




Agreed. The site now says no nudity in free chat, the e-mail I have from Liz (which I would be happy to post) says you can flash your boobs in free chat but you can NOT hang out in free chat with your top off and you have to wear panties in free chat at all times. If you ask Chris who runs Streamates Twitter page he says you have to wear panties in free chat. Then you have performers who say they are told something different when they ask. If they are going to bother posting rules, then they should be clear about them and enforce them.
I understand this 100%, it is the rule of CYA. Jane brought up Liz and it became the usual Liz 'said this, well no Liz said that' pingpong effect that often happens between ppl who have relationship with her or other site reps, but often when she's discussed here it .... just sounds like she's basically SM model's house mom I guess, so I just dont give 'Liz said...' posts much universal credence, esp after the behind the wall fiasco. It is definitely a helpful gauge and record on an individual basis - like if someone got suspended they can point to an email from her giving to go-ahead, I get that 100%.
The rule is vague, it even includes 'no adult material', which can include... toys, dirty talk, ass cheeks, hard dicks in undies, I mean the rule as it stands looks like 'Your room should pass like PG standards of movies'... which is just the site protecting its own ass, I get it, every site does it, which is why following up with a site admin to ask 'hey what do you actually care about this month' (basically) makes sense, while the contract remains vague.
One site Im on says no explicit content 'at any time' - it isnt a CFNM site either, I mean wtf? So I mean yes, cam sites are vague. Im just pointing out that the rule is both vague (no nudity) and explicit (below the waist + bottoms arent specified). So in a halfassed way Im agreeing with Sarah and Jane simultaneously.
But bottomless? Look, I could have some leather chaps on or crotchless panties on while my clit and anus are a-swingin in the breeze and still have on 'bottoms' so that definition makes zero sense. It is vague, very intentionally vague for legal 'we're covering OUR ass' reasons I assume. And Liz telling some models one thing and another something else sounds just like... what House Moms do? Like appease, assuage, mediate, unless there is a big issue. Exposed nipples and ensuring your actual vaginal gooey yumminess are covered is not a big issue. .
I think the offline rule is "until we're terribly sued or featured in the media, just dont do anything blatantly litigious, like spread your vagina or have a xxx show. but if you do, we're too understaffed to focus on it, so send a screenshot idk maybe we'll deal with it if your room is on the first two pages, if it isnt? meh. we're tired".
Kind of like how MFC is now (allegedly) banning Thailand signups, I mean, something heavy has to happen to change the status quo of what is actually enforced. Anyone will push the line until theyre forced not to. Just the line says no nudity, doesnt specify below the waist which I think most still assume? But enforcing no tittays will never be a priority. Unless Chris Hansen does some expose of 13yr olds blushing to exposed nipples and blares SM's logo across NBC or something.
So, Jane, your wrath at [whoever your post was directed at] is so misdirected. Having models cannibalize each other is... tedious, like forest through the trees. Which is why.... Id wager to guess that the model you saw (or reported idk) Jane, isnt suspended? Right? So the site's definition of that sexy gap between "legally and what we actually care about" is the issue, not the performers interpretation.





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Poor Liz having to put up with all us crazy bitches. <3 Liz![]()
xoxo ~ Sarah
I feel sorry for her too. Not so much for her having to put up with 'all us crazy bitches' as much as 'all us crazy bitches' not ever being able to get any real support from SM and having to turn to her out of desperation to do the job that Streamate support should be doing.





Even if they said you could go bottomless but block your crotch with a hand or something, they would never say bend over and flash your whole pussy. Then turn around and rub your pussy right in front of your camera. That performer was SHOWING her pussy, you could see it all in full view. She moved her hand on purpose to show it and then put it back and rubbed it again. I also don't care if some of you get pissed that other performers will turn you in if they see you breaking the rules. The site has more moochers than I have ever seen in five years and you can be damn sure that doing shit like that is one of the reasons they stick around. You have NO right to break the rules and make it harder on other performers because you think the rules can be bent or the wording is not correct. Not showing your pussy in free chat means not showing your pussy, that's pretty clear.
I've actually heard rumours of girls getting suspended for TURNING OTHER GIRLS IN that were breaking the rules. I don't know if the rumours are true or not -- but it scared me enough to get me to mind my own business and not bother with what other girls do in their rooms since I wouldn't put Streamate past it.![]()





