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    I had a series of exchanges with fellow SW members. Those exchanges were primarily related to economy and illegal alien strippers. However, the aftermath of those exchanges were the birth of a nascent idea in my mind. I will start this thread as an exercise in rearing this idea.

    First of all let me introduce you what an H1-B is. This is a type of visa issued by US government to foreign nationals who meet a very strict criteria set forth by Department of Labor. As you probably guessed it, it has something to do with labor shortage in the United States of America. Let us say there is a corporation called XYZ Corporation, which is in dire need of an electrical engineer to work on one of its RADAR manufacturing facilities. If this company cannot find a qualified American engineer and it can prove to the Department of Labor that it has looked for a period of time dictated by Department of Labor then the XYZ Corporation can sponsor a foreign national on H1-B program to work for it. The goal of this sponsorship is to gradually bring this foreigner into American fold by giving him/her permanent resident status and eventually a naturalized citizenship. This should give you a rough idea on what an H1-B is. As I am not an Immigration Lawyer, I would be delighted if someone with that background can expand on it and correct any error if found.

    All right. Let us come back to strip clubs. I have been hearing lots of chatter on illegal alien strippers working at the strip clubs. A lots of people seem really unhappy about it for reasons ranging from taxes to fake IDs. So let us give our club owners an option to sponsor foreign national strippers on H1-B visa. Also, I would add this, since Indians (the VISA workers as coined by KellyDancer) have more than their lion's share of engineering, medical, science and other non-cool stuff, we will discourage Indian strippers from participating. Pakistani strippers are more than welcome to participate in the H1-B program. However our real target would be strippers from European countries like Germany, UK, etc. Non European countries that are white such as Canada and Australia will also be encouraged to participate in this program. Well, there is a real chance that strippers in those countries may not be that excited to immigrate to USA. In that case, we will resort to eastern European countries such as Poland, Romania, etc.

    Besides improving the quality of our strippers, it may cut down the cost of lap dances which means more business. More business mean better economy. Everyone wins under this arrangement. Customer gets high quality strippers for prices he can afford. Clubs make more profit.

    I think it is a great idea.

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    Sigh... I'm not even sure what to tell you.

    Why would you want the prices of lap dances to go down? They've been pretty much the same price for the past 10 years. The price of pretty much everything else (food, gas, etc) goes up from inflation, including our maintenance products & services (hair stylists, makeup, clothes)... so why should the price of a lap dance go down? We struggle to make money because their are already too many girls & not enough GOOD customers. A small percent of entertainers already earn the majority of the money coming through the door... adding more dancers & lowering the price of lap dances just takes more money away from them.

    Plus, while there are some good dancers from other countries, many of them struggle... often due to language barrier or stereotypes. If they can't make the money they need to be making they are more likely to fall into providing extra services, which again doesn't help us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    I think it is a great idea too. If they are on sponsored visas it will be easier to make sure they are really as old as they say they are. I do, however, believe that we should be more selective in who we allow to come here on visas. We should only be inviting in the best of the best, otherwise the clubs will continue to be flooded with subpar strippers. I also believe we have a moral duty to try to prevent sex trafficking from other countries, so we shouldn't allow girls who would be prime victims to come here. This would primarily be younger girls. I also don't think that younger girls would be mature enough to come work in another country. I think we should set the minimum age requirement to 39. This would prevent sex trackers from exploiting young girls and allow future US dancers enough time to learn proper English.
    These are all good points. However I think that it will be too difficult for new dancers to come here on their own. What would make the most sense would be to have large shipments of dancers who come all at once. Preferably, we would fill a boat or some other type of transportation vessel at a dock in Germany/Romania/etc and float them over together. On the way they would engage in stipper boot camp and learn the ways of the stipper. Once the lessons are over they would be ranked in order of 'teirs' depending on how well they did with their studies. They would have stars affixed to their lucite, platform shoes. That would determine the type of club they may work at.

    I also think young women should be exluded from this service becasue they are often not attractive at all and cannot move well. Women should be in their 40's for sure. All attractive dancers are.



