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    Quote Originally Posted by anonamiss View Post
    what "industry standard"? SM is a private-based/pay to play site so you have to compare apples to apples here. SM is clearly the leader in that regard; the other ones erika mentioned either have garbage traffic, pay an even lower percentage, or do not cover chargebacks. (edit: and if there are other/newer ones i'm unaware of that are actually worth checking out, i am all ears!)

    sure, token sites technically pay out 50% but the level of shitty freeloader traffic is insane. to me it seems way harder to convert a good paying customer on a token site than it is on SM. and fansites/indie directories might pay 75-80% but you're on your own for driving and sustaining your traffic.

    You can earn just as much or more on token sites, wether you do privates or not (and I’ve gotten a good share of privates on there in my few months so far) they cover chargebacks so what sites dont that everyone keeps mentioning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonamiss View Post
    what "industry standard"? SM is a private-based/pay to play site so you have to compare apples to apples here. SM is clearly the leader in that regard; the other ones erika mentioned either have garbage traffic, pay an even lower percentage, or do not cover chargebacks. (edit: and if there are other/newer ones i'm unaware of that are actually worth checking out, i am all ears!)

    sure, token sites technically pay out 50% but the level of shitty freeloader traffic is insane. to me it seems way harder to convert a good paying customer on a token site than it is on SM. and fansites/indie directories might pay 75-80% but you're on your own for driving and sustaining your traffic.
    SM main competitor is LiveJasmin. LJ offers between 30% to 80%, depending how much money you make. So for $1000 your commission would be 45%, which is more than what SM offers.
    I have never worked on LJ, but many Europeans do and are able to bank there. So yes, by industry standards they are under their competition.

    Another mention would be Flirt4Free, which offers between 27%-50%, depending how much you make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBerkinBagxxx View Post
    You can earn just as much or more on token sites, wether you do privates or not (and I’ve gotten a good share of privates on there in my few months so far) they cover chargebacks so what sites dont that everyone keeps mentioning?

    Yeah I'm pretty sure most sites cover chargebacks, except Live Jasmin

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    Quote Originally Posted by euro_princess View Post
    SM main competitor is LiveJasmin. LJ offers between 30% to 80%, depending how much money you make. So for $1000 your commission would be 45%, which is more than what SM offers.
    I have never worked on LJ, but many Europeans do and are able to bank there. So yes, by industry standards they are under their competition.

    Another mention would be Flirt4Free, which offers between 27%-50%, depending how much you make.
    that's good to know, i wasn't aware of the LJ pay structure. i've mainly avoided it because i've heard of other models getting flat out rejected upon signup for discriminatory bullshit like age or not having a specific look, and that their rules/standards are way more strict than SM (not to mention new models are required to stream for a minimum amount of hours at some offensively low rate that you can't change)... so one upside to SM is no major contingencies like this. however i just went over the LJ thread on here - it seems like they got new ownership last year, and models are commenting that it's a bit more relaxed now. so maybe worth a shot but still sounds like quite a hassle.

    i'd be very open to SM getting rid of contests/bonuses and restructuring to a tiered payout system based on earnings, but i seriously doubt they'll ever consider it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonamiss View Post
    that's good to know, i wasn't aware of the LJ pay structure. i've mainly avoided it because i've heard of other models getting flat out rejected upon signup for discriminatory bullshit like age or not having a specific look, and that their rules/standards are way more strict than SM (not to mention new models are required to stream for a minimum amount of hours at some offensively low rate that you can't change)... so one upside to SM is no major contingencies like this. however i just went over the LJ thread on here - it seems like they got new ownership last year, and models are commenting that it's a bit more relaxed now. so maybe worth a shot but still sounds like quite a hassle.

    i'd be very open to SM getting rid of contests/bonuses and restructuring to a tiered payout system based on earnings, but i seriously doubt they'll ever consider it.
    yeah a tiered pay system would be awesome but I also don't forsee them making changes. it's really discouraging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonamiss View Post
    that's good to know, i wasn't aware of the LJ pay structure. i've mainly avoided it because i've heard of other models getting flat out rejected upon signup for discriminatory bullshit like age or not having a specific look, and that their rules/standards are way more strict than SM (not to mention new models are required to stream for a minimum amount of hours at some offensively low rate that you can't change)... so one upside to SM is no major contingencies like this. however i just went over the LJ thread on here - it seems like they got new ownership last year, and models are commenting that it's a bit more relaxed now. so maybe worth a shot but still sounds like quite a hassle.

    i'd be very open to SM getting rid of contests/bonuses and restructuring to a tiered payout system based on earnings, but i seriously doubt they'll ever consider it.
    Tiered payout system would be awesome! I honestly can’t get behind them taking so much of my money! I’m literally baring my asshole to these dudes and getting paid hundreds and only see a fraction of it. Not cool! Instead of contest weeks and “bonuses” (read: refunds) they should just even out the score and give us more of our money all the time ����

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBerkinBagxxx View Post
    I think it’s a bit of a stretch to say they need to take 65% of EVERY models earnings to cover chargebacks. There are plenty of sites that don’t take 65% and still cover chargebacks. It’s a bit of a reach. I get girls like the site because of the traffic but let’s be honest, Streamate is taking advantage of us with that high of a cut into money we worked for. No models, no cut for them.
    the no chargeback is just a safety net that is nice to have as a model. its not a big deal but it is that week a model stays in exc for a hour and 3 months from later she got hit with a 1k chargeback.

