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    I have been wrkin at the same club for 4yrs, management&girls are like family, but when I dont make $ I get down on myself & hate my job. I feel I have potential to be a top earner but get down on myself when a guy would rather get a dance from a whore. What do I need to do/say to get them to buy dances from me with out being a whore. Im a good dancer, ppl tell me I look bitchy but others think it makes me look sexy... I have got to start making more money fot what I do! Please help!!

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    Congratulations...you figured out that making money at this job has nothing to do with how good a "dancer" you are...it has everything to do with how well you gain rapport with a customer and close a sale.

    What strategies are you currently using to gain rapport with the customers?
    This is a HUGE part of the sales process. What works for one customer (the one who tells you that you look "sexy") doesn't work for another customer (the one who tells you that you look "bitchy")

    So how do you tailor your conversation towards asking for a lap dance for each different guy?
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    Well it depends on the guy, I hate goin up to guys that dont tip me, I feel like if I wont tip me u womt get a dance. I usullay say hey whats up, how are u, have u been here before, where u from, are u havin a good time, would u lilke to go get a dance? Even if the convo is going good & smothly and he will say no im good right now... Then 5-10 mins later he get a dance w a girl I kno does xtra

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    OK, its time to change your strategy.
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    Default Re: Wants to be top earner, but has trouble following thru

    its seems to me your approach is very casual, you should be getting him excited from the moment you introduce yourself to keep his focus where it should be, wanting to see you naked/ get a dance. so maybe instead of hey whats up, turn it to hey sexy need some company?

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    Default Re: Wants to be top earner, but has trouble following thru

    you dont have to blatantly offer extras to get his mind going and get him excited to dance with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by AkaSavannah View Post
    I have been wrkin at the same club for 4yrs, management&girls are like family, but when I dont make $ I get down on myself & hate my job. I feel I have potential to be a top earner but get down on myself when a guy would rather get a dance from a whore. What do I need to do/say to get them to buy dances from me with out being a whore. Im a good dancer, ppl tell me I look bitchy but others think it makes me look sexy... I have got to start making more money fot what I do! Please help!!
    You and I = same boat. Thank you for the post. I am also coming up on 4 years and am feeling the EXACT same way. When I make $$$ I'm on top of the world, I feel great and my self esteem is rockin. When I have a bad week, I get really depressed, down on myself, and feel hopeless.

    I put alot of my self-worth into what I earn. It's just born and bred in me.

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    how do you sale to white trash? I have been dancing for a a long time. I still cant figure this one out!Every time I walk up to them they cringe..Sometimes lately that is all what is in the club.What do I do

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    Quote Originally Posted by AkaSavannah View Post
    Well it depends on the guy, I hate goin up to guys that dont tip me, I feel like if I wont tip me u womt get a dance. I usullay say hey whats up, how are u, have u been here before, where u from, are u havin a good time, would u lilke to go get a dance? Even if the convo is going good & smothly and he will say no im good right now... Then 5-10 mins later he get a dance w a girl I kno does xtra
    would you like to get a dance is way too easy to say no to.

    read thru hustle hut,... there are tons of threads on how to phrase a sales pitch for a dance that make it much more difficult for a customer to say no.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CherryBomb954 View Post

    I put alot of my self-worth into what I earn. It's just born and bred in me.

    Get rid of THAT!

    You are worth a million times more what some idiot will pay for attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rebecca1974 View Post
    how do you sale to white trash? I have been dancing for a a long time. I still cant figure this one out!Every time I walk up to them they cringe..Sometimes lately that is all what is in the club.What do I do
    First you gotta change how you see these customers. Your contempt will come through and kill your shot. You have to hang out with them and read their personalities on an individual basis. I'm a black chick working in the South and 50% of the dudes I see are Southern or redneck dudes. I still sell them because I watch for their personality and cater to it. If he's sassy--I'm sassy back. If he wants to get to know (sip and see type) then I hang out and share. And so on. I got a VIP on Monday from this ol' boy who swore he didn't have money (lies!) They've got money! So be patient and take your time and treat them respectfully (unless they like a little disprespectin' ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by CherryBomb954 View Post
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    I put alot of my self-worth into what I earn. It's just born and bred in me.
    ^^^This is a recipe for emotional instability, financial instability and low self worth. Start developing other parts of your daily life that affirm your worth. Whether you work to help others or develop your self respect or your artistic,athletic abilities, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AkaSavannah View Post
    Well it depends on the guy, I hate goin up to guys that dont tip me, I feel like if I wont tip me u womt get a dance. I usullay say hey whats up, how are u, have u been here before, where u from, are u havin a good time, would u lilke to go get a dance? Even if the convo is going good & smothly and he will say no im good right now... Then 5-10 mins later he get a dance w a girl I kno does xtra
    This is a mistake. I know it makes sense from our perspective, but I've seen a good number of posts on the blue side to the effect of "I don't like to tip at the stage because I feel weird/self-concious/too pervy/whatever reason". I know, this is a weird mindset for a SC, but there you have it. Often, these guys are watching your stage show and are interested, but are waiting for you to come over so they can tip you and/or buy a dance.

    A lot of dancers will ignore guys who are sitting at a table and not stage tipping, bit in my experience I've found that some of these guys end up being big spenders. Sometimes it's hard to tell the real cheapskates from the guys who want to spend their $$ on VIP instead of the stage shows, so your best bet is to approach them all.
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    ^^^^
    Great advice; will totally use this!
    "Strippers are like pet tigers. They are nice to look at but they are not for everyone."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist View Post
    First you gotta change how you see these customers. Your contempt will come through and kill your shot. You have to hang out with them and read their personalities on an individual basis.
    So true! Like women, men are individual and unique. You have to find what turns him on. Maybe he likes the sexy come hither look, maybe he wants a big schoolgirl smile, maybe he just wants a woman who will be interested in him and appreciate him. The path to VIP begins and ends with whether or not 'you' (or the you you are pretending to be ) is what he is looking for.

    The 5 basic questions are a great way to start but you want to expand on them. If he's not from my town, no matter where in BFE he lives I would get all excited and say, "Cool! What are the clubs like there?" This is a great way to open up a lap dance discussion.

    The bottom line is to remain open-minded about who you are sitting with. If he's there for a bj there is nothing you can do about it. But, either way, don't sell your short. Not every guy is looking for 'extras', but every guy IS looking for something; and you have to make sure you are that something.

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    Default Re: Wants to be top earner, but has trouble following thru

    Sorry why are you worried about what other girls do for money? Almost guaranteed they are not charging what they should be.

    So face facts that you are not their type of dancer and they are not your type of customer.

    The only thing that can be done is for a majority of the girls to say something to the management and they need to handle it.




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