to happen.. sorry but why the hell would anyone do that?

    If a client passed out and died on me during an appointment from wild sex, I would not wait for the police to get there. I would call the police, tell them someone is hurt and RUN RUN RUN. WHy would I give my information to the police? That is basically what you are doing with a thumb print. How would I explain such to the police?

    Alexa went as detailed as telling her escort readers what to wear during a date.. well that is only common sense. A lot of her blogs clearly were written from a man's perspective. THere was a time when she said that barebacking was ok.. and it's not. So yes you can't believe everything you read on the net. I had access to the password protected areas of her site and I'll tell you right now.. the contents were a huge red flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TouringGirlfriend View Post
    Well your eyes are better than mine. I admired her for a long time. I looked at "her" and said "hey I want to do that!". The outing was a big disappointment for sure. I really thought she was legit. She gave so much good advice but then again I noticed it was advice she could have read from the internet. I asked to call her once and she wouldn't chat with me on the phone. That was red flag 2. There was something odd about her screening article. It was written like someone that didn't know what they were doing. One of the advices she gave was to write a letter to your family and coming explaining why you became an escort and leave it on your dresser when going off to an appointment. Any escort in their right mind wouldn't do that. She also said to put your thumbprint in the bathroom when doing an outcall in case anything was to happen.. sorry but why the hell would anyone do that?

    If a client passed out and died on me during an appointment from wild sex, I would not wait for the police to get there. I would call the police, tell them someone is hurt and RUN RUN RUN. WHy would I give my information to the police? That is basically what you are doing with a thumb print. How would I explain such to the police?

    Alexa went as detailed as telling her escort readers what to wear during a date.. well that is only common sense. A lot of her blogs clearly were written from a man's perspective. THere was a time when she said that barebacking was ok.. and it's not. So yes you can't believe everything you read on the net. I had access to the password protected areas of her site and I'll tell you right now.. the contents were a huge red flag.
    Wait.. I had heard about Real Princess Diaries...but I didn't hear that it turned out she was a fake? So she wasn't an escort at all? Just a writer? What was her angle?
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    Wait.. I had heard about Real Princess Diaries...but I didn't hear that it turned out she was a fake? So she wasn't an escort at all? Just a writer? What was her angle?
    Yes it was a sociopath/a pretender. A man by the name of Pat (could be spelling it wrong). See she had multiple sites and forgot to enable the whois privacy on one of them and all hell broke loose. The real Paul started to say that Alexa was someone he did website work for. It was a big mess but yes it turned out to be a fake. Alexa never existed. The messed up part about it all is that HE was sending real escorts to some of his referrals. They were under the impression that this was a real escort and not a fake. Sexworkers raised hell when it all broke loose.

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