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    Quote Originally Posted by izshadow View Post
    I'm spying on some rooms and hearing "I've never seen it like this, I cant stay here all night if its going to be like this, maybe its the holiday, this has been like this all week".....

    Sigh. It's nice to know its not just you but its heartbreaking for all of us.
    im super grateful for regulars.
    The amount of 1 min shows I did yesterday was insane. All new accounts

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    btw girls, who has chat notifications on - do you see that it says 'user565685' has logged on, and there is no name on users column (between video feed and chat window), but my potentials show +1. Then this mf leaves and my potentials show that someone left. mwahahaha now I can see these potential invisible bastards!
    Yes I think there's been a few posts about this in the last week or so.

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    I was ranking in the contest as I worked the early hours. Then I logged on in the afternoon and had an absolutely terrible 1.5hrs. I called it a day at that point. After the bonus week I couldn't bare riding it out for hours on end like that. Sometimes it's not worth the headache and stress.

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    im super grateful for regulars.
    The amount of 1 min shows I did yesterday was insane. All new accounts
    Regulars have honestly been my saving grace this month.

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    Regulars have honestly been my saving grace this month.
    Sometimes it seems like that is all there are! You can get by if you have lots of faves like 25k+ but apart from that it seems like it is only organic traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minibagel View Post
    these comments are a perfect showcase of how legitimately scary sm is becoming. i don’t think SM cares if we walk off cam during a bonus week, but the fact that models are paranoid enough to even have these fears and concerns in the first place just proves how insanely strict SM has become, and tbh always has been with their ever growing list of rules & restrictions.

    it is still the wild west on other cam sites, especially mfc & cb. there is a lot more freedom, and i’m talking real unshackled freedom where precisely *zero* models are worried about getting suspended for walking off cam at any point during the month long Miss MFC contest, getting in trouble for what members type in your chat room, wearing logos on their clothes, having a tv playing in the background, etc. why would any of that matter when these platforms allow girls to smoke weed & drink alcohol on cam, girls can charge tips for shots and get blackout drunk. models can take copyrighted material like movies or video games and overlay them right onto their OBS streams. customers are even allowed to share personal info directly on the site for models to mail physical goods/prizes such as homemade cookies, photo prints, panties, etc. they don't even care if you want to go offsite to skype (as long as you pay in tokens). they only forbid advertising direct competitors. wild wild west!

    remember when Delivery got suspended for showing porn on her phone? both mfc & cb have a massive database of gifs/emotes available for use in chat rooms. this includes custom cam girl emotes, celebrity/tv/movie emotes, athletes/sports, cartoons, corporate logos, any copyrighted material you can think of is probably in the database. it also includes PORN GIFS. nobody over there is getting a week long suspension for having 'unauthorized people' showing on stream, sm just likes to take it to the Next F*cking Level. it is pretty easy to distinguish a real, live person on the stream vs. someone obviously not physically present, like a tiny face on a phone or tv screen. so the fact that delivery was suspended for a week over this was both terrifying and way beyond harsh especially without any clear rules at the time.
    To be fair these "rules and restrictions" are not coming from SM. Its Mastercard and Visa that are doing this. Slowly but surely they are trying to shut down the porn industry. They first started with PH and then they went after all big companies, SM included. It will not stop there either. Phase 2 will be be to say that you can only sign on to "watch" if you submit all your personal ID. That means the clients will have to submit ID and they will say its to "prove they are of age". THEN some hackers are going to hack into that honey pot of ID's and dox our clients. (think AshleyMadison) When that happens lots of our clients will be to scared to come and pay to see us anymore. They wont want to submit ID for fear of being DOXED or being DOXED again. I promise you this is happening. I can help you to fight against it but Im not sure how much I should post here.

    Well I shouldnt say fight against it but I can show you another way to keep doing this job and making money while protecting your clients and yourselves.

