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    Quote Originally Posted by KittenGirl View Post
    Oh my God. I really hope something pulls through for you! I may start a petition to have streamate stop contests. This is horrible. I usually, even on my slowest days make about $30/hr. Where yes it's much lower than normal but it's much higher than being paid elsewhere. But this time it's $14/hr is my average this week
    No offense but why would SM consider a petition from a bunch of low earning models to stop their obviously highly lucrative contests?

    No one who is making top dollars on SM wants the contests to stop. They aren't going to listen to the girls making $15/hour when they have top models making like $20k in a week.

    I generally think petitions are bullshit but if you really wanted to try to get one going, I'd make it a more reasonable compromise, like a petition for 6 contests a year or something.

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    Oh the joy... SM's whitelabel site literally posted ALL 205 videos of mine FOR FREE on Jerkmate.com. Yes I reported this to Liz as a DMCA takedown request back in July when there was less than 10. Now they decided to add my entire PPV library... I sent ANOTHER email today. FFS.

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    If I was going to sign a petition it would be for sm to be more transparent about whatever the fuck is going on and what they are doing. A lot of this has to do with losing pornhub money yes? Do they have a plan? Just depending on established performers to bring their customers to the site from their white label? That percentage is gonna suddenly be iffy to me if they are not providing traffic sources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamiliam View Post
    If I was going to sign a petition it would be for sm to be more transparent about whatever the fuck is going on and what they are doing. A lot of this has to do with losing pornhub money yes? Do they have a plan? Just depending on established performers to bring their customers to the site from their white label? That percentage is gonna suddenly be iffy to me if they are not providing traffic sources.
    Mindgeek/TrafficJunky still has Discover and crypto payments as far as I know.

    But yes, I truly wish SM was more transparent to all of us. I feel like I only get answers if I bother individual employees/affiliates and that's not helpful for anyone and probably wastes their time too if they have to answer over and over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllePurrs View Post
    Mindgeek/TrafficJunky still has Discover and crypto payments as far as I know.

    But yes, I truly wish SM was more transparent to all of us. I feel like I only get answers if I bother individual employees/affiliates and that's not helpful for anyone and probably wastes their time too if they have to answer over and over.

    That still takes out a huge chuck of the market. Not to mention all the bad press
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    Pornhub is still generates traffic for streamate

    there are 4500 or more whitelabels.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erika_Xstacy View Post
    Pornhub is still generates traffic for streamate

    there are 4500 or more whitelabels.....
    Absolutely.

    It’s changed though. We used to be featured on their homepage with the videos. Now you have to click on a mirror site in a separate window. Guys who have accounts aren’t the problem, wherever they log in is where they log in. Catching new traffic is what makes 35% worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamiliam View Post
    Absolutely.

    It’s changed though. We used to be featured on their homepage with the videos. Now you have to click on a mirror site in a separate window. Guys who have accounts aren’t the problem, wherever they log in is where they log in. Catching new traffic is what makes 35% worth it.
    I would think it's safe to say not being featured on pornhub is pornhubs doing, whoever controls their site build

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erika_Xstacy View Post
    I would think it's safe to say not being featured on pornhub is pornhubs doing, whoever controls their site build
    Agreed but it is up to sm to find a replacement. Again if they want to move to a more model self driven traffic site totally chill just not for me at that percentage point.

    Pornhub had the most mainstream name recognition. Their downfall is definitely something that effects us given their previous partnership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonamiss View Post
    It's generally frowned upon here to publicly list the names of sites where guys can watch our shit for free, consider editing it out and just PM people who want the info.

    Related note: I have had 100% success getting all of my recordings from that site removed by emailing Liz with a list of direct links. They were all full length gold shows. I check that site frequently to see if any new ones have been recorded but I haven't seen one in over a year. I also found duplicates of those shows on other sites, which are relatively easy to find because they usually put your name in the title. Use Google and go to the "video" function of the search engine and type your cam name in quotations. Then make a list of all the links you can find and email them to Liz for a DMCA request. I'd advise not sending a bunch of individual links and actually take the time to search and compile as many as you can find so she/her team can do them all at once. I do it about twice a year and they've gotten 98% of my requests taken down everywhere.
    Thanks for the info. Didn't know that. I edited my comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonamiss View Post
    No offense but why would SM consider a petition from a bunch of low earning models to stop their obviously highly lucrative contests?

    No one who is making top dollars on SM wants the contests to stop. They aren't going to listen to the girls making $15/hour when they have top models making like $20k in a week.

