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    how do you guys do this? I always tell people in my room to Google me, but how exactly do you bring them offsite without getting in trouble? I love Streamate's traffic so much I'm not willing to do something stupid and get kicked off.

    So if you want to be with me
    With these things there’s no telling
    We just have to wait and see
    But I’d rather be working for a paycheck
    Than waiting to win the lottery
    Besides maybe this time is different
    I mean I really think you like me

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    Every once in a while I just say google me, and they find my blog and other sites. Don't type anything, or you may get caught.
    Taking a break from all unproductive shit will prove to be the best choice you can make.

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    Helps if you have a twitter account under your same screen name, so you can just mention twitter (and let the smarter ones figure it out, lol). It SHOULD be ok if your not talking about other cam sites/skype shows, but as you said, a bit much to risk with them.

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    I have a twitter, if you google me I'm very easy to find - it's more that everyone seems content paying Streamate, I suppose because it's more convenient to have a virtual harem? I dunno....

    So if you want to be with me
    With these things there’s no telling
    We just have to wait and see
    But I’d rather be working for a paycheck
    Than waiting to win the lottery
    Besides maybe this time is different
    I mean I really think you like me

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    I saw Ember Reigns on SM giving out her website info, very blatantly.

    I thought that wasn't allowed...But I am guessing if she is giving it out and promoting it blatantly then it probably doesn't matter that much

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    Honestly.
    Before i actually cared about streamate
    I said my .com repeatability ,
    Had my banner on , performed with my husband
    without being approved ect , for about 8 months.
    Never got caught , BUT i stopped , Being streamate is my
    new favorite site, I prefer to keep them.
    Americanmade18 on most sites.

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    Ur lucky you got away with that buffy. I know a girl that is banned from sm for doing that.

    Quote Originally Posted by lilmisssunshine View Post
    I saw Ember Reigns on SM giving out her website info, very blatantly.

    I thought that wasn't allowed...But I am guessing if she is giving it out and promoting it blatantly then it probably doesn't matter that much
    Ember has always gotten away with stuff like that. She's a top earner so they let her. Im thinking streamate is like MFC where they let the top earners get away with stuff. I saw another model giving out her email address (Staci Chase). Thought that was kinda odd.

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    Yea but what is funny is that if a top earner like Ember Reigns gives out her info, she is more likely to steal traffic on masse.

    If we give out our rinky dink blog addresses,etc, we are but a drop of water in the ocean of SM.

    But we get banned...go figure.

    Anyway, I am guessing SM isn't watching it that closely. I would think that if you had a name on all the sites that is easy enough to google, you would be easily found by anyone looking.

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    hmmm...i have an idea...

    gonna research it and look it up...

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    Exactly! Sometimes I'll say "If you want to know more, google my name!" I doubt you can get in trouble for that. Sometimes I'm tempted to shoot my website link but it's not worth it I don't think. Back in the day I stole webcams.com's traffic and I would make a killing getting their members to buy my indy shows via yahoo. I was also suspended twice with them BUT they let me back after I begged LMFAO. The money is soooo much better when you steal the customers. LOL!

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    Sooo here is a question....when you steal them TG...are you charging the same per minute rate?

    I have been doing indy show out the ass and not even working big sites very much cuz I am pretty much bogged down with indy shows. Which I love....

    But on SM girls are charging 4 and 5 a min., whereas typical indy rates seem to be about 3 a min.

    Other problem with indy shows is that guys can pop on and off SM and get charged for every min they fuck around on SM.

    It seems like I will spend forever playing tech support when I am doing indy work cuz some guy has never used skype before, etc.

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    @dixievista I take it you use a different name on cams? Cuz I just googled dixievista and nothing came up!

    1. You are only going to get the boys off the site who feel comfortable with paying for shows
    off site. Girls are always talking about the security they get with using a site verses doing a
    show over MSN, YHO or SKYPE. But so far I have never read where a guy has got a models IP
    number from a MSN show and tracked her down. But I have read of where a guy has paid
    for a MSN show and the model didn't deliver.

