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    Default MFC shows being pirated

    hey girls
    i was browsing another site, when i came across a good piece of information..
    being pirated on MFC, and where you can find your videos.

    i don't work MFC, but i know a lot of you girls do. i thought that if we spread the word- atleast try to push for these videos being taken down!

    very interesting- and tells you where you can find your videos,
    big sites sited are:
    Sharpshooter forum's free adult portal
    New Camgirl thread on formxxxxx
    the blog of a Russian dude named WhisperXxxxx

    this is a big deal ladies.. these guys are posting hundreds, sometimes thousands in a day! RIDICULOUS..

    check it out
    http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com/i...showtopic=2808

    hugs

    "MFC is one of the most pirated sites. If you choose to work there its not a question of if you will be capped but when."
    MissJane, May 14th, 2010


    also, just noticed:
    guys take watermarks off easily when they steal and repost videos,
    even when you post a personal watermark.

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    Default Re: MFC shows being pirated

    I was wondering if posting a watermark over the video lets say in the middle on it, or maybe a scrolling watermark, nothing crazy, just enough to be seen and to see the show too.. would make a difference in thes public shows being recorded..... I see most MFC models who use watermark put it in a corner... im talking about a BIG ASS watermark in the middle of the screen....

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    God I tried putting a watermark on my streamate shows and no one would shut up about it. "You're going to get banned for this, that watermark is so distracting, blah blah blah"
    Yes, I'm real.

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    Default Re: MFC shows being pirated

    yeah- it says in the article that guys take it off right away.

    interesting too- i just read that there is a program that guys use to rip models off- meaning to hack into their private show and download the stream for free.

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    How site stream the video used to make grabbing a live stream easy, but most (if not all now) are secure from that form of recording. Screen capture can't be defeated, and I'm not sure what will happen with HTML 5 (mostly because we have not seen a lot of porn (cam or video) streaming to Apple products, but this is changing).

    Part of the issue with MFC is that so much happens in the open, not in a private session, so any 'ol Joe can grab video of a model and upload it. The other part is the culture of "capturing" that creates status and "coolness" among guys that get to feel important for wasting a few hours of their day.

    The fact that tube sites can get around 2257 requirements, but the cam sites where the video originates cant still boggles me! Also not sure why these hosting sites can't be brought down when they are charging for "faster access" ie making money from illegal uploads (and again, not having the required 2257 to go with them).

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    Default Re: MFC shows being pirated

    Quote Originally Posted by Slab4508 View Post
    The fact that tube sites can get around 2257 requirements, but the cam sites where the video originates cant still boggles me! Also not sure why these hosting sites can't be brought down when they are charging for "faster access" ie making money from illegal uploads (and again, not having the required 2257 to go with them).
    I agree, Im assuming they are not hosted on US servers? Even if not, I have some xxx content that I've bought licenses for and I have 2257 info on models from Canada, Russia, and South Africa (their ID, age consent form, etc)... and that info, and Ive had to fax back agreements or my license wasn't valid

    Maybe some prosecutor out there will take this under their wing - I know for porn there have been big roll outs that pornlaw and others have been involved in. It has to bleed into 'live porn' and webcam streams at some point b/c its clearly illegal to host porn content and not have information on the models appearing on your site. They may use the excuse that it is user submitted so they have no control though.

    On forums where they post download links... I doubt that will ever get reined in in a way that will make content producers happy - which is probably why some forums go SO overboard

    Its disgusting reading pirates justification of why they do it and form this huge culture around it.

    But, yea, I agree Slab





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    Quote Originally Posted by roast View Post
    They may use the excuse that it is user submitted so they have no control though.
    Oh, they have, but there is still no legal footing. technically, a model on cam is "user submitted" but 2257 is still required (Really? a video back-up of a live performance that no one is supposed to be recording/distributing in the first place?) and cam sites have legal claim of ownership (which keeps cam models from issuing dmca take-downs on their own). But, you also have sites like YouTube where an uploaded clip can be pulled, or never listed, if the audio track is found in the database of copyrighted works!


