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    Hello everyone,

    I'm uncertain as to whether these questions have been answered already on the boards here, so I apologise if you're sick of answering them.

    I am an actor in training, and am currently researching some characters. This entails extensive research in their background, personality and of course, their profession.

    (The character in question here is a 24 year old named Alice, who is a stripper/dancer in London (in the play "Closer", Patrick Marber))

    The questions I want to ask:

    -What hours are standard for the industry?
    -What is the average income? For a "middle class" dancer, if that is the right term.
    -What are the working conditions in the average establishment? Is there a high level of harassment, or are customers generally respectful?
    -And what skills are required/useful for the job?

    Thank you for taking the time to read/answer. Any and all information you have will be very useful.

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    lmao what the FUCK.

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    You don't understand my question?

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    Maybe have a read through the newbie section of the board. Many girls ask similar questions when they are considering dancing and I think you'll find all the answers you need there, although the majority of posters on here are in America.

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    i can't be the only one tired of people trying to get free stories for their novels and dissertations here. we're strippers. we get paid to talk.

    and we all have paypal accounts when you get serious.

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    ^^^ +2 That's how I feel to the "t".
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    Quote Originally Posted by DjembeTheBard View Post
    (The character in question here is a 24 year old named Alice, who is a stripper/dancer in London (in the play "Closer", Patrick Marber))
    You're a guy playing the part of Alice? Not that there's anything wrong with that, if you are an accomplished cross-dresser, of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by DjembeTheBard View Post
    -What hours are standard for the industry?
    -What is the average income? For a "middle class" dancer, if that is the right term.
    -What are the working conditions in the average establishment? Is there a high level of harassment, or are customers generally respectful?
    -And what skills are required/useful for the job?
    Dayshift generally 12 noon to 8 PM, give or take an hour or two later.
    Nightshift generally 7-10 PM until 2-4 AM, later in the big party cities like Vegas.

    Income varies so widely, from club to club, city to city, dancer to dancer--there is no good answer. The days when a really good-looking hustler could regularly pull in a thousand a night are pretty much over. But it still happens, especially in the upscale big city clubs with really beautiful girls and rich patrons. We have girls here who do it, but most don't, especially now that it's summer. In several clubs I have worked, I have seen many out of shape, over the hill dancers with nasty abrasive personalities, working dayshift, who are lucky to make 100$--but it beats working McDonalds I guess.

    Working conditions are generally brutal. I mean that literally--though dancers aren't likely to get beaten up, they are likely to get literally sexually assaulted on a nightly basis. Verbal abuse is also a constant. Even if the customers are well-behaved, rubbing all over strange men, having them grabbing your tits and ass all night--it ain't much fun, really. To say the least.

    Having a thick skin is vitally necessary, as well as acting ability. Good sales technique and people skills are very handy.

    Good luck...
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    Quote Originally Posted by camille27 View Post
    i can't be the only one tired of people trying to get free stories for their novels and dissertations here. we're strippers. we get paid to talk.

    and we all have paypal accounts when you get serious.
    So...that's a "no, I don't understand the question" then?

    I don't know where you got the novel/dissertation thing from, after I clearly stated that I'm researching a character for theatre. I'm not asking for your stories- just for relevant information.

    But wait: you're actually asking to be paid to tell me these things? I think you're misunderstanding the concept of the forum, and even the internet: a place for the free exchange of ideas/

    I was also under the impression that you were paid primarily to, well, strip. You might want to think about renaming your profession?

    Thankfully, several others on this site have actually been helpful, so you haven't skewed my view on the members of this profession. I guess you're just one of the reasons social perspective and relations are the way they are now.

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    Kitinboots and Djoser, thank you very much for your help. It's greatly appreciated.

    And no, I am not playing Alice- just researching all of the characters in the play.

    Thanks again.

