I'm still getting system error and not letting me in...just trying to connect...
UPDATE: got in...yeah...


I'm still getting system error and not letting me in...just trying to connect...
UPDATE: got in...yeah...
Last edited by Cherrie05; 04-11-2013 at 10:19 AM. Reason: ....
Question about gold shows. How do you guys end your shows? Do you ride the timer out or make an exit speech before the timer runs out? I've done a variation of things, but not sure what the guys like/expect. My last show everyone tipped in well and I made my goal, they loved the show/commented, then I played with myself til the timer was up, and when I came back in free, my room was a ghost town lol.
idk maybe the came and went-literally lol.








if you were wondering why you have so many self righteous beggars in your room, look what advertising they are using nowadays to get people on SM:



I just play til the end but I step out of cam view at the last sec so the guys in the room don't get a free flash. Some guys stay in my room to thank me for the show and tell the guys who didn't watch how awesome it was lol
Hi everyone. I'm new to SW and to SM. My first night I learned to put up geo restrictions for my state as someone came into my room on SM who I had actually dated in real life. I was freaked out tremendously. I don't live in a rural area or small town either. I live in a huge metro area. So... even though most of you know to do this, make sure to put your restrictions up. I wish I had done that initially.![]()
Ummmmm what the entire fuck. I know that that's an affiliate or a whitelabel but seriously. We are not there for free and we aren't going to do whatever customers want for free. They need to go back to the old way of advertising because there current way isn't working. We need quality traffic not quantity traffic.








I have noticed that the number of beggars and disrespectful jerks has increased tenfold in the last 6 months! If it's because of these stupid advertising ploys, no wonder. Good luck converting the ones who think we are supposed to work for free and feel entitled to a free show. What do you want to bet they wouldn't work for free, but they expect us to?
"If you don't stand for anything, you'll fall for everything"
I kind of don't blame them for thinking or expecting us to work for free when its been advertised as such. I'm not exactly cheap but man I think I'd rather have SM advertise us as such over being free. If we were advertised as cheap then at least potential customers would know that they have to pay for something. Instead we have guys coming to the site thinking that were sitting on cam in our skimpies to be their (free) little love/sex slaves.
The video is annoying, but advertising 'free' chat is what all the sites do, and have been doing since camming began in the late 90's. Is it honest advertising? No, but it's been going on a long time.
What DOES bother me are the desperate 'Gold Show' models who are giving away nearly naked pre-shows in order to get the guys to go into the $1 Gold Show. So many of these pre-shows fail (who's going to buy in when they're getting a free show?). The model restarts 3x-4x before they even make a little bit to start the show. In the mean time the guys are busting a nut while watching these free shows. Heck, guys blow their load while just looking at pictures in a magazine of girls sucking cock, so why wouldn't he when she's doing it live for him in free chat? Duh!
To me it seems kind of sad, being reduced to giving deep throating BJ's or rubbing one out and 'squirting' in her panties as a way to lure guys into their shows. Some of the pre-show antics are so complete, and repeat every 10 minutes when the girl doesn't make her goal. When she finally does decide to start the show, all those cockroaches head over to our rooms. They'd like to see us doing the same kind of show, so the begging begins.
I feel that the 'freebie girls' are the reasons we have more guys lurking, begging for freebies than ever before. Monkey see, monkey do. They see girls giving it away, responding to requests in free chat, so they come in our rooms and do it too.




The bit in bold can be said for everything you just said...
The whole blaming other "desperate models" for your problems and belittlement of "to me it seems kind of sad, being reduced to doing such and such" blah blah blah, has been parroted a million times before too.
I have no problems my income on SM, I'm making more money than I ever dreamed possible. Honestly, I believe most of my success comes directly from my use of teasing in free chat, not doing entire shows there. I was simply rebutting the claims that it's the advertising of 'free chat' that is causing all the beggars in our rooms.
And my sincere apologies for using the term 'desperate' to those who are doing full shows in free chat. There's probably a better term than desperate. But you don't need to have studied marketing at Harvard to realize, as my grandma use to say, Why would they pay for the cow when they can get the milk for free? Instead, tell the shoppers how wonderful the milk will taste, how creamy it is, the nutrients it contains, how satisfying it will be when it takes care of their cravings.
That's Marketing 101: Sell the sizzle, not the steak ;-)
I stand by my opinion that the freebie shows are creating a culture of beggars in our rooms, but I've also come to terms with nothing is going to change, so I don't let it get me down. Girls giving shows in free chat is simply the new normal. I don't need to like it, just live with it.
Glad you brought this up. I've noticed it too. Guys tell me they've posted comments, and I can see the comment in the notes box, but it never appears in my comments area.
I've been envisioning some SM troll on the overnight shift, hunched over a desk in a dark computer lab, spending more time tapping into our shows than approving our comments. Then at the end of his shift going through and mass deleting rather than approving them. ROFL It helps me deal with the frustration of being out of control about it.
I saw a woman last night in her chat room showing her pussy in free chat. I couldn't believe she was doing it. I guess they don't understand the concept of "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?"




Awesome! Then enjoy your success, and be glad you're not one of those 'poor sad scraping-the-barrel' girls, because honestly, that's all this kind of discussion ever boils down to...
There's the "freebie culture", and there's also the "self-superior culture", which basically involves performers assessing the success (or lack thereof) of other performers ~ discuss it, point at it, laugh at it, sneer at it, gasp at it, critique it, gossip about it, etc etc, etc... And it usually comes from those who aren't doing too well themselves and are looking for someone to put the blame on. Sometimes however it comes from those who are already doing great. I've been there myself in my complaints about others - and it's all equally as fruitless, and rehashed and dead-end as the last time, the time before that, and the time before that.
There just comes a point when you either say "Oh, shit, I'm not doing too great - time to step things up, there's money to be made out there!" and you get your ass in gear. Or there comes a point where you simply say "Oh... wait a second, I'm actually doing fucking amazing, and I'm sitting here turning my nose up at "$1 for 100 mins GOLD show" ladies... Fuck this shit I'ma buy myself a new goddamn dildo!"
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