    2. Not sure about SM but I know on some sites guys drop hints to their email and messenger
    contacts. Take notes pay attention to that...could be a chance for an offsite show. Also
    sometimes the hint is in the screen name.

    3. You may have to build your offsite clients well...offsite...For instance do what the affiliates do.
    They join various free dating sites post a few photos and their mailbox is full the next day.
    Everyday you would received 25 - 50 emails from each dating site you join...with the potential of
    finding a new customer. Trust me...it works for the affiliates it can work even better for you.

    If you are worried about someone seeing you on a dating site but um not SM well...hmm ok then
    make your dating profile location someplace else then where you are from.

    With the power of Facebook, Twitter and all the various dating sites...you should have offsite shows
    in no time.

    You have a choice either be reactive and wait till the member on SM tries to contact you or you can
    be proactive and market yourself making yourself accessible and humanizing yourself in the process.


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    Thanks wickedvid...the idea i was thinking of involved offsite marketing as well.

    I really think the best way to steal without losing your SM acct. is offsite marketing.

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    lol of course, dixievista is my forum alias!

    I'm all over facebook & twitter, the issue is getting guys to feel safe then I guess? it appears I'm doing everything right.....granted I'm still FRESH so I'm probably just being impatient..........

    So if you want to be with me
    With these things there’s no telling
    We just have to wait and see
    But I’d rather be working for a paycheck
    Than waiting to win the lottery
    Besides maybe this time is different
    I mean I really think you like me

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilmisssunshine View Post
    Sooo here is a question....when you steal them TG...are you charging the same per minute rate?

    I have been doing indy show out the ass and not even working big sites very much cuz I am pretty much bogged down with indy shows. Which I love....

    But on SM girls are charging 4 and 5 a min., whereas typical indy rates seem to be about 3 a min.

    Other problem with indy shows is that guys can pop on and off SM and get charged for every min they fuck around on SM.

    It seems like I will spend forever playing tech support when I am doing indy work cuz some guy has never used skype before, etc.
    The math...hmm lets see $4 or $5 a minute at 35% $2.6 or $3.25.
    Versus $3 a minute minus whatever fees you may have to collect the money.

    The factor for you would be if you are doing more Indy shows then you could do
    SM shows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilmisssunshine View Post
    Sooo here is a question....when you steal them TG...are you charging the same per minute rate?

    I have been doing indy show out the ass and not even working big sites very much cuz I am pretty much bogged down with indy shows. Which I love....

    But on SM girls are charging 4 and 5 a min., whereas typical indy rates seem to be about 3 a min.

    Other problem with indy shows is that guys can pop on and off SM and get charged for every min they fuck around on SM.

    It seems like I will spend forever playing tech support when I am doing indy work cuz some guy has never used skype before, etc.

    Actually it was rather interesting. The men were willing to sign up wherever I told them to for some reason. I processed most of my payments through ecampay (at the time) so this time around I'll be directing them to MGF since I'll be able to do the same day cash out.

    Now on the days I really wanted to make my goal FAST, I would usually entice them with a special like 30 minutes for $60. My per minute rate is $3 a minute so 30 minute is usually $90. The would EAT it up! We have to remember that time doesn't pay the bills, money does. I would get at least 5 custies to take me up on my offer and voila I made double my goal easy.

    Edit TO add: I would have different specials each day. My shower shows are very popular so they sold BIG time for $100 for 30 minutes/ $180 for an hour. I never discounted my shower shows. Food shows were always more..

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    Right...i like the number of shows I do as an indy and working indy doesn't drive me up the wall like streamate does with all the free chat.

    I personally feel we should get paid for free chat, it's freaking draining. And yes, there is some free chat involved with indy work, but no where near as draining. I don't feel like I have to be "on" and entertaining constantly.

    I have not used the SM encoder yet. Have downloaded it tho. Maybe give it go tonight.

