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    So I knew it would inevitably happen at some point. Up until now I have been extremely lucky enough to never have a guy request incest roleplay, and I was hoping I never would! I got some guy from the Mediterranean yesterday who told me he was 60 years old and wanted to do that. But the thing that really really bothered me was that he started asking questions about my actual real father *Barf* So instead of cursing this guy out and calling him out on being the sick, twisted bastard that he apparently is, I lied to him. I told him that my dad died when I was in my mother's womb in a jet crash so I never got to meet him, and I started to sniffle and look really pitiful. And it worked!! LOL! He started apologizing profusely and saying how awful he felt, and he gave me a tip. Then we had a 37 minute NORMAL private. Ahh I'm so glad I dodged that bullet! Incest is just digusting, I honestly can't see how anyone who isn't fucked up in the head wouldn't find that wrong and nauseating.

    From now on, if any other guys ask that I will try to "convert" them by either telling my pity story or convincing them to pretend to be my "Stepdad" instead. That way I won't lose out on any $$$ (and these guys are usually willing to spend quite a bit because they get turned down a lot), but I still won't have to engage in that gross fetish.

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    Reminds me of the $100+ private I had on AW on my second day where this guy broke down and told me he was molesting his daughter and didn't know what to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goreantx View Post
    Reminds me of the $100+ private I had on AW on my second day where this guy broke down and told me he was molesting his daughter and didn't know what to do.

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    Oh My God... PLEASE tell me you reported this sick man and got him arrested.

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    Angel, you handled that so very well! I am so going to have to remember that.
    Anytime I get someone come into my room "Hey baby, what's your favorite role play?" I tend to say I like being the naughty babysitter. What's your favorite role play? This opens the door before we go private to discuss incest. I inform the gent that I don't do those shows. But good luck to him! I try not to be too judgemental of any fetish or request, but I draw the line at certain things. Incest/Under age being number one! It's wrong, and anyone doing things like that has a special place in hell as Satan's GF!!!!!!

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    It isn't easy for most people to explore or even understand their own sexual... desires, and while it might be hard for a guy to tell his wife that he wants to do her the naughty way, ya know, *shhh* "in the pooper," it is a lot easier to talk about it with a woman that can't actually hurt him in real life, and is also not likely to reject him or his ideas (because she is on cam and he is paying her).

    Having said that, the line between odd fantasy and confession is rather thin. Sharing an idea is not the same as acting on it but it should still feel like just that, an idea. Wanting to have a sexual encounter with a co-worker seems ok to most people, but wanting that with an ADULT member of the family feels creepy (even if it just points to a lack of socialization and maturity).

    For a guy to talk about actually doing something with a minor, in his family or not, is cleary more than asking a model to dress-up like a school girl or wanting to be called daddy. Yes, the whole "daddy" thing is uncomfortably acceptable as humor these days, but I see it as an "acting-upward" event. It's how the guy wants to be treated, how he needs to feel (ugh, or the whole needed to feel loved which means cam models should have minors in psychology, lol). When the focus is on the child, it becomes an "acting-down" event where the focus is on doing, not receiving. Not only should these chats be reported, but cam sites should have a clear policy on how to respond to such reports.

    Are cam sites, or even the models, liable if a guy actually is harming a child? It seems like any report of molestation is followed with details on lots of child porn material being recovered, but never a mention of the guy visiting a cam site. If I had to guess, I'd say there were two types: the really sick ones that are acting-out and suffer from obsessive behavior (which a lifetime in jail wouldn't cure...), and the ones that are trying to fill a need in their life by taking advantage of children and would likely feel remorse and shame later on. Ugh... I'm thinking out loud, so forgive me, but this second group might be split even further between the ones that are so fearful of being caught they don't continue doing it, and the ones that WILL continue to do it because they feel there is nothing left to lose.

    Not sure where I was going with any of this, but regardless of what a guys motives are, if they talk about it as an act that has happened, or will happen, it's something law enforcement and a prosecutor can act on, and the model and cam site need to be reporting that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goreantx View Post
    Reminds me of the $100+ private I had on AW on my second day where this guy broke down and told me he was molesting his daughter and didn't know what to do.