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    I like the idea about the foreign dancers. As far as lowering the price of LD's I wouldn't go there.
    The biggest problem with SC's is the lack of professionalism and foreigners can raise the bar. That will draw more customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4everresolutions View Post
    These are all good points. However I think that it will be too difficult for new dancers to come here on their own. What would make the most sense would be to have large shipments of dancers who come all at once. Preferably, we would fill a boat or some other type of transportation vessel at a dock in Germany/Romania/etc and float them over together. On the way they would engage in stipper boot camp and learn the ways of the stipper. Once the lessons are over they would be ranked in order of 'teirs' depending on how well they did with their studies. They would have stars affixed to their lucite, platform shoes. That would determine the type of club they may work at.

    I also think young women should be exluded from this service becasue they are often not attractive at all and cannot move well. Women should be in their 40's for sure. All attractive dancers are.
    I think Brigham is just suggesting that H1-B be applied to stripper jobs. I think it's a good idea. As far as where they would come from, we would all have different preferences. Countries/places like Eastern Europe, Pakistan, Phillipines makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    Your response does not amuse me. This is a serious thread. Stripper boot camp on a boat? How on earth would strippers be able to walk on platform shoes on a rocking boat? They could not possibly keep their balance. A much more sensible suggestion would be that the boat would be run by plastic surgeons and the strippers could all have boob jobs during their journey.

    I also do not think they should be thrust into clubs in big cities at first. I would route all ships to Alaska where we can break them in and ease the transition for them.
    I do not understand why you are so hostile. My suggestions are good ones. Yours can not be serious. Let me explain.

    Strippers as we all know tend to freeze in very cold temperatures. This is why you see most strippers living and working in Cali/FL/Texas/other warm places. This is also why strippers cannot survive in Canada. If you took strippers to Alaska the results would be tragic.

    Having all strippers get boob jobs on a boat is a dumb idea too; it should be reserved for the strippers that do better in their studies in the rest. Please keep this thread on track and do not be such a negative nasty person.

    Getting back to my better idea of a stripper ship. I also think that holders of an Exotic Dancers H1-B visa should be qualified to pass an entrance exam. It is not uncommon for people in other occupations who come to the USA to have to pass an extrance exam. It tests their knowledge of their specialty. EDH1B exams should cover:

    -Anatomy ex. identifying a circumcised penis from an uncircumcised penis from a vagina (not always easy when it comes to lesbians with large clits).
    -Common English stripper phrases ex. "Pay a dolla', make ya holla'" and "vould you like my menu?"
    -Proper stripper hustle ex. "Please, my kids are hungry" and "My pimp beats me if I don't make XXX amount"
    -Stripper ettiquette ex. Hustling guys at the tip rail because they're probably lonely up there far from the commotion. Having sex with customers if they ask a lot becasue they sound like they REALLY care about you (and it's only polite to do something for someone who cares about you).
    -Cleanliness ex Once a week strippers should have to complie with a mandatory PTA cleaning; Pussy Tits and Armpits. This ensures all stippers are kept hygienic.

    Those are just some examples of the classes that would take place on the Stipper Ship before the 45 year old, unibrowed German dancers land in the USA.

    Saying that strippers cannot walk on a rocky boat in high heel shoes is degrading to stippers. You are implying that strippers are not good at what they do. You are insulting to strippers and clearly do not belong on this website.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    I think Brigham is just suggesting that H1-B be applied to stripper jobs. I think it's a good idea. As far as where they would come from, we would all have different preferences. Countries/places like Eastern Europe, Pakistan, Phillipines makes sense.
    Yes it makes sense but would only be financially viable if the government was making a substantial amount of money off the strippers coming to this country with the EDH1-B visa; otherwise all the additional paperwork would be moot point if the stripper fell on hard times and the tax payers have to absorb the cost of her wellfair.

    This is why I proposed the USS StripperShip - it would transfer large amounts of strippers into the USA from other countries at one time. It makes the most sense. This has been done in Canada but the strippers all died due to the cold weather, except the ones from Romania. They were used to the cold but had hairy upper lips that they wouldn't shave so they didn't make much for the clubs anyway. That is also why I suggest an entrance exam for H1-B strippers



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    Brigham's idea doesn't seem to be too popular. Fine. When I start going to the club next month I'm not going to spend any money.

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    ugh. nvm.



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    BringOnTheMen & 4everresolutions, I love both of you... but you have me ROFLing! I actually thought both posts were hilarious.
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    On second though, this is really too good to drop. I'm texting Athena & Tempest... they'll love this!
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    ^YAY! More to party. Becasue my finger are getting tired. Stroking my 'Engorged sex' and all.