    I generally think petitions are bullshit but if you really wanted to try to get one going, I'd make it a more reasonable compromise, like a petition for 6 contests a year or something.
    Well, I am one of the top earning, at least I thought. No offense taken. I usually earn about $150-$240/hr. Now I'm nowhere near $20,000 a week and I definitely DON'T think the contests should stop completely.

    But damn. I thought I was a top earner. My recent paychecks have been over $3,000. This is definitely not a high earner obviously. I thought that those $10,000+ a week girls were practically nonexistent, a pipe dream. After reading your comment I understand completely

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    Quote Originally Posted by KittenGirl View Post
    Well, I am one of the top earning, at least I thought. No offense taken. I usually earn about $150-$240/hr. Now I'm nowhere near $20,000 a week and I definitely DON'T think the contests should stop completely.

    But damn. I thought I was a top earner. My recent paychecks have been over $3,000. This is definitely not a high earner obviously. I thought that those $10,000+ a week girls were practically nonexistent, a pipe dream. After reading your comment I understand completely
    My bad, I must have misunderstood the comment of yours that I replied to. Sounded like you wanted the contests gone, and were making 15-30/hr during them so I figured your normal average was more like double. If you normally pull 150-240/hr and you're doing literally 10 times worse than that on contest week that is really unfortunate. I've never had *that* drastic of a shift in earnings around glitches or contests and it does make me wonder why some girls seem to get hit so much harder than others.

    But also, 3k a week is most certainly still high earning and waaaaay above the average model. Don't knock yourself or your efforts. The 10k+ a week girls *are* rare, I'm guessing it's probably the top 15 or 20? girls in a contest out of the thousands of models on SM. Someone chimed in to this thread a few days ago saying it takes $4-5000+ to place in the Top 50 of a week long contest, and I saved a screenshot someone shared from a 2020 contest earnings page where the model made $9500 and was ranked like #11. Based on past contest trends/data the minimum threshold to reach a certain rank seems to go up over time, so I'm assuming at least one or a few are now pulling 20k or very close.

    I'll add one more thing, which is that the screenshot I was referencing shows that the model averaged $135/hour but put in almost 70 hours of time online. I think a lot of the top models are actually averaging similar hourly rates as some of us who make "less" overall, but they put in an insane amount more hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SapphireXO View Post
    Oh the joy... SM's whitelabel site literally posted ALL 205 videos of mine FOR FREE on Jerkmate.com. Yes I reported this to Liz as a DMCA takedown request back in July when there was less than 10. Now they decided to add my entire PPV library... I sent ANOTHER email today. FFS.
    i would also advise blocking any user name that enters your room that says "jerkmate" or something like that or pornhub
    i always do that just to be on the safe side

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    Insane! I've been logged in for 3.5 hours. Premium front page placement (row #1 or row #2) and NO SHOWS!

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    Insane! I've been logged in for 3.5 hours. Premium front page placement (row #1 or row #2) and NO SHOWS!
    Insane is right! I'm smack dab in the middle of the front page, 3 hours online and I've only made $16. Is this a joke? like..? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamiliam View Post
    Agreed but it is up to sm to find a replacement. Again if they want to move to a more model self driven traffic site totally chill just not for me at that percentage point.

    Pornhub had the most mainstream name recognition. Their downfall is definitely something that effects us given their previous partnership.
    but if you use your cammodels link... lol Im just kidding.
    it is pornhubs popularity and there is no site like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erika_Xstacy View Post
    but if you use your cammodels link... lol Im just kidding.
    it is pornhubs popularity and there is no site like it
    Erika, I think I missed the news..why SM doesnt collaborate with Pornhub anymore? And since when?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luci Fer View Post
    Erika, I think I missed the news..why SM doesnt collaborate with Pornhub anymore? And since when?
    pornhub is still a whitelabel

    we are talking about the how pornhub displays/markets us and how customers didn't have to log into a external site making it one more step for customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emkato View Post
    Insane is right! I'm smack dab in the middle of the front page, 3 hours online and I've only made $16. Is this a joke? like..? lol
    good to know lol i do not take it personally damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

    i also increased my rates. anyway is slow at least i get paid more if i got shows! 1$ more on pvt and excl

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    So is traffic going to mysteriously come back once contest ends tomorrow lol.

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    the scan the site does before we are approved to stream is such a joke lol. its not even legit. I stepped out of frame completely and it approved my chair.