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    Are SM paying earlier these days? I'm in the UK and I got paid from Worldpay today, usually it's a Friday. Not that I mind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fetishqueen View Post
    Are SM paying earlier these days? I'm in the UK and I got paid from Worldpay today, usually it's a Friday. Not that I mind!
    They are paying early cause its a long weekend in the USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepThoughts View Post
    To be fair these "rules and restrictions" are not coming from SM. Its Mastercard and Visa that are doing this. Slowly but surely they are trying to shut down the porn industry. They first started with PH and then they went after all big companies, SM included. It will not stop there either. Phase 2 will be be to say that you can only sign on to "watch" if you submit all your personal ID. That means the clients will have to submit ID and they will say its to "prove they are of age". THEN some hackers are going to hack into that honey pot of ID's and dox our clients. (think AshleyMadison) When that happens lots of our clients will be to scared to come and pay to see us anymore. They wont want to submit ID for fear of being DOXED or being DOXED again. I promise you this is happening. I can help you to fight against it but Im not sure how much I should post here.

    Well I shouldnt say fight against it but I can show you another way to keep doing this job and making money while protecting your clients and yourselves.
    I

    Pornhub had it coming: "‘I was raped at 14, and the video ended up on a porn site’ - BBC News" https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-51391981.amp

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    Quote Originally Posted by JessRyan View Post
    I

    Pornhub had it coming: "‘I was raped at 14, and the video ended up on a porn site’ - BBC News" https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-51391981.amp

    Streamate having problems too though

    https://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/i...the-dark-trail

    This is the English version of a Norwegian expose published this month

    https://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/i...-abuse-to-user

    And another

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    Quote Originally Posted by JessRyan View Post
    I

    Pornhub had it coming: "‘I was raped at 14, and the video ended up on a porn site’ - BBC News" https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-51391981.amp
    Its true. They could have done so much more and they didnt. They hurt many people and their families and they also hurt our entire industry. Stories like this one are not condoned by our industry and it is not a reflection of us but it will be used to hurt this industry in the name of protecting people like this. Sadly its all a lie. No one will be protected by the actions of Mastercard and Visa. It was never the point to protect anyone. The point is to shut us down even though the vast majority are consenting adults we will all be punished. They hide behind stories like these and wear them as shields but at the end of the day they do not care at all about the victims. They just hate us and they hate porn.

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    Facebook has more csam than porn sites, but they will always come after the adult oriented sites first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepThoughts View Post
    They just hate us and they hate porn.
    Whats twisted is they secretly love porn and consume a lot of it while also paying escorts and strippers for their secret parties so they can cheat on their wives but veil their hypocrisy with fake religious values and morals. The people who hate us the most are the ones who pay the most behind closed doors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emkato View Post
    Whats twisted is they secretly love porn and consume a lot of it while also paying escorts and strippers for their secret parties so they can cheat on their wives but veil their hypocrisy with fake religious values and morals. The people who hate us the most are the ones who pay the most behind closed doors.
    True. I suppose it would be more accurate to say that they hate that porn is so accessible for the unwashed as it is. Its no longer exclusively for the 1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquidsilk View Post
    Streamate having problems too though

    https://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/i...the-dark-trail

    This is the English version of a Norwegian expose published this month

    https://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/i...-abuse-to-user

    And another
    ...yikes! That's very, VERY bad news
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarinaGiselle View Post
    ...yikes! That's very, VERY bad news
    jesus! This is gross

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquidsilk View Post
    Streamate having problems too though

    https://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/i...the-dark-trail

    This is the English version of a Norwegian expose published this month

    https://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/i...-abuse-to-user

    And another
    The article doesnt mention SM its not likely they have seen much activity of this form happing on the site considering they only pay out 30%. There are plenty of other, less regulated sites that offer a higher payout. Its always good to be super vigilant of what goes on out there in our world though. I have spoken out many times here about models who would roleplay for pedos on SM. Acting like little girls. That used to piss me off so much. Everyone would try to justifying it by saying "well if they are doing it with me then they aren't hurting children". As if they were some kind of super hero. In one respect it should never have taken Visa and Mastercard to fix these simpler issues. The big porn sites should have done that a long time ago just because it is the right thing to do.