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    Bring on the H1-B strippers. I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    Bring on the H1-B strippers. I like it.
    Sounds like an STD though.



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    I'd love the opportunity to come over and work legally in the US. A couple if friends did it illegally and made a fortune just because if their accents.


    But the above post says 'improving the quality of our strippers' which pisses me off. Girls in europe are no better than in the US. Sure, variety is a great thing, but the quality of strippers has nothing to do with nationality.

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    Love this thread, but one aspect was missed and that is making sure these girls are healthy. Therefore I recommend that only fat strippers be allowed on the stripper boat. See, skinny means unhealthy and we want healthy strippers so the fatter the better. The keep them healthy lots of food should be on the ship, things such as Twinkies and Ho Hos. That way we know they are healthy and won't be taxpayer dependent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4everresolutions View Post
    Sounds like an STD though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kitinboots View Post
    I'd love the opportunity to come over and work legally in the US. A couple if friends did it illegally and made a fortune just because if their accents.


    But the above post says 'improving the quality of our strippers' which pisses me off. Girls in europe are no better than in the US. Sure, variety is a great thing, but the quality of strippers has nothing to do with nationality.
    I see your point. It's not just the strippers, it's the customers too. It's the whole scene. I didn't know dancers have to baby-sit customers at ATM machines. That's just pathetic and depressing to think about.

    There's the management too.

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    Visas are not supposed to be used to as a way to get cheap labor and drive down wages. They are used to fill specialized positions that require specialized education. Using it for dancers would be a foolish since the only purpose would be to drive down wages.

    However, there is a visa which is sometimes used to exploit women in this fashion. The J1 visa is supposed to be used for cultural exchange or intern positions. But some sleazy people will bring women to the US under the pretense of a good job and then force them to work in strip clubs.

    Even if dancers qualified for H1-B visas, they would very likely be heavily exploited by their employer. That practically happens today with anyone on an H1-B. Their employer treats them almost like a slave knowing that the employee can either take it or go back to their home country. Just imagine what that would mean to foreign dancers working for a club which held their H1-B. The dancer would be forced to do just about anything the manager wanted.

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    omg i am so in love with you for this post. you have replaced brigham as my favorite poster of all time.

    Quote Originally Posted by 4everresolutions View Post
    I do not understand why you are so hostile. My suggestions are good ones. Yours can not be serious. Let me explain.

    Strippers as we all know tend to freeze in very cold temperatures. This is why you see most strippers living and working in Cali/FL/Texas/other warm places. This is also why strippers cannot survive in Canada. If you took strippers to Alaska the results would be tragic.

    Having all strippers get boob jobs on a boat is a dumb idea too; it should be reserved for the strippers that do better in their studies in the rest. Please keep this thread on track and do not be such a negative nasty person.

    Getting back to my better idea of a stripper ship. I also think that holders of an Exotic Dancers H1-B visa should be qualified to pass an entrance exam. It is not uncommon for people in other occupations who come to the USA to have to pass an extrance exam. It tests their knowledge of their specialty. EDH1B exams should cover:

    -Anatomy ex. identifying a circumcised penis from an uncircumcised penis from a vagina (not always easy when it comes to lesbians with large clits).
    -Common English stripper phrases ex. "Pay a dolla', make ya holla'" and "vould you like my menu?"
    -Proper stripper hustle ex. "Please, my kids are hungry" and "My pimp beats me if I don't make XXX amount"
    -Stripper ettiquette ex. Hustling guys at the tip rail because they're probably lonely up there far from the commotion. Having sex with customers if they ask a lot becasue they sound like they REALLY care about you (and it's only polite to do something for someone who cares about you).
    -Cleanliness ex Once a week strippers should have to complie with a mandatory PTA cleaning; Pussy Tits and Armpits. This ensures all stippers are kept hygienic.

    Those are just some examples of the classes that would take place on the Stipper Ship before the 45 year old, unibrowed German dancers land in the USA.

    Saying that strippers cannot walk on a rocky boat in high heel shoes is degrading to stippers. You are implying that strippers are not good at what they do. You are insulting to strippers and clearly do not belong on this website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4everresolutions View Post
    I do not understand why you are so hostile. My suggestions are good ones. Yours can not be serious. Let me explain.

    Strippers as we all know tend to freeze in very cold temperatures. This is why you see most strippers living and working in Cali/FL/Texas/other warm places. This is also why strippers cannot survive in Canada. If you took strippers to Alaska the results would be tragic.