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    funny my ex (who was thirty and i was eighteen), wanted to play a "game" with me where i was sixteen..so creepy! he says he doesn't remember but i remember the exact expression on his face.so glad i'm not with him anymore.i like role playing like teacher student or like businessman and secretary.=]

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    I used to hear about that shit all the time when I worked in a phone sex call center. Instead of hanging up, we had to keep the conversation from going in that direction. Somehow I managed to do it, and very well. But, this one guy nearly had me in tears by all the messed up shit he was saying, so I let someone else take over. Whether what he was saying was real or fantasy, it was still very sick. I guess things like that kinda lead me to quitting the call center. I dreaded the phone ringing after a while. I have no problem doing phone sex again, just on my own terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busygirl View Post
    Omg, i get so many requests like this i started to think this is the norm. I'm baby faced and very young looking it must have something to do with that also. Even members who don't have daddy fetish say sometimes that they feel like that, because i look so young is weird for them to be attracted to me.
    Same. I try to steer them away from the underage thing by just not mentioning age etc, but they seem obsessed with knowing the EXACT age I will play. I usually say 18 (if forced), and then they leave lol.

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    I don't think it's THAT big of a deal honestly. I don't do it on Streamate because it's against the rules, but I will on AW. Fortunately I don't get too many underage/incest shows anymore so I don't really have to worry about it. But I really don't mind pretending to be 14-17 or whatever. Ever since I read 'Lolita' in high school, it's always been a bit of a fantasy of mine.

    Of course in real life it's gross, but purely as fantasy it can be fun (for me anyway). But I definitely prefer to do a private without mentioning an exact age if I can get away with it. And I'll refuse if the guy wants me to be really young.

    As for incest, I don't really mind if it's in the step-family category. Blood family is another matter though and I'll usually refuse. Especially brother-sister because I always end up thinking about my REAL brother and then I want to puke, ugh.

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    Touchy subject...

    No I didn't report the guy. Sorry From what he told me it was as much her fault as his weakness and inability to maintain boundaries, that and she was almost of age
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    ^^
    A man told you that he was molesting his daughter and you didn't report him did I miss something?? The fact that she was ALMOST of age means she is still a minor. Okay I'm going to shut myself up before this gets ugly

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    Quote Originally Posted by That"MODEL"Chick View Post
    ^^
    A man told you that he was molesting his daughter and you didn't report him did I miss something?? The fact that she was ALMOST of age means she is still a minor. Okay I'm going to shut myself up before this gets ugly
    I think I've just gotten a little too used to sexually fucked up people. I understand where you guys are coming from.
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    Well goodness,don't think I could ever get used to people like that!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by That"MODEL"Chick View Post
    Well goodness,don't think I could ever get used to people like that!!
    I was born to run into them it seems!
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    Honestly, I don't believe ANYTHING guys tell me in private shows. They are full of bullshit and most of the time they're just playing out their fantasy. If I got a private like that one goreantx, I probably wouldn't report it either.

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    Ugh, yeah, we all have our boundaries.

    I'm cool with incest play as long as it's just about a power differential and not about actual incest.

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    Incest guys are SO funny to me.
    Idk. Maybe I'm just sicker than everyone here... but it doesn't bother me at all. I spend the whole time laughing my ass off inside when I get one at the club.
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    ^ I definitely don't have any daddy issues, but I actually think it can be kinda sexy. Again, it's 100% a power thing for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slab4508 View Post
    It isn't easy for most people to explore or even understand their own sexual... desires, and while it might be hard for a guy to tell his wife that he wants to do her the naughty way, ya know, *shhh* "in the pooper," it is a lot easier to talk about it with a woman that can't actually hurt him in real life, and is also not likely to reject him or his ideas (because she is on cam and he is paying her).

    Having said that, the line between odd fantasy and confession is rather thin. Sharing an idea is not the same as acting on it but it should still feel like just that, an idea. Wanting to have a sexual encounter with a co-worker seems ok to most people, but wanting that with an ADULT member of the family feels creepy (even if it just points to a lack of socialization and maturity).