    Because the people that download illegal captures "were never going to pay for it" and cam site don't seem to be hurting, taking legal action on a larger scale requires a different apporach. Thing is, 2257 really doesn't work because you can't just send-off some kind of claim or report. See an image that is clearly child pornography, and the FBI/prosecutors will take action under "child pornography." See adult content being posted without 2257 complience... um... yeah, who the fuck cares! The FBI does a spot check, or used too, but even then your only in trouble for not having your records in order you'd still have some time to get things in order.

    And yes, being offshore means no FBI raid, and not being able to get them for tax evation.

    Wonder how they could be procecuted for black market/counterfeitting?

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    One solution (if you want a watermark) might be to have a sign *in your room* with your cam name on it. You can't strip that out. I mean, there's still other methods people have, but if your name is right behind you.... makes it a lot harder.
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    Ugggggggggg...

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    ugggggh indeed.
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    Default Re: MFC shows being pirated

    Hello. I am glad that some of you found this CGN post useful. It has been updated with new information.
    One note of caution - the names of the pirate forums mentioned in this post have all been redacted or altered to make it more difficult (indeed impossible) for passing web-surfers to find them with a simple Google search.
    If you want the urls of these active pirate boards just email me here and I will give them to you.
    UL
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    Last edited by Cyrano22; 06-01-2011 at 07:09 AM. Reason: typos again - sigh

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    I found my first video... It's sad case but it comes with the business I choose.
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    Default Re: MFC shows being pirated

    Kouture, If you can find them, then you can kill them fairly quickly - usually within 24 hours. Make sure to look for the screen-cap that usually accompanies most of the pirate video postsl
    Here's a thread on "Submitting DMCA Notices" that has instructions on submitting "abuse letters" for all of the major file sharing sites the pirates use.
    http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com/i...showtopic=1114 - pages 1, 2 and 4.
    Good luck
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    ^Just a heads up Kouture, usually DMCA notices should be prefaced with just a request as your DMCA notice includes your personal information. This particularly applies if the servers are not based in US, as DMCA is a US law.

    Usually webmasters will just remove it when you personally ask (there are a # of DMCA threads here as well, feel free to search as it includes info from models who have actually done them successfully) before submitting legal notices... this has been my experience as I've had to remove about 10-12 videos of mine thus far. A few remain unfortunately despite: 1. Friendly request, then 2. DMCA notices, then 3. A more threatening DMCA notice with mentioning lawyer on retainer (usually students who recent passed the bar and are interested in sexworker advocacy and offer their name for free), etc. Mostly b/c they are on forums where you have to 'earn' the privilege to see pirated files (privilege = posting enough on their forums usually) or are on personal servers of some of the posters. In those cases Ive contacted the domain host but some guys are crafty and the domains are hosted out of the US and by smaller companies that support pirating.

    People who heavily sell content (like myself) are more at risk for pirating unfortunately

    Some day Ill pursue them more heavily but those videos that remain don't get as many hits as, say, the one I had on Youtube (non-nude) that was there for 6months and had about 8,000 views (grrrr)

    Watching your website stats and putting up a google alert of your name can help (especially if you do fetish as your name is more likely to be posted) to find them. Its not fun but most of the time Ive gotten them removed. Its possible. Also sometimes customers of yours find your vids where your name isn't attached - and that helps also.

    I also have links to DMCA notices in my signature if you're interested





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    I wanted to add that linking girls to a notoriously unsupportive/condescending (including the mod, aka Cyrano, if you check his posts here) forum about camgirls within a super-supportive forum is unfortunate - particularly for newbs who are looking for affirming resources.

    Ill given CGN a nod since their DMCA pages are useful but I keep seeing it getting referred to in posts and requests for PMs "for more info" as if it is somehow parallel to SW's sense of support, information, and community. It isn't, it is largely for cam consumers (who largely do not pay $ to individual cam girls out of personal 'philosophies' but end up fueling the cam industry & 'paying' site owners with advertisements/clickthrus by visiting cam sites and forums about camming compulsively) and the mods who posts here are generally patronizing & entitled when interacting with actual cam models.

    CoolBreeze is a huge exception to this.

    I wanted to highlight that for those who are unfamiliar in case you go to other threads and are startled by what you see. AC is more affirming.





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    I wrote a long rant about MFC a while back here and went as far as to include it in my book:



    At this stage I think there are far better options than that network.

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