



SM main competitor is LiveJasmin. LJ offers between 30% to 80%, depending how much money you make. So for $1000 your commission would be 45%, which is more than what SM offers.
I have never worked on LJ, but many Europeans do and are able to bank there. So yes, by industry standards they are under their competition.
Another mention would be Flirt4Free, which offers between 27%-50%, depending how much you make.





that's good to know, i wasn't aware of the LJ pay structure. i've mainly avoided it because i've heard of other models getting flat out rejected upon signup for discriminatory bullshit like age or not having a specific look, and that their rules/standards are way more strict than SM (not to mention new models are required to stream for a minimum amount of hours at some offensively low rate that you can't change)... so one upside to SM is no major contingencies like this. however i just went over the LJ thread on here - it seems like they got new ownership last year, and models are commenting that it's a bit more relaxed now. so maybe worth a shot but still sounds like quite a hassle.
i'd be very open to SM getting rid of contests/bonuses and restructuring to a tiered payout system based on earnings, but i seriously doubt they'll ever consider it.


Tiered payout system would be awesome! I honestly can’t get behind them taking so much of my money! I’m literally baring my asshole to these dudes and getting paid hundreds and only see a fraction of it. Not cool! Instead of contest weeks and “bonuses” (read: refunds) they should just even out the score and give us more of our money all the time
the no chargeback is just a safety net that is nice to have as a model. its not a big deal but it is that week a model stays in exc for a hour and 3 months from later she got hit with a 1k chargeback.
They have to pay affiliates and Models get paid extra if someone signs up using their link.
they pay employees that keep the site running, i think there are 2 or 3 locations, legal ... all that good stuff that keeps the site going and of course the owner(s) didn't get in the biz to be broke
token sites are cool but most are a free for all and a lot of work
this is from my first post
affiliates are important and models that have cammed cams, imlive, ifriends (closed down) can agree theses sites promoted hard at first but now I don't see squat and models get the piddly traffic left over.
cams.com doesnt even make it easy to cam, damn obs, all that drama just to cam a dead site. and none of those cover chargebacks.

Big premium sites are also LiveJasmin and Flirt4Free but both have deals with studios (especially Studio20), that's why many europeans do well there. I'm not saying you can't make money there, yes you can, but just have in mind that many girls have the best traffic and best placement already set because they work for a partnered studio in Romania or Colombia.
One site that has a lot of traffic and is growing nonstop is Stripchat but yeah you gotta do it all on freechat :-( privates almost never happen





Question: Is the bonus added now onto our earnings or only if you do 25h or make the goal? Or maybe my math is off. I charge $9.99 and my pvt was 1.18s got a peeper. I made $4.54. 35% is $3.49.
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Thats what I got but I don't remember every second counting but just the next minute. You confirmed the answer though, thanks.
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Possible CPU/bandwidth issues
Anyone else? I am hooked up to my router and I am on Fios... my internet is fine and running fast but my stream keeps tanking.... there is no reason for this....





I have been on SM since January 2009. Everytime a guy came to your free chat they tipped minimum $2... I rarely had a customer who didnt tip and I don't recall all these ins and outs. It was a literal gold mine, the only cam site i ever tried in 20 years that I thought was the Bees Knees. There wasnt too many disrespectful guys that I encountered but that was my experience. I feel like it changed when PORN HUB became a white label and the introduction of Gold Shows and the Lush Vibe. Now men are accustomed to tipping $1 and don't want to go to private as much. Again, that is my experience.


I do agree with you 100% on every word you just said. Even when gold was first introduced not so bad constant back to back private shows, now it’s starting to seem amd feel like a token site but much worse. I had a mental breakdown and didn’t cam for like 2 years and the past year back, not the same site. Couldn’t have said it better myself




I was getting dressed after doing an exclusive show, and I didn’t realize that the timer went out while in the middle of putting my underwear on. I was lying on my back, holding my underwear trying to fix it with my legs a little bit open. There was literally no one in my room. No guests and no potential members. It was completely empty. I think you could see a little bit of my pussy, but it’s not like I had it all up in the camera and it was clear I was putting my underwear back on. When I looked up at the camera, I saw it and immediately cut off my stream. I’m scared now that I’m going to get an email later today saying that my account is banned. It was an accident and like I said there was literally no one in my room. I don’t even know why the timer went out that quick. I’m so paranoid now.


I wouldn’t mind streamate‘s contests if they were just like this bonus week this week. You don’t have to worry about competing for a spot to earn a certain amount of money. It just depends on how many hours you work and how much you earn. Then, regardless, you will get some type of bonus. If the weeklong contests were like that every month, then I’d be fine with that




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It's ok. I did the same thing except I was in a show and didn't hear them cut out. I forgot I had muted the audio. Had my ass in the air for awhile then I cut it off. I sent a message to support and tattled on myself and said it was a total accident. They sent me back a reply and said no biggee and thanks for reporting it. Send a message if you can with the details. It can't hurt. You should be fine





Bruh, nah SM's updates are just confusing. I too almost got shoved back in free totally unwarranted. Just gotta remember to hit the pause/break button which is barely visible and I no longer hear the clients end the show. There was major lag last night as if everyone was 1 min behind before the site refreshed. Shaking ass and saying hi to people who left 60s before.
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glad it’s not just me. I’m usually good at hitting the pause button, but I thought I’d be able to get dressed fast enough within the time. I was so certain that I still had about 15-20 seconds left, but when I looked up I was in free chat already! Now, after every show, I just hit the pause button regardless. And no matter what position I’m in I’m constantly watching the screen. Just to make sure that I catch when they log out of the show. I can still hear when a client logs off luckily. Honestly, 30 seconds is not enough time to get yourself situated to go back into free chat.
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