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    frankly, i'm not sure what kind of writer creates characters they know NOTHING about. that's like me writing a novel about a rocket scientist. though i suggest i have more friends at nasa and langley than you do at hustler and penthouse.

    what you're purporting to know doesn't make goddamn sense. writer to writer. have a blessed 2011.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camille27 View Post
    frankly, i'm not sure what kind of writer creates characters they know NOTHING about. that's like me writing a novel about a rocket scientist. though i suggest i have more friends at nasa and langley than you do at hustler and penthouse.

    what you're purporting to know doesn't make goddamn sense. writer to writer. have a blessed 2011.
    I'm not sure what you're getting at there. I'm assuming you don't know much about theatre?

    And I'm just making an observation here, not a shot at your knowledge base: you can tone down the bitchiness, if you like.

    What I am doing is researching characters in a play. I personally did not write the play- that's what playwrights do.

    The job of the actor, when they get a role, is research that character: job, background, environment, upbringing, and of course, profession. And that is what I'm doing here- researching the profession. This is all in order to portray the character in the most authentic light possible.
    If you think about it, you'd really want to assist a creative if they ask about your profession. Not if they just want dirty tales; but if they are asking for insights and fact. The more information they have, the more justice they can do to you and your industry.

    Now, to be honest, you don't sound like much of a writer at all- purely because you seem to think research is a waste of time. Again, not an insult. Though that stuff about NASA and Penthouse...was that meant to be? I mean, you really do sound like you're blowing it out your arse there. No offence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DjembeTheBard View Post
    I'm not sure what you're getting at there. I'm assuming you don't know much about theatre?

    And I'm just making an observation here, not a shot at your knowledge base: you can tone down the bitchiness, if you like.

    What I am doing is researching characters in a play. I personally did not write the play- that's what playwrights do.

    The job of the actor, when they get a role, is research that character: job, background, environment, upbringing, and of course, profession. And that is what I'm doing here- researching the profession. This is all in order to portray the character in the most authentic light possible.
    If you think about it, you'd really want to assist a creative if they ask about your profession. Not if they just want dirty tales; but if they are asking for insights and fact. The more information they have, the more justice they can do to you and your industry.

    Now, to be honest, you don't sound like much of a writer at all- purely because you seem to think research is a waste of time. Again, not an insult. Though that stuff about NASA and Penthouse...was that meant to be? I mean, you really do sound like you're blowing it out your arse there. No offence.
    I think you are the one who needs to tone it down a little princess. You are an anonymous party trying to poll a user group for information about what they do. It goes without saying that you will receive a variety of reactions, some of which will be negative. You should be man enough to chalk it up to what it is. In fact, the folks that I know who conduct research don't get worked up when they initially receive strong negative reactions from the targets - in fact, that itself is useful information. Overall, they tend to listen and observe more and react less.

    For all of the reasons above, as well as the fact that your writing style is sloppy and disjointed, I'm not really buying your story. You across as someone who just came in here to cause trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DjembeTheBard View Post
    I am an actor in training, and am currently researching some characters. This entails extensive research in their background, personality and of course, their profession.

    (The character in question here is a 24 year old named Alice, who is a stripper/dancer in London (in the play "Closer", Patrick Marber))
    I would suggest that you go to a strip club or two and ask these questions in person. I wouldn't expect too many answers on the dancer income question. Be prepared to tip a few bucks and remember that clubs, working conditions and customs are different all over the world.
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    To the OP, you have to understand that we have gotten so many of these types of threads and questions over the years, our tolerance has shrunken considerably. Don't take it personally.

    Plus women get these kind of things happening in the clubs when they are working sometimes too. Their irritation naturally enough can carry over into this forum.

    Anyway, glad to be of assistance. I would recommend that you read the Stripping General area for the dancers' perspective, bearing in mind that it is inherently biased at times, and can even suffer from delusional thinking at worst.

    Customers' perspective is readily found in the Stripclubjunkies area, or Customer Conversation. Same caveat applies, probably a little more so. So many of those 'Trip Reports' are clearly fictional, it's actually funny if you are in the mood for it. I'm not talking about extras, those are very real and if anything much more prevalent than you'd think from reading Stripping General. I'm talking about all the totally free extras all these guys are getting every time they go to the clubs.

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