Yes! I remember reading posts on here about that a long time ago...that they will suspend models for reporting other girls...lol. Maybe they're getting annoyed with having their inbox flooded with complaints, and they feel like some of those complaints are from models just looking to get fellow models in trouble out of jealousy/hate? I'm NOT referring to Jane, by the way (I like Jane, and I'm sure she doesn't do that).
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Actually they have every 'right' to do it. They have the 'right' to make money any way they can. If you want to be mad at anyone you should be mad at the site for the fact that there is little to no consequences for the behaviours you detest that you believe have brought more freeloaders. And also for the wink and nod they give to the top girls who do break the rules and continue to allow them to do it.
At this point I don't understand the notion of getting upset over what other models do in freechat. SM has made it blatantly clear that they don't give a fuck about what goes on in freechat. Models use to go hard with reporting and screen shots. Where did that lead too? Hmmm I'll tell ya. That lead to gold, goldshows, gold tv shows, and more nudity in freechat.
Now I may not like or agree with what other models do in freechat but at this point its none of my business. I'll be damn if I let what others do in their room get me upset. Its pointless to get upset over things that will never change. I'm pretty sure that the only time SM will enforce their rules is if something major hits the fan. Until then....
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The reason I thought you were talking about me is because I did exactly what you described at first (but now you are saying she showed full pussy which I did NOT do), and you also said that the model posts here on StripperWeb and claims to be a higher earner and "brag". Not many posters on here are very open about their earnings... You also have said now that you think I "brag" so that even more make me think you were talking about me and perhaps saying you weren't because I called you out? I don't know. No I don't "BRAG" about earnings but I share them in threads that it applies to.... so yah when you are a target for flame because you do well you tend to recognize when people are talking about you.
I APOLOGIZE if I was incorrect about it being about me. That doesn't make me paranoid (thanks for the tweet about me tho) it makes me able to see when things look like they fit my description, and I'm not afraid to say hey wtf if I think something might be directed to me in a round about way. And even if it wasn't about me directly, I obviously do similar things that you dislike so it MIGHT AS WELL HAVE been about me all the same.
I think you may feel defensive also if you came here and it very much appeared like someone was trying to call you out. Besides, you know the model apparently posts here so it looked like you were TRYING to call someone out. So, yah.
xoxo ~ Sarah
On another note. Totally off topic. There's a model that is in the housewives category. She has the guy in the room that is like a horserace announcer. We watched her show one day.Holy shit!!! Now I haven't seen her on since. Just wondering if anyone knows if she hurt herself or got banned.
Also we have to say kudos to the couples that stay on for hours and hours. Nothing like 1min 40 sec shows to knock a dick down.



She isnt on all the time but I dont think she was banned and as far as hurting myself oh my goodness I wonder also.
Rules aside, I feel we do have a moral responsibility. I had to report and ban a 15 year old from my room yesterday, oh I know he may have been 'pretending' but then again he may have been real. Do we forget that there is a guest chat area? Where guys do not need to register? They can see everything that goes on in free chat. I know these kids can get porn free all over the net if they want, let them, personally the thought of a group of 14 year old boys sitting around a computer watching me naked turns my stomach. Ok maybe that's just me but lets play out a little scenario here>
14 year old, watching a girl naked and playing with herself in free chat and playing with his weener, mom walks in and catches him, she's furious that her little boy is exposed to this 'filth', question is what will she do about it? Well she could take it to the police, after all the boy is legally underage to watch porn. Who do the police go to? The site? To start with yes, but they have covered their asses with the disclaimers and rules so the site either bans the girl and tightens up the rules or gives the police all the details of the girl concerned, ban her and tightens up the rules. Meanwhile said girl is fined massive and put on the sex offenders register.
I know, it's highly unlikely this would happen, but it could. Still feel you wanna be naked in freechat?
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I never forget that there is a guest area. That is why I turned it off entirely so that people without a credit card can't see me. I don't think any other camgirl is morally responsible to make the same choice I did.
Since North American society still currently believes that camgirls have a moral responsibilty to keep our clothes on and not be camgirls; I must admit that I personally find it quite amusing to hear what is and isn't my moral responsibilty while I am a camgirl.![]()
^Turning off "free chat" only ensures that the guys w/o credit cards can't type to you. They can still sit in your room and watch free chat. I'm not referring to anything you personally may or may not do in free chat, but only clearing up what might be a common misconception. You don't need a customer account to sit and watch model rooms 24/7. There's no time limit, no registration needed. They simply can't interact w/ you unless they register.





That's the reason i dont feel comfy showing off much in freechat or doing gold shows cause the way i would need to hustle.
Cant get out of my mind the idea that maybe an underage person is watching me or who knows who else and i have no clue.
Is the same when i watch rooms w.o being a member (i dont have a member account & not able to have one anyway) and i do it thru a proxy server by the way & even my country is blocked by site i can still watch.
After working paid chat only for many years i just cant feel safe doing freechat.
Who knows how many people are watching me while my room is empty actually (no registered members in my room). Oh well...





How's the big SM ladies? I really don't want to, but I'm considering going back because I need to hustle and flow on into my own spot.
Totally get where you are coming from, I mean is it possible to do what we do and still have morals? I believe we all have standards/morals/limits or whatever else you might want to call them, but they vary from girl to girl, I would/couldn't do some of the things some girls do but I'm sure there are girls that wouldn't/couldn't do some of the thing I do, doesn't make it wrong or immoral. TBH I would never tell any one what they should or shouldn't do, but I'm sure a lot of ladies hadn't even thought of the legal side to this, so I felt it was my duty to point it out.
JAC, you are awesome and among the few that I admire and respect xxxx
MissD
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