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    Question Should I bother correcting a dancer who always sells at the stage?

    There's one girl I work with who for some reason thinks it's okay to loudly approach customers who are sitting at the stage, and try to drag them away from the stage to go do lap dances. She doesn't seem to be drunk or high or unaware of her surroundings; she just seems to be a fairly new dancer who hasn't learned basic strip club etiquette yet. She seems to like me and might accept advice from me, but I don't want to start some snarky dramafest if I hurt her feelings too much. I've heard other dancers grumble about her behavior but I don't think anyone has talked to her about it. Do I have anything to gain by approaching her about this?

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    Default Re: Should I bother correcting a dancer who always sells at the stage?

    Bring it up to a manager and have them do it. Make them be the "bad guy," even though it is their job to school new dancers on your current club's etiquette. In Vegas, like at the Rhino, this is annoying but totally allowed. In LA girls will rip your head off if you do this. It depends.


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    Default Re: Should I bother correcting a dancer who always sells at the stage?

    As a fairly new dancer myself, I think it's a good idea someone gives her a breakdown (politely) of stripper etiquette. I was fortunate enough to have someone warn me about the exact thing you're complaining about, and I was very happy she told me because I had no clue. Hopefully she'll appreciate it and won't take it personally. Sometimes it seems like it should be common sense, but for some reason it never crossed my mind...when I was brand-spanking new, I knew nothing about strip club anything. However, if she continues to do so after wards, then I don't see why one wouldn't speak up on it a bit more harshly. I've seen girls on stage kick girls in the face for doing that.

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    Default Re: Should I bother correcting a dancer who always sells at the stage?

    I would and I have. I just say politely... "I dont know if you are aware of the rules here but you are not supposed to approach customers sitting on the stage, unless they specifically asked you to come get them after your stage set. Its not fair for the girls who are on the stage trying to make money." Ive never had a rude response back, usually they just didnt know. I dont like dobbing in other people, something like that is easy enough to deal with myself.

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    Default Re: Should I bother correcting a dancer who always sells at the stage?

    Here in Jersey, 90% of the customers sit by the stage, so you really have no choice but to hustle them while they're sitting there. Of course, I wait until the dancer on stage finishes her little "dollar" dance routine in front the guy..but it seems a little odd to me that you absolutely can't hustle anybody who's sitting by the stage. But I agree with the other girls, if it's really a problem, take her aside and tell her POLITELY. No need to be harsh with someone who doesn't know the ropes yet.
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    Default Re: Should I bother correcting a dancer who always sells at the stage?

    If it's considered common courtesy in your club not to hustle customers who are sitting at the stage, I would tell her politely. Maybe she genuinely doesn't know and will be apologetic - but also be prepared for her to think that everyone's fair game and just keep doing what she's doing. Just be sure to word it in a very non-judgmental way, like "I know you're new here so I don't think you realize this is inappropriate, but..."

    I wish I could school girls at my club on this. This just always seemed like common sense me, even when I was new. Like, duh - they're sitting at the stage to tip the dancer onstage. Why would you try to drag them away? I honestly consider it rude to the customer as well, since I wouldn't think you'd sit at the stage watching someone if you wanted to be pestered to buy a dance from someone else. The only time I've ever taken someone from the stage is if they asked me to come get them, and I always make sure they tip the current dancer first. Unfortunately, I seem to be the only girl at my club who follows this line of etiquette. I kinda just want to say "fuck it" and start hustling at the stage too - it's not like anyone could bitch at me for it since they all do it too... but I just don't want to lower my own standards for behavior...

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    Default Re: Should I bother correcting a dancer who always sells at the stage?

    are you down south? i don't know what it is about the south that turns people into dirty hustlers but i worked with a dancer who pulled this shit ALL THE TIME. it is such a rude rude rude thing to do to distract customers sitting at the stage and if you do this, not only will i dirty hustle the fuck out of you, i will do it in the most menacing way that you won't want to come to work anymore. fuck with my money, no ma'am, not in this house.

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    Default Re: Should I bother correcting a dancer who always sells at the stage?

    I vote to tell the manager. If the manager enforces this policy then it's legit, if not then they are fair game. I couldn't give a rat's ass about worrying over stage tips. Dances are all that matter and I think unless posted every customer is fair game and you should already be doing what she does. I'll never understand that mentality. If he still wants to tip a few bucks he will but that won't break you like missing potential dances. It's nothing to cry over.
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    Default Re: Should I bother correcting a dancer who always sells at the stage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist View Post
    I vote to tell the manager. If the manager enforces this policy then it's legit, if not then they are fair game. I couldn't give a rat's ass about worrying over stage tips. Dances are all that matter and I think unless posted every customer is fair game and you should already be doing what she does. I'll never understand that mentality. If he still wants to tip a few bucks he will but that won't break you like missing potential dances. It's nothing to cry over.
    I agree that in most situations, the couple bucks from this customer isn't going to break you, but 1) it's still irritating to have a guy walk away from your stage set right before you get to dance for him, or to go down and practically have to yell for attention because some other dancer is right up in his lap while he's still at the stage with his tip money in front of him (it could also dissuade other guys from coming to the stage if they see someone walk away from you without tipping) and 2) this could be causing you to miss a potential dance. I've sold dances to many customers by flirting with them at the tiprail and asking if they want me to find them later for a dance. I feel if these girls want stage guys, they should do their hustling during their own sets. When I'm onstage, those are my only potential customers to sell to. But they're on the floor, where they have plenty of other options available. Why take guys from my limited pool?