    They have to pay affiliates and Models get paid extra if someone signs up using their link.
    they pay employees that keep the site running, i think there are 2 or 3 locations, legal ... all that good stuff that keeps the site going and of course the owner(s) didn't get in the biz to be broke

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBerkinBagxxx View Post
    You can earn just as much or more on token sites, wether you do privates or not (and I’ve gotten a good share of privates on there in my few months so far) they cover chargebacks so what sites dont that everyone keeps mentioning?
    token sites are cool but most are a free for all and a lot of work

    this is from my first post

    affiliates are important and models that have cammed cams, imlive, ifriends (closed down) can agree theses sites promoted hard at first but now I don't see squat and models get the piddly traffic left over.
    cams.com doesnt even make it easy to cam, damn obs, all that drama just to cam a dead site. and none of those cover chargebacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonamiss View Post
    that's good to know, i wasn't aware of the LJ pay structure. i've mainly avoided it because i've heard of other models getting flat out rejected upon signup for discriminatory bullshit like age or not having a specific look, and that their rules/standards are way more strict than SM (not to mention new models are required to stream for a minimum amount of hours at some offensively low rate that you can't change)... so one upside to SM is no major contingencies like this. however i just went over the LJ thread on here - it seems like they got new ownership last year, and models are commenting that it's a bit more relaxed now. so maybe worth a shot but still sounds like quite a hassle.

    i'd be very open to SM getting rid of contests/bonuses and restructuring to a tiered payout system based on earnings, but i seriously doubt they'll ever consider it.
    LJ is worth it

    I was blackballed for pissing off someone that I guess was important over a check number back in 2010 lol
    it was a nice side site. it seems to have improved a lot too. i dont hear many models making much negative over it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erika_Xstacy View Post
    LJ is worth it

    I was blackballed for pissing off someone that I guess was important over a check number back in 2010 lol
    it was a nice side site. it seems to have improved a lot too. i dont hear many models making much negative over it
    Hello. On Lj members wont pay more then 299 . 399 per min. Thats the main reason i dont get on there. They ask for profesional pics and videos. They wont accept webcam or phone content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candyland69 View Post
    Hello. On Lj members wont pay more then 299 . 399 per min. Thats the main reason i dont get on there. They ask for profesional pics and videos. They wont accept webcam or phone content.
    wow. i didnt realize they had a cap that low.

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    Big premium sites are also LiveJasmin and Flirt4Free but both have deals with studios (especially Studio20), that's why many europeans do well there. I'm not saying you can't make money there, yes you can, but just have in mind that many girls have the best traffic and best placement already set because they work for a partnered studio in Romania or Colombia.

    One site that has a lot of traffic and is growing nonstop is Stripchat but yeah you gotta do it all on freechat :-( privates almost never happen

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    Question: Is the bonus added now onto our earnings or only if you do 25h or make the goal? Or maybe my math is off. I charge $9.99 and my pvt was 1.18s got a peeper. I made $4.54. 35% is $3.49.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Erika_Xstacy View Post

    I hate giving my “experience” bc I’ve been with them since November 2008 lol 14 years almost every day sm has been graced by my presence lol
    thats such a long time. How has camming changed since then? A lot I guess. I was told in the 2000's everyone was making tons of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kortneykay View Post
    Question: Is the bonus added now onto our earnings or only if you do 25h or make the goal? Or maybe my math is off. I charge $9.99 and my pvt was 1.18s got a peeper. I made $4.54. 35% is $3.49.

    You need a minimum of 25 hours and $250 this week. If you don't each either there's no bonus. The bonus will be added in your next payout

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    Thats what I got but I don't remember every second counting but just the next minute. You confirmed the answer though, thanks.




