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    Default Small club/Slow season Blues

    I just can't bring myself to go into work lately... I go in on most of my regular "scheduled" days and every once in awhile, if I really need the money, I'll drag myself in on a night off if I get enough people to yell at me to do it... but it's getting harder and harder each week... I dread going to work lately because I haven't been making much money. Last week I did really well and was making the kind of money I made when I started and I tried to get that to motivate me and remind me that a night can be really good... but those were out of the norm for what's going on lately.

    I know it's slow everywhere... but my club is already small on top of being slow. Half the time, there will be 10 customers in there and 8 of them will be regulars who everyone knows barely tip, let alone buy dances. I really should be going in more to make up for the low income lately, but I just get sick thinking of going into work when I worry that I may only walk out with 60 bucks... it's just not worth it lately. I need the money, no matter how little it is each night - but it's so frustrating and I just don't even want to deal with it. I'm sure I can't be the only one.

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    Default Re: Small club/Slow season Blues

    You might want to find a friend who wants to travel. Even though it is slow everywhere still from the recession, that doesn't mean there isn't still money to be made. When I travel outside of where I live I can easily double or triple my earning potential, & I am more focused on it because I work a series of days in a row. Even after the expenses (which are tax deductible for the most part), I still come out making more than I would in my home region.
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    You have work anxiety. It happens to me too sometimes. I thought I just didn't want to go in because I was tired or worried or whatever. Then I realized only on certain shifts or days was I negative and realized I have anxiety about working with a particular manager. I completely changed my schedule so that I don't have to deal with this person a lot and am much happier for it. It's also very hard to be positive when you go in and it's really dead. Last nite I only talked to 4 differents sets of customers and did well for a shitty sunday nite. I never got off the floor once I got there though and I just paid attention to who was looking at me. There is always money on the floor you just have to figure out how you're going to be the one to get it. Tell yourself on the way to work that you're gonna do well. Repeat. Repeat. Tell yourself again as you are hitting the floor. Repeat. Keep telling yourself until you start making it happen.
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    Default Re: Small club/Slow season Blues

    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    You might want to find a friend who wants to travel. Even though it is slow everywhere still from the recession, that doesn't mean there isn't still money to be made. When I travel outside of where I live I can easily double or triple my earning potential, & I am more focused on it because I work a series of days in a row. Even after the expenses (which are tax deductible for the most part), I still come out making more than I would in my home region.
    I've seriously been contemplating traveling lately. But, like you said, I'd like to have a friend with me. I'm friendly with, but not really "friends," with any of the girls at my club. Even if I was, I doubt any of them want to travel. Most of the girls I work with are moms or college students who would want to stay in the area. But I may start looking more into it... possibly work up the nerve to do it on my own.

    But I've never travel-danced. Can you basically just call up any club and ask if they allow visiting dancers? I guess I find the concept odd/intriguing since we've never had out-of-town dancers stop in at our club, but do most clubs welcome this?

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    You have work anxiety. It happens to me too sometimes. I thought I just didn't want to go in because I was tired or worried or whatever. Then I realized only on certain shifts or days was I negative and realized I have anxiety about working with a particular manager. I completely changed my schedule so that I don't have to deal with this person a lot and am much happier for it. It's also very hard to be positive when you go in and it's really dead. Last nite I only talked to 4 differents sets of customers and did well for a shitty sunday nite. I never got off the floor once I got there though and I just paid attention to who was looking at me. There is always money on the floor you just have to figure out how you're going to be the one to get it. Tell yourself on the way to work that you're gonna do well. Repeat. Repeat. Tell yourself again as you are hitting the floor. Repeat. Keep telling yourself until you start making it happen.
    You're also right about the anxiety. I hate working with one of the DJs. The only problem is that he works 5 nights a week. I almost always make sure to make the shifts with the DJ I like and avoid nights with the bartender I don't like... but I can only avoid them so much before I'm down to 2 nights a week when I can relax. I try to suck it up and ignore my personal dislikes... I should just keep reminding myself it's about the money. I love being the girl who's quietly counting her hundreds while everyone else is bitching about how horrible the night was... but I hate being one of the girls who whines while someone else is going on and about their awesome night. I know I can't be the superstar every night but it's just so discouraging... ugh

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    Default Re: Small club/Slow season Blues

    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora_Sunset View Post
    I've seriously been contemplating traveling lately. But, like you said, I'd like to have a friend with me. I'm friendly with, but not really "friends," with any of the girls at my club. Even if I was, I doubt any of them want to travel. Most of the girls I work with are moms or college students who would want to stay in the area. But I may start looking more into it... possibly work up the nerve to do it on my own.

    But I've never travel-danced. Can you basically just call up any club and ask if they allow visiting dancers? I guess I find the concept odd/intriguing since we've never had out-of-town dancers stop in at our club, but do most clubs welcome this?

    You might want to look for other entertainers here on SW that live near you & would want to travel. Meet up for coffee, hang out & get to know each other. If you get along, then figure out a work trip.

    As for booking at clubs, some clubs welcome it & some don't. Look at a map, figure out where you want to go, see what other entertainers say about the club (take everything with a grain of salt), then call the clubs to see if they take travelers, & what their process is.
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    Default Re: Small club/Slow season Blues

    It's very slow here as well, and it's hard to go in not being guaranteed a certain amout. It blows. But not I have a good friend of mine working at the club with me, and knowing she's there helps with motivation.

    Maybe you could get a close friend that you could look forward to seeing as well?

