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    Brand New Article posted "Thinking Like An Entrepreneur Vs An Employee" I was going through the article and started thinking this is the exact same thing that people are debating right now in the SM thread. Its a very logical and well thought out piece on the different ways we can approach this business and what you want from it. Please take a look if you got the time.

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    My guess is SM is just going to have to keep up with the times. To me, it doesn't make sense to keep an archaic payment model from what, 12 years ago? They seem to be keeping up with technology just fine with introducing things like GS. We're tap dancing a bit too much for no raises. But, alas, I am in the SM POSITIVE group, so I'll send some good LOA vibes to corporate and Liz.
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    Sm also only gets 30 something % of many transactions don't forget, as affiliates get the other 30something.

    Ideally they would cut out affiliates, split 50/50 with models and find their own traffic. But with Google-gate how easy that would be I don't know. Models should still get some kind of referral fee, maybe base contests around referrals?

    That's my 'I actually know nothing about how running a site like this works' view anyway lol

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    On big box sites like SM, we work WITH them or FOR them?!
    Cause after i read the comments in that thread i mentioned above but cant quote in here, the message i got was "no matter how independent u cam models think you are, the person/ company who cuts the check/ makes the payment is still in charge and above you hierarchically, also sets the percent u going to be paid with from ur total sales", etc, there were many other things said in there; this is an universal thing with all cam sites that are not indie not just one site or another; this is also no news for me as i knew these already but is the 1st time i read it from the mouth of a site owner who was brutally honest.... thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sally Says View Post
    Sm also only gets 30 something % of many transactions don't forget, as affiliates get the other 30something.

    Ideally they would cut out affiliates, split 50/50 with models and find their own traffic. But with Google-gate how easy that would be I don't know. Models should still get some kind of referral fee, maybe base contests around referrals?

    That's my 'I actually know nothing about how running a site like this works' view anyway lol
    What would be AMAZING is if SM would be willing to run a program that teaches cammodels how to use the cambuilder program. Teach models how to become their own affiliates instead of just that cammodels crap. This way more models would take pride in their own brand and target the sort of traffic that they want. A few other sites are doing this.

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    On big box sites like SM, we work WITH them or FOR them?!
    Cause after i read the comments in that thread i mentioned above but cant quote in here, the message i got was "no matter how independent u cam models think you are, the person/ company who cuts the check/ makes the payment is still in charge and above you hierarchically, also sets the percent u going to be paid with from ur total sales", etc, there were many other things said in there; this is an universal thing with all cam sites that are not indie not just one site or another; this is also no news for me as i knew these already but is the 1st time i read it from the mouth of a site owner who was brutally honest.... thoughts?
    Are you really talking about the Dr Clockwork guy? He's not a site owner. What he has is not a camsite. He is an affiliate. Not a bad word affiliate but thats what he is. And not a very good one. All that crap he was talking comes from his need to be in charge. All the models logged in are from a studio that provides models to make it look like your site is occupied. Don't fall for his bs. I would never listen to someones pimptalk and then believe it as though its the gospel.

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    ^^^ Yes. I know what u saying but technically he was right with some things, just technically & my question is, aren't all these cam sites doing the same? How is SM for example any different than that guy?! We need a Union

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    Unfortunately I don't think that'll ever happen. As i was searching for info on affiliate and whitelabel marketing I came across posts about crakrevenue no longer being able to offer mfc affilate program. Apparently mfc twigged that models were using it to top up their income and decided to pull it. They really don't want us benefiting from that side of things. Stupid really as all the new sites that are upcoming (Manyvids, modelcentro, indiebill etc) offer incentives for referrals and are actively working with us.

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    Ty Susie xx, not sure if the Union thing could ever happen to unite us all over the internet but who knows? I personally am not important in adult business or even SM, only here in this forum i raised my voice & opened the SM Vent thread with the hope they'll read & listen if more of us talk about site issues, our needs & all but even myself i got tired at a point & slowed down cause i felt it's kinda useless to continue like a broken record.

    What pisses me off the most is the cut i get & the discrimination they make as they pay some nationals less, also when some of the members complain about the fees thinking i am charging too much (which i am not it's just them being cheap) but also thinking we get to keep all that money, when i tell some of these guys i actually am getting only 30% they baffled & yes i do tell them sometimes, to good regs & repeats just to make them aware how little i am getting from the money they spend on me (also to motivate them to spend more on me .