    Cuz like I said, there is a lot of time wasted play tech support with indy guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TouringGirlfriend View Post
    Actually it was rather interesting. The men were willing to sign up wherever I told them to for some reason. I processed most of my payments through ecampay (at the time) so this time around I'll be directing them to MGF since I'll be able to do the same day cash out.

    Now on the days I really wanted to make my goal FAST, I would usually entice them with a special like 30 minutes for $60. My per minute rate is $3 a minute so 30 minute is usually $90. The would EAT it up! We have to remember that time doesn't pay the bills, money does. I would get at least 5 custies to take me up on my offer and voila I made double my goal easy.

    Edit TO add: I would have different specials each day. My shower shows are very popular so they sold BIG time for $100 for 30 minutes/ $180 for an hour. I never discounted my shower shows. Food shows were always more..
    I have been thinking about incorporating some specials into my indy shows. Free minutes, reduced rates, free vids, etc. to help move things along. I haven't tried that yet. The only times I have been using SM is when I literally have nothing to do, which seems to be almost never.

    Why MGF? Don't they only pay 65%? Why not xxxcambabes,camcontacts, or even wickvid here?

    I don't like MGF. Just a personal preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilmisssunshine View Post
    Right...i like the number of shows I do as an indy and working indy doesn't drive me up the wall like streamate does with all the free chat.

    I personally feel we should get paid for free chat, it's freaking draining. And yes, there is some free chat involved with indy work, but no where near as draining. I don't feel like I have to be "on" and entertaining constantly.

    I have not used the SM encoder yet. Have downloaded it tho. Maybe give it go tonight.

    Cuz like I said, there is a lot of time wasted play tech support with indy guys.
    I am going to test a solution next week that may work with Indy guys. I have
    ordered a bunch of 4th Gen Ipods for the girls at a studio here in Colombia.

    I have a list of over 20,000 iPhone and iPod users that I will be marketing to via
    my own SMS sytem. Along with accounts at FTFun.com. Using the iPod and iPhones means Zero configuration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilmisssunshine View Post
    I have been thinking about incorporating some specials into my indy shows. Free minutes, reduced rates, free vids, etc. to help move things along. I haven't tried that yet. The only times I have been using SM is when I literally have nothing to do, which seems to be almost never.

    Why MGF? Don't they only pay 65%? Why not xxxcambabes,camcontacts, or even wickvid here?

    I don't like MGF. Just a personal preference.
    MGF ONLY because of the same day payout with payoneer. XXXcambabes takes a month or a few weeks to pay (You see I can't remember I take their customers and send them elsewhere). IF Alertpay had their shit together and let me accept payment on my camsite, I'd rather use them because they take not even 5%. Wickvid, even though he's a member here and a very nice guy I havent' even looked at his site to see how fast he pays and what percentage. Camcontacts will not approve me but then I only applied once.

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    EDit: Too juicy for sw. lol!
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    Yea I would use alertpay if they would get their shit together.

    But you have made me realize that maybe should stop doing skype shows for the guys that come through my site and take them to another site. I am losing money while playing tech support and they are not getting charged by the minute. I haven't looked into wickivid either. (no offense wickvid

    But I might, I need something where the customer can sign up quickly and has an easy to use interface. I have been using the ccbill payment processor of another webmaster, which is fine, but I am doing skype shows and losing money by not having a digital timer that counts money and takes minutes that way.

    I think the reason I never checked into Wickvid was due to the free chat, and I don't wanna chat, I just wanna take customers in and out.

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    AHHHH TG....good post...I will have to try that on some of my sites with accts I don't care about like Livejasmin

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    But Wickvid, the guys would have to have the ipods...no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TouringGirlfriend View Post
    Wickvid, even though he's a member here and a very nice guy I havent' even looked at his site to see how fast he pays and what percentage. Camcontacts will not approve me but then I only applied once.
    Aww thank you TouringGirlfriend...

    Really I pay based on the models...and the amount...like when a girl work for the
    hourly pay...I usually pay the same day. For the % I pay every 2 weeks. Working on
    a weekly pay for that soon and then a daily pay soon after.

    Oh and I pay 55%
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