    I still believe that if a guy is sitting at the stage, he's probably interested in THAT dancer. Why would another dancer want to eff up her potential sale by swooping in and getting in that guy's face? There's almost always plenty of other guys sitting around in the crowd. Taking guys from the stage, unless specifically asked to, is usually just unnecessary. That's why I think it's rude.
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    Default Re: Should I bother correcting a dancer who always sells at the stage?

    This is considered bad etiquette in most clubs, however you are not responsible for her, & correcting such issues is not part of your job. If you have an issue report it to the manager to deal with. Besides, the manager should always be the "go to" person for issues, that way if others are encountering similar issues one person is hearing them all & can best figure out how to resolve them.
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    Default Re: Should I bother correcting a dancer who always sells at the stage?

    depends on the club.. at my main club it seems that a lot of girls do this. i dont fuck with the customers at the stage except as a last resort... and when i do i cap myself to a very quick and not pushy sale and try to help the girl on stage if possible (i.e. last night sold a dance to a guy at the stage and got him to buy a dance for his buddy from the girl who was on stage when i sold the dance immediately after) and i dont really lose sleep from it because the girls at my club do this already and when on stage they often do not demand that the customers tip.

    but if its not the norm in your club to avoid stage side customers then thats bad. i would recommend making her feel very awkward while hustling. i would go over to whatever customer she chosees, do a move that involves loudly slamming your shoes on the floor in front of the guy she is hustling, and do a move that involves your boobs in said customers face while glaring at her. get the other girls to do this too... she will feel awkward enough that she will stop at some pt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by camille27 View Post
    are you down south? i don't know what it is about the south that turns people into dirty hustlers but i worked with a dancer who pulled this shit ALL THE TIME. it is such a rude rude rude thing to do to distract customers sitting at the stage and if you do this, not only will i dirty hustle the fuck out of you, i will do it in the most menacing way that you won't want to come to work anymore. fuck with my money, no ma'am, not in this house.
    well considering that this is not bad form "down south" i will have to say for us it's not being a dirty hustler it's normal here. I've never worked in a club that you couldn't approach the stage for dances. so you might want to think about that before you "dirty hustle" someone back.
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    Default Re: Should I bother correcting a dancer who always sells at the stage?

    i was actually thinking of florida in particular, and yes, south florida has the worst dirty hustling i've ever seen. but south florida always has the worst of a lot of things that i've seen in strip clubs.

    but knowing that so many dancers think this is acceptable, i'm starting to understand all of the "why are the dancers at my club so mean to me" threads.

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    Default Re: Should I bother correcting a dancer who always sells at the stage?

    Well since I've never worked in South Florida I don't know what the custom is there but the rest of the state approaching at the stage is allowed and expected. Same when I worked in Memphis years ago.
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    Default Re: Should I bother correcting a dancer who always sells at the stage?

    This is an absolute no-no in every club I've ever worked at. Dancers use stage time to collect tips, sell themselves and line up dances for when they get back on the floor.

    If I saw someone selling dances around the tip rail it I'd absolutely correct them, either face to face or via management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dance View Post
    Is it just me? Or isn't the point of working in a club to make money? And to make money... dancers sell dances. So it would seem logical to me that if there is a customer sitting alone, he's fair game to approach to try and sell dances to, regardless of what area of the club he chooses to sit in.
    I agree with you. If a customer is sitting by the stage and tipping me well, with no other girl coming up to him, damn right will I try to hustle him. Men like this obviously seem interested especially if they come over to the stage from the bar to watch my show. I've done this plenty of times and closed sales on the spot. Were independent contractors, and unless it's a rule set by management, etiquette regarding this flies out my window.
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    Default Re: Should I bother correcting a dancer who always sells at the stage?

    Some newbies like to hit the ground running instead of taking time to observe. Since the girl has no animosity towards you, it wouldn't hurt to tell her yourself in a kind way. Involving management seems a little extreme, unless you think the manager could tell her in a nicer way than you can.

    About hustling at the stage: obviously in a club where girls make a lot of money on stage it would be frowned upon. If I'm on stage dancing for a customer and a girl approaches I would like her to at least encourage him to tip me once before they leave. If they don't, no big deal I won't miss the dollar bill and my ego is never involved in the job.

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