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    Possible CPU/bandwidth issues

    Anyone else? I am hooked up to my router and I am on Fios... my internet is fine and running fast but my stream keeps tanking.... there is no reason for this....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halestorm View Post
    thats such a long time. How has camming changed since then? A lot I guess. I was told in the 2000's everyone was making tons of money.
    I have been on SM since January 2009. Everytime a guy came to your free chat they tipped minimum $2... I rarely had a customer who didnt tip and I don't recall all these ins and outs. It was a literal gold mine, the only cam site i ever tried in 20 years that I thought was the Bees Knees. There wasnt too many disrespectful guys that I encountered but that was my experience. I feel like it changed when PORN HUB became a white label and the introduction of Gold Shows and the Lush Vibe. Now men are accustomed to tipping $1 and don't want to go to private as much. Again, that is my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymous camgirl View Post
    I have been on SM since January 2009. Everytime a guy came to your free chat they tipped minimum $2... I rarely had a customer who didnt tip and I don't recall all these ins and outs. It was a literal gold mine, the only cam site i ever tried in 20 years that I thought was the Bees Knees. There wasnt too many disrespectful guys that I encountered but that was my experience. I feel like it changed when PORN HUB became a white label and the introduction of Gold Shows and the Lush Vibe. Now men are accustomed to tipping $1 and don't want to go to private as much. Again, that is my experience.
    I do agree with you 100% on every word you just said. Even when gold was first introduced not so bad constant back to back private shows, now it’s starting to seem amd feel like a token site but much worse. I had a mental breakdown and didn’t cam for like 2 years and the past year back, not the same site. Couldn’t have said it better myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBerkinBagxxx View Post
    I think it’s a bit of a stretch to say they need to take 65% of EVERY models earnings to cover chargebacks. There are plenty of sites that don’t take 65% and still cover chargebacks. It’s a bit of a reach. I get girls like the site because of the traffic but let’s be honest, Streamate is taking advantage of us with that high of a cut into money we worked for. No models, no cut for them.
    Which cam sites cover charge backs if you don’t mind me asking? I wanna sign up on other sites, but I refuse to go on a site that doesn’t cover chargebacks.

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    I was getting dressed after doing an exclusive show, and I didn’t realize that the timer went out while in the middle of putting my underwear on. I was lying on my back, holding my underwear trying to fix it with my legs a little bit open. There was literally no one in my room. No guests and no potential members. It was completely empty. I think you could see a little bit of my pussy, but it’s not like I had it all up in the camera and it was clear I was putting my underwear back on. When I looked up at the camera, I saw it and immediately cut off my stream. I’m scared now that I’m going to get an email later today saying that my account is banned. It was an accident and like I said there was literally no one in my room. I don’t even know why the timer went out that quick. I’m so paranoid now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleprincessbella View Post
    I'm still trying to figure that out. I am thinking about doing a token site like chaturbate. Honestly somewhere that doesn't do contests.
    I wouldn’t mind streamate‘s contests if they were just like this bonus week this week. You don’t have to worry about competing for a spot to earn a certain amount of money. It just depends on how many hours you work and how much you earn. Then, regardless, you will get some type of bonus. If the weeklong contests were like that every month, then I’d be fine with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymous camgirl View Post
    I have been on SM since January 2009. Everytime a guy came to your free chat they tipped minimum $2... I rarely had a customer who didnt tip and I don't recall all these ins and outs. It was a literal gold mine, the only cam site i ever tried in 20 years that I thought was the Bees Knees. There wasnt too many disrespectful guys that I encountered but that was my experience. I feel like it changed when PORN HUB became a white label and the introduction of Gold Shows and the Lush Vibe. Now men are accustomed to tipping $1 and don't want to go to private as much. Again, that is my experience.

    That's when I started too.
    I was at a Naked.Com studio, (and hating every minute of it). One of the models suggested that I try Streamate.

    She said that the customers were very polite.

    And they were.
    Nowadays, oh the irony.
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    It's ok. I did the same thing except I was in a show and didn't hear them cut out. I forgot I had muted the audio. Had my ass in the air for awhile then I cut it off. I sent a message to support and tattled on myself and said it was a total accident. They sent me back a reply and said no biggee and thanks for reporting it. Send a message if you can with the details. It can't hurt. You should be fine

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    Bruh, nah SM's updates are just confusing. I too almost got shoved back in free totally unwarranted. Just gotta remember to hit the pause/break button which is barely visible and I no longer hear the clients end the show. There was major lag last night as if everyone was 1 min behind before the site refreshed. Shaking ass and saying hi to people who left 60s before.




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    Quote Originally Posted by kortneykay View Post
    Bruh, nah SM's updates are just confusing. I too almost got shoved back in free totally unwarranted. Just gotta remember to hit the pause/break button which is barely visible and I no longer hear the clients end the show. There was major lag last night as if everyone was 1 min behind before the site refreshed. Shaking ass and saying hi to people who left 60s before.
    glad it’s not just me. I’m usually good at hitting the pause button, but I thought I’d be able to get dressed fast enough within the time. I was so certain that I still had about 15-20 seconds left, but when I looked up I was in free chat already! Now, after every show, I just hit the pause button regardless. And no matter what position I’m in I’m constantly watching the screen. Just to make sure that I catch when they log out of the show. I can still hear when a client logs off luckily. Honestly, 30 seconds is not enough time to get yourself situated to go back into free chat.

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