    For a guy to talk about actually doing something with a minor, in his family or not, is cleary more than asking a model to dress-up like a school girl or wanting to be called daddy. Yes, the whole "daddy" thing is uncomfortably acceptable as humor these days, but I see it as an "acting-upward" event. It's how the guy wants to be treated, how he needs to feel (ugh, or the whole needed to feel loved which means cam models should have minors in psychology, lol). When the focus is on the child, it becomes an "acting-down" event where the focus is on doing, not receiving. Not only should these chats be reported, but cam sites should have a clear policy on how to respond to such reports.

    Are cam sites, or even the models, liable if a guy actually is harming a child? It seems like any report of molestation is followed with details on lots of child porn material being recovered, but never a mention of the guy visiting a cam site. If I had to guess, I'd say there were two types: the really sick ones that are acting-out and suffer from obsessive behavior (which a lifetime in jail wouldn't cure...), and the ones that are trying to fill a need in their life by taking advantage of children and would likely feel remorse and shame later on. Ugh... I'm thinking out loud, so forgive me, but this second group might be split even further between the ones that are so fearful of being caught they don't continue doing it, and the ones that WILL continue to do it because they feel there is nothing left to lose.

    Not sure where I was going with any of this, but regardless of what a guys motives are, if they talk about it as an act that has happened, or will happen, it's something law enforcement and a prosecutor can act on, and the model and cam site need to be reporting that.
    Why does this even matter? What about liability to humankind and basic, instinctual ethics? Even if I wasn't "technically" held accountable as a camgirl if a customer revealed this type of information to me, I would report it in a heartbeat, even if I wasn't sure whether or not he was telling the truth. I don't care about all the formalities, and technicalities, protecting vulnerable, helpless children is something I feel VERY strongly about and molestation and abuse of any form is NOT ok. I'm seriously crying right now just at the thought of some sick monster taking advantage of that poor child. I encourage ALL of you, to PLEASE report something like that if a customer ever shares anything like that with you. People like him need to be put in JAIL. Period. I have a very special place in my heart for children and there is nothing in the world that gets me more riled up or angry then when I hear about children being mistreated.

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    ^ I totally hear that. However, it's still a legitimate question. I mean when you actually hear about stuff like that, it's hard to know if the person is serious. And even having that glimmer of doubt makes you second guess whether or not you should do something about it. And even if you decide to do something, what do you actually do? Report them? Call the police? It doesn't seem like much can actually be done to help. The most that can be done realistically is to just have a 0 tolerance policy about actual confessions of that sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goreantx View Post
    Touchy subject...

    No I didn't report the guy. Sorry From what he told me it was as much her fault as his weakness and inability to maintain boundaries, that and she was almost of age
    Um, have you ever heard of manipulation before? A lot of the perverted psychos who engage in this sort of behavior are masters at manipulation of other people, and are crafty at making people feel sorry for them and shifting the blame. A lot of rapists do this and a lot of victims of rape feel like they are the ones at fault. Poor girl, he has probably brainwashed her into believing the exact same bullshit that he fed you. It's a mind game, and it's dangerous and destructive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    ^ I totally hear that. However, it's still a legitimate question. I mean when you actually hear about stuff like that, it's hard to know if the person is serious. And even having that glimmer of doubt makes you second guess whether or not you should do something about it. And even if you decide to do something, what do you actually do? Report them? Call the police? It doesn't seem like much can actually be done to help. The most that can be done realistically is to just have a 0 tolerance policy about actual confessions of that sort.
    most shows are recorded, so i don't think it would really be THAT hard to report it and request an investigation.if he is participating in that type of activity in real life, it's not too unrealistic to hypothesize that he has looked at underage porn or incest porn, which is just as illegal here in the states. obviously if the guy is a paying customer, the website has SOME sort of information about him, including credit card info (or at least indirect access to it). i think it would be worth a try. i would never be able to live with myself if i didn't at least try. i'm going to do some more research though on this and what adult workers can do if we come across confessions like this, because it needs to be stopped. i can't make anyone else do this but i feel a personal need to speak up for those who can't speak up for themselves.

    As for the doubt, if you hear a fire alarm, do you still exit the building, or do you wait to see flames first? If you overheard a guy in the parking lot at your job threatening to bomb the building, would you just assume he is
    blowing off steam, or would you notify someone? Most people report when in doubt about situations that directly affect them, so why would this be any different?

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    ^ True dat girl.

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