    It doesnt change that fact that most of the people using the internet for this purpose are consenting adults and this is just a take down. Forcing restrictions upon us all is not going to stop pedos from buying children in poor countries or stop human trafficking or even stop rape, its not even going to slow it down! That is just the cover story. We can go back to free internet AND do a lot to stop the poverty that leads to so much of this abuse happening though. There is still a happy light at the end of this tunnel.

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    The article is only about streamate. ICF changed their name to Accretive. I know it's a long article but there is a whole section about the tier 2 payout ranging from 20% to 30%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquidsilk View Post
    Sometimes it seems like that is all there are! You can get by if you have lots of faves like 25k+ but apart from that it seems like it is only organic traffic.
    Damn, how do you even get that many faves? Is it all just built over time- I totally wasted my new period so I've got roughly 600 faves lol! It's slowlyyyyy increasing but at an imperceptible rate

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    Quote Originally Posted by roseforarose View Post
    Damn, how do you even get that many faves? Is it all just built over time- I totally wasted my new period so I've got roughly 600 faves lol! It's slowlyyyyy increasing but at an imperceptible rate
    I don't have that many but I do have a lot. I was just imagining that it must be easier to keep a room ticking over even in quieter times if you gather that many favourites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepThoughts View Post
    To be fair these "rules and restrictions" are not coming from SM. Its Mastercard and Visa that are doing this. Slowly but surely they are trying to shut down the porn industry. They first started with PH and then they went after all big companies, SM included. It will not stop there either. Phase 2 will be be to say that you can only sign on to "watch" if you submit all your personal ID. That means the clients will have to submit ID and they will say its to "prove they are of age".
    Honestly that's not far off, in the UK you need an ID for restricted YouTube videos they tried to bring in a law for ID to access any online porn but then realised they don't know how the internet fucking works so that's not gunna happen. In all fairness I'm not really *that* against clients needing ID but I know it will affect our money, credit card should be enough tbh.

    But yeah because of the restrictions I'm very hesitant to join one of the camsites that lets models do whatever the fuck they want....they've going to be the first shut down or facing massive restrictions. Since the owners of OF couldn't be bothered to pay their taxes and already tried to ban porn on their site once, and MFC (also owned by Leo) is getting a reputation for being shit towards models, then I don't trust that management team to run their camsite properly. It does look really fun there though!

    Imo SM are actually very good at communicating issues and sticking within guidelines. There's still improvement to be had but plenty of other adult sites won't tell you anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquidsilk View Post
    The article is only about streamate. ICF changed their name to Accretive. I know it's a long article but there is a whole section about the tier 2 payout ranging from 20% to 30%.
    Excellent & interesting article. I'll have to read it again though because I don't remember seeing a date for their investigation & they mention 690 models where 400 agreed to provide minors.
    They do mention Streamate & right away throughout the article, well, it's Streamate.
    Bottom line is for you, as a model to run your room right. Follow the rules.
    I actually like the idea of members having to submit ID to access the site.

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    I might add, the article "The Dark Trail" is more in depth & much more informative

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    Quote Originally Posted by JessRyan View Post
    Excellent & interesting article. I'll have to read it again though because I don't remember seeing a date for their investigation & they mention 690 models where 400 agreed to provide minors.
    They do mention Streamate & right away throughout the article, well, it's Streamate.
    Bottom line is for you, as a model to run your room right. Follow the rules.
    I actually like the idea of members having to submit ID to access the site.
    I believe the main investigation started in 2018, with incidents dating back to 2014. A German case went to trial ad conviction in August 2021 and at the moment there are still at least 7 cases awaiting trial in the UK so it is definitely ongoing.

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    Hi ��
    Long time observer here.
    I just received this email from Streamate.
    Confusing, because I've been on the site everyday for the last 12 years.
    I'm sure I've walked away from the screen in those 12 years.
    To get an outfit change, to get more water, etc
    Why am I threatened with being fired for it now?
    Edit to add: They cut my stream right before I got the notice. *I was in the other room retrieving an outfit, and a toy for an upcoming show.
    Hmmm.
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