    Oh, and on the travelling bit. Even if you don't make a shit-ton of money while travelling, the break from the normal is always great and it's kinda like a little vacation. For me, when I travel, it's not all about the money but also the fun and experiences you can have. It helps with boredom and apathy.
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    Travel alone if you have to. It's great. You will be focused on making money and a change of scenery may be all you need. Is there any family member you would like to visit? Look up clubs in the area. Somewhere you'd like to vacation? Look up clubs in the area. It doesn't have to only be about working.
    Most the time, I don't tell them I'm traveling. I just go in and ask for an audition. Well, I call ahead and ask what their audition times are and what I should bring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arielbriel View Post
    Travel alone if you have to. It's great. You will be focused on making money and a change of scenery may be all you need. Is there any family member you would like to visit? Look up clubs in the area. Somewhere you'd like to vacation? Look up clubs in the area. It doesn't have to only be about working.
    Most the time, I don't tell them I'm traveling. I just go in and ask for an audition. Well, I call ahead and ask what their audition times are and what I should bring.
    This is what I did too, when Bella and I were travelling on our road trip. I completely agree with this attitude. If I only take this into account, you and I would be good travel buddies.
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    I don't advocate lying to the clubs & telling them you "moved there". If you like the club it won't be as easy for you to return. Its better just to find out in advance who takes traveling dancers.
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    Yeah, I don't tell them I've moved there, either. I usually just tell them if they ask that I'm thinking about moving here but need to see what the clubs are like first. I mean nobody moves blind. Before I moved to NY, I worked a month here and a month there in the clubs and really got a feel of what kind of income I could generate.
    P, we should travel together. If we do SWfest in NOLA, would you come out and work with me?

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    I'm liking the idea of traveling more and more. I did quit my job yesterday and now I feel a kick to go out and earn money but don't necessarily want to commit myself to another club yet... and am freaking out about my decision... I think a trip may be what I need to get my head back on straight.

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    Ariel, I might. I worked in NOLA for a short while at AthenatheFabulous's club, but I want to try a different one. I didn't do well there so I think I might do better at a diff club.


    I don't lie and tell em I'm moving there, I just don't offer too many details about what I am doing in town, and most SC managers don't ask, which is to my advantage.
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    travel! it'll be fun and you will always bank when it's your first time at a club. EVERY TIME I start working at a new club a few guys will come up to me asking for a dance since they've "never seen me". if you work at the same club guys will remember you (even if you don't remember them).

    stay in a hotel or if you know a friend who lives two or three hours away, stay with them and work at their local clubs.

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    It's all about the strip trips
    I'm on one now with my best friend (we always work together). Our club is closed all summer, so we just worked 4 nights in Paris during the roland garros tennis, and now we're on our way to the airport to fly to oslo for a few weeks. Then back home before the south of Spain, then maybe Paris again. I love my life. And since we add one new club to the list each year the others are familiar and not intimidating.

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    K, Are you american or european?

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    Who me? Scottish and damn proud of it!

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    Basically, I'm wondering how you work in different countries? AMericans can't really do that, right?

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    Ahh, yes, the European passport is a blessing. I don't know of any clubs that hire non Europeans without appropriate visas. I did work at one club that was talking of sponsoring a kiwi girl for a visa, but she turned out to be a bit psycho so they didn't in the end.
    It does mean I can't exactly go work across the pond either though...and I'm pretty screwed if my customers don't speak English or French...

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    oh my god. it's so slow here tonight and there are so many hot girls here! it really sucks and i'm super-bored. i wish i could travel but my fiance would not like that

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    One of the worst things about small clubs is that they have a lot of the same customers who come in all the time and since they hang out there so much, they feel like the dancers are their friends and that they don't have to spend anything. Blech.






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    Quote Originally Posted by blondhottie View Post
    One of the worst things about small clubs is that they have a lot of the same customers who come in all the time and since they hang out there so much, they feel like the dancers are their friends and that they don't have to spend anything. Blech.
    This was exactly my problem! I genuinely liked some of the regulars and I didn't mind going over to say hi and catch-up for 5 minutes. But when that's all done, I didn't want to sit with them any longer because I knew they wouldn't spend any money until they came to the stage to tip me a dollar. But if those were the only people in the club.... I had nowhere else to go. Plus, I feel like I was able to hustle better when I didn't know who was a regular - when I was new, I had no idea if someone was a regular who didn't spend much money so if I bothered to be the only one who hustled him, I could generally get a little more out of him. But now, if a guy comes in all the time, even if he would buy if I bothered to hustle him like I do other customers, I don't even put forth the effort because he's become a non-customer in my head... Ugh Maybe some girls thrive off developing really good relations with a ton of regulars but I feel like I get into a better hustle-mode when I'm around people I haven't seen before and would do better in a bigger club with more variety.

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    hey i just went back to work last night after a month-or-so long break and OMG I hate how slow it is!! I'm trying to save up to get a license so I can go to another club but it's so frustrating because it's goign to take me at least two weeks to get the money since it's so slow. And on top of that one of the other girls was telling me how a girl who we used to work with left and went to a better club and she's making 600 on DAY shifts..while i walk out with not even 200 on a night shift!

    I definitely feel everyone's pain about small and slow clubs. I wish I had that 500 dollars to get a license so I can get out of there but it's going to take a little longer than I was hoping! (I SHOULD have that money saved from when I worked last but I managed to spend all of my money..definitely a learning experience now I think I will be able to manage my money better now I'm working again)

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