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    My bad, I must have misunderstood the comment of yours that I replied to. Sounded like you wanted the contests gone, and were making 15-30/hr during them so I figured your normal average was more like double. If you normally pull 150-240/hr and you're doing literally 10 times worse than that on contest week that is really unfortunate. I've never had *that* drastic of a shift in earnings around glitches or contests and it does make me wonder why some girls seem to get hit so much harder than others.

    But also, 3k a week is most certainly still high earning and waaaaay above the average model. Don't knock yourself or your efforts. The 10k+ a week girls *are* rare, I'm guessing it's probably the top 15 or 20? girls in a contest out of the thousands of models on SM. Someone chimed in to this thread a few days ago saying it takes $4-5000+ to place in the Top 50 of a week long contest, and I saved a screenshot someone shared from a 2020 contest earnings page where the model made $9500 and was ranked like #11. Based on past contest trends/data the minimum threshold to reach a certain rank seems to go up over time, so I'm assuming at least one or a few are now pulling 20k or very close.

    I'll add one more thing, which is that the screenshot I was referencing shows that the model averaged $135/hour but put in almost 70 hours of time online. I think a lot of the top models are actually averaging similar hourly rates as some of us who make "less" overall, but they put in an insane amount more hours.
    I highly doubt somebody makes 20k, yesterday with 800$ I jumped from 100 something to 50 something. With 3k I am at 60 something as of today. I think 10k would definitely brings you to the top 3 where you most likely will know how much you need for this #1
    But if you put something like 70 hours to get there, most likely you gonna rest for a week or so afterwards. In that case you’ll have to divide that gold by 2 or so. With this kind of math I see the point of working crazy hours for something like 15k but for the middles like me, somewhere between 50-100 not so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sersay View Post
    I highly doubt somebody makes 20k, yesterday with 800$ I jumped from 100 something to 50 something. With 3k I am at 60 something as of today. I think 10k would definitely brings you to the top 3 where you most likely will know how much you need for this #1
    But if you put something like 70 hours to get there, most likely you gonna rest for a week or so afterwards. In that case you’ll have to divide that gold by 2 or so. With this kind of math I see the point of working crazy hours for something like 15k but for the middles like me, somewhere between 50-100 not so much
    THIS!! People need to go easy on themselves during competition week because most of the time the top earning models don’t cam very much when there isn’t a contest - creating the whole “did you miss me” thing where clients then spend more. They then take a few weeks or a week off and don’t cam, and just live off the contest money for a while. So technically, “normal” models make just as much as they do, just spread over a more consistent time frame. Which is why I hate comparing myself to top earners ��


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    the scan the site does before we are approved to stream is such a joke lol. its not even legit. I stepped out of frame completely and it approved my chair.

    i think they manually review it

    i've been kicked out of shows and forced to do a reverification after being online for a few minutes

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    I highly doubt somebody makes 20k, yesterday with 800$ I jumped from 100 something to 50 something. With 3k I am at 60 something as of today. I think 10k would definitely brings you to the top 3 where you most likely will know how much you need for this #1
    But if you put something like 70 hours to get there, most likely you gonna rest for a week or so afterwards. In that case you’ll have to divide that gold by 2 or so. With this kind of math I see the point of working crazy hours for something like 15k but for the middles like me, somewhere between 50-100 not so much
    20k was a number i admittedly threw out there; i just know there have been past contests where 10k still isn't enough to rank in the top spots. i also have no clue how much someone needs to jump from say, number 4 to number 3. i figure the higher the rank, the more drastic the amount is needed to move up. the lower you are the easier it is to climb.

    i don't doubt the rare possibility of a 20k paycheck though, especially if you include the contest prizes. but even without that, consider that there are top models who are popular on other platforms like Onlyfans or are well known porn stars with their own fanbase. surely they have brought some of their own traffic to SM which means they get to keep 75% of transactions from a portion of their customer base instead of 35%. with that in mind I could reasonably see a few of them getting close to a 20k week. though like you said i'm sure the amount of hours takes a huge toll and they likely take a big chunk of time off.

    at the end of the day i don't care and am not personally comparing myself or letting it affect me or my hustle in any way; i'm a fairly lazy model that only works part time and could never compete with top earners. i'm in the top 500 right now and i'll be happy to get a couple hundred bucks prize for putting in about 25 hours this week. but i am still fascinated by the earning potential of some models and what it takes to get there. i love when people post about earnings purely because i'm curious, and sometimes it is a nice motivator to try to push myself even a little bit harder.

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