    Not later than last eve this cheap semireg visited my freechat waffling about me charging him 'a lot' last time we went excl, he made me sound like i was the greedy one, well i was bored & he pissed me off with his idiotic talk so i shown him his spending history telling him he is not a good spender anyway and 'look how much money i actually got from what u spent on me', he was very surprised saying 'oh i understand now, i was not aware the house is taking soo much bla bla' then he buggered off; at that point i did not even care to close a sale with the cheap idiot but i got pissed over my cut again. he is on my black list now & will be blocked directly next time he comes by. these guys come in my room and throw 1$ and think i am going to keep that dollar all to myself when i actually only get 30 cent from it bleah!

    Never ever in my long cam career i saw a site increasing the models cut but lowering it so 'crying' over the issue is just waste of tears IMO but it still hurts to see the discrimination in my case.
    (if anyone is unhappy with my post in here i move it to the SM vent thread no problem but i post in here cause we are on the subject now.)

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    No Kat.. You and everyone else gives voice on SW to what is happening- So do not be discouraged and Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drearea View Post
    I always feel like an old lady when I talk about "back before gold shows"

    It really was a better time
    Ha me too and yes, it was a way better time

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    Hey girls i need some help... I have Zero trafic i don't know why, I started months ago in streamate i was just online twice or so i had very little trafic that's why i left, now i''m back again and my trafic is ZERO I don't know what to do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbey20 View Post
    Hey girls i need some help... I have Zero trafic i don't know why, I started months ago in streamate i was just online twice or so i had very little trafic that's why i left, now i''m back again and my trafic is ZERO I don't know what to do...
    You have 0 traffic because other girls have been online and built time online and regulars. And of course, you were moved lower. It's normal.
    Stay online at least 6 hours per day/ 6 days per week with a fixed schedlue and you will see an increase of traffic in no time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutie101 View Post
    You have 0 traffic because other girls have been online and built time online and regulars. And of course, you were moved lower. It's normal.
    Stay online at least 6 hours per day/ 6 days per week with a fixed schedlue and you will see an increase of traffic in no time!
    soo its normal.. thanks for the answer

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    Its normal when you don't put any effort in for months and months, yes. You have to build up your placement.. it isn't just handed to you for showing up for a couple hours.

    I took several months off.. I had to deal with several days where I didn't even average 10/hr before my traffic built back up to an acceptable level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drearea View Post
    I always feel like an old lady when I talk about "back before gold shows"

    It really was a better time
    Same here.
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    Hey, I have some questions for those of you who get paid via paxum or payoneer - do you prefer one over the other, and what day does your payment usually hit your card? Thanks in advance!
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    HA HA HA darn contest again. smdh. Holidays used to be the bizness....

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    ^^^Just in case some ppl may not know....in most jobs in the country you get DOUBLE time for holiday/overtime pay. RAISE THOSE RATES ladies.....

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    I dont get why SM is having a three day contest when their site has so many issues. Do they not read these forums? The money would be better spent fixing the site.

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    I'm glad I no longer give any fucks about their contests. Will just be a regular work week for me. In fact let me go login so I can delete the message. I don't need their fuckery clogging up my inbox. Another day another $.

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    Hey ladies! New here.
    Could someone please explain to me the difference between premium/private & Exclusive? My Premium is $3.99 per/min, and Exc is $4.99 per/min.
    And can guys turn on their own cams? And if so, how often do they normally do that? I feel i'd be awk trying to actually talk to them & hear their voice.
    Thanks!

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    The only traffic tonight seems to be the techs working on the site. Not even tumbleweeds, pandhandlers or a mouse in sight. Oh, and a model logged in and wanted to know if I was having a good or slow night.... good times

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    Quote Originally Posted by christylive View Post
    The only traffic tonight seems to be the techs working on the site. Not even tumbleweeds, pandhandlers or a mouse in sight. Oh, and a model logged in and wanted to know if I was having a good or slow night.... good times
    Trueeee....I'm debating if I should log off and try other sites since I use SM's broadcaster .....

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    Thank you so much for the quick reply! You've explained everything perfectly.
    One last question, do you think my rates are a wee bit high? I think i'm a decently attractive girl and I don't see why i'd have an issue with those rates- I just don't know how high other model's rates are.
    And if it's my very first stream, is there anyway that the viewers are going to know that without telling them? Do new streamers even get good traffic? Pretty anxious...but excited.

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    Your rates aren't too high. That's around where I had mine set for a while, then I had it pointed out to me that I shouldn't be hesitant to raise prices, because men are willing to pay. Its your body, so ultimately you determine how much you want to work for. I have mine set at 5.99/pvt 6.99/exc and I've been doing really well there.
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