    Having all strippers get boob jobs on a boat is a dumb idea too; it should be reserved for the strippers that do better in their studies in the rest. Please keep this thread on track and do not be such a negative nasty person.

    Getting back to my better idea of a stripper ship. I also think that holders of an Exotic Dancers H1-B visa should be qualified to pass an entrance exam. It is not uncommon for people in other occupations who come to the USA to have to pass an extrance exam. It tests their knowledge of their specialty. EDH1B exams should cover:

    -Anatomy ex. identifying a circumcised penis from an uncircumcised penis from a vagina (not always easy when it comes to lesbians with large clits).
    -Common English stripper phrases ex. "Pay a dolla', make ya holla'" and "vould you like my menu?"
    -Proper stripper hustle ex. "Please, my kids are hungry" and "My pimp beats me if I don't make XXX amount"
    -Stripper ettiquette ex. Hustling guys at the tip rail because they're probably lonely up there far from the commotion. Having sex with customers if they ask a lot becasue they sound like they REALLY care about you (and it's only polite to do something for someone who cares about you).
    -Cleanliness ex Once a week strippers should have to complie with a mandatory PTA cleaning; Pussy Tits and Armpits. This ensures all stippers are kept hygienic.

    Those are just some examples of the classes that would take place on the Stipper Ship before the 45 year old, unibrowed German dancers land in the USA.

    Saying that strippers cannot walk on a rocky boat in high heel shoes is degrading to stippers. You are implying that strippers are not good at what they do. You are insulting to strippers and clearly do not belong on this website.
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    You are the one who is derailing it, not me. Please save your insults for another being.



    These are all good ideas. However, the most important part of training would be to train the stripper to not be a ROB. $20 for a stupid lapdance is just exorbitantly high and most strippers actually ask for a tip on top of that. It's completely unacceptable behavior that we should be discouraging.



    These women on the boat would not be strippers yet, they would still be in training. Where in my post did I insult the strippers on this board? You are just reading what you want to read. Please take your hate somewhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickT View Post
    Visas are not supposed to be used to as a way to get cheap labor and drive down wages. They are used to fill specialized positions that require specialized education. Using it for dancers would be a foolish since the only purpose would be to drive down wages.

    However, there is a visa which is sometimes used to exploit women in this fashion. The J1 visa is supposed to be used for cultural exchange or intern positions. But some sleazy people will bring women to the US under the pretense of a good job and then force them to work in strip clubs.

    Even if dancers qualified for H1-B visas, they would very likely be heavily exploited by their employer. That practically happens today with anyone on an H1-B. Their employer treats them almost like a slave knowing that the employee can either take it or go back to their home country. Just imagine what that would mean to foreign dancers working for a club which held their H1-B. The dancer would be forced to do just about anything the manager wanted.
    Well, I do not think lower prices is the primary and intended benefit. The main benefit that could come from H1-B strippers is - quality. Put yourself in the shoes of a club owner. Let us say he needs 25 strippers for his club. He can find 15 excellent domestic strippers. The other ten are drug addicts or they get into fights with customers or they steal. You could add all sorts of vices. He puts up with these ten strippers because he has no choice. Given the choice, he would certainly love to fill the rest of the vacancies with excellent strippers from overseas.

    As far as exploitation of H1-B strippers is concerned, we could fight it the same way we fight the exploitation in high tech workers. Tough penalty from Department of Labor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitinboots View Post
    I'd love the opportunity to come over and work legally in the US. A couple if friends did it illegally and made a fortune just because if their accents.


    But the above post says 'improving the quality of our strippers' which pisses me off. Girls in europe are no better than in the US. Sure, variety is a great thing, but the quality of strippers has nothing to do with nationality.
    No I did not say that American strippers are worse looking than European strippers. What I said was clubs will not have to resort to lower quality strippers just to fill the vacancies. This is what will improve the quality. I have traveled various corners of the globe and I can certainly say that American women are the best looking. It is primarily because they spend a lot of money and effort on their looks. Anyhow that is a totally different topic.

    I am a big fan of doing things legally. Here is why. If your girl friends had come here on H1-B as opposed to working illegally in strip clubs, they would have paid H1-B visa fees which is a hefty sum. The money we earn from H1-B fees can be spent on public services such as road, schools and yada yada. So everybody wins.

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