



As yet they haven't responded to me.
They're saying this on the News section:
"In the near future, models streaming in widescreen and HD will have priority in the sorting order. Make sure to update before that happens!"
Fat. Fucking. Chance am I updating at this point. I'll update when it keeps my placement to front page where it's been for ages. It would be decent of them if they gave us a date for when this will take effect: I know NOT to update YET because of this placement bullshit. So, I'm assuming that we are to expect that there will just come a day - again! - where I'll log on and get 0 traffic because SM decided that that was the day when they were actually going to enforce this thing they were saying they were doing?
Unless their placement doesn't get screwed, who is going to want to do this now and see their placement and earnings go bye-bye until one day, it's just back again? Like meanwhile, what about our bills, food? lol. You know... Those thing we're there to pay for in the first place?
How many of us will actually ditch Streamate if our placement goes right down once the widescreen goes full reta- oh, I mean, full-force?
If my placement remained as bad as it was, there is no way I'm sticking with SM. Which is a shame because I've made the most on SM than any other site.


Holy crap guys...
I joined right around the time the widescreen settings came out, so I've been using them pretty much the whole time, except for MAYBE my first week online. So, this whole time, I've been in widescreen, and thought I was doing well because i was always floating around on page 2. Well, for shits and giggles and experimentation purposes, I switched back to the old settings...
BAM!!! page ONE!





Ah, Streamate.
I see that you are back to your whole 'crashing when I enter private' phase.
Looks like this is going to be a LONG day.





So, I was just having a look around on SM with my customer account. So let me get this straight...
We get 35% of what the guys pay, which I've come to terms with! BUT when they pay our per minute rate they then have to pay an ADDITIONAL 20% on top of that for VAT!!!! I didn't know that before. I was checking out other girls' prices and it says that. So if your exclusive is eg. $5/min the guys are actually paying $6! :-O
So the percentage we are actually getting is... considering that they are paying 20% more than I thought they were... is really shit then? Like 29.66%
Last edited by Vlodina; 06-25-2013 at 11:38 AM. Reason: I had an additional thought.
What's VAT?
It stands for "Value Added Tax". The US is VAT exempt (though we have sales tax) which is why it isn't common knowledge. The VAT is probably only charged to people in countries that are not VAT exempt, like the UK. This tax isn't issued because SM wants to, it's government decision I believe because that is who it is directly paid to. This means not all guys are charged VAT or taxes on their shows. Just the unfortunate guys in the UK, CA and whatnot.



20 % seems a very high rate anyway
If I'm not mistaken the percentage is decided by the government. SM doesn't receive any of this tax as they pay it directly to the government. Porn is not a necessity for a person's survival, so that tax is understandably higher than say, food. Where I live in Canada necessity items like fruit and veggies are VAT exempt, but soda will be taxed 12%
(Totally off topic, but can I just say that that's really neat? In the states all food is taxed, but up here necessity food is tax free. Love it.)
Off topic: Groceries aren't taxed in the US. Just prepared foods.
Edit: Apparently it's by state ?
Last edited by Cam_Model_Jess; 06-26-2013 at 09:29 AM.





Dare I say..... SM was 100% normal for me yesterday.... traffic wise, member wise, money wise..... *FINGERS CROSSED* it stays that way!
I did 7 hours 15 mins yesterday.... going for 8 today!
xoxo ~ Sarah
We pay 24% VAT IN EE no matter what product we buythat's why life is soo expensive here and that's why 'normal' jobs wont bring enough money for me here. Luckily i dont pay taxes on camming income so this is again a plus for me tho i dont bank camming so a minus. Haha, does it make sense?
In the UK we pay VAT on so called 'luxery goods' some foods, bread, milk etc are VAT free coffee is VAT chargedNow clothing is VAT rated except childrens clothing, various baby goods etc but did all you ladies know that sanitary towels etc are VAT charged
Since when has having a period been a luxery??? It stinks (pun ntended), some supermarkets here have waved VAT on these products, but they shouldn't have to, the fricking government should stop this!
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We are so sick of sm that we have started talking taxes. lol
Move to NC and pay a TAX for every dam thing we buy. I pay tax to tan.
@Alice you make perfect sense. How you explained it helped meunderstand it.
OMG ive had it.At this point i wanna just be like i dont give a damn.Today was super glitchy for me.No matter if i used new or old encoder setting.I know its not my computer cuz i have an i7 processor and upload speed of 10mbs.Ive also notice my placement has dropped.I guess thats what i get for taking Geo restriction off and checking my placement.Ughh,I love you Streamate but you giving me gray hairs.I'm wondering why they keep canceling my TV gold shows every time i start?But im so happy they still compensate me for it .I dont hate you streamate cuz you are keepin a roof over my head .Maybe the reason im losing placement is because im not working as much hours as i used to on there cuz i had to add a few more eggs to my basket .Summer hurry up be over already.These extra hour or two im putting in is draining my ass.
Last edited by bigbootyjudy1; 06-26-2013 at 10:16 AM.
SM is asshat central lately! I'm thinking of giving Goldshows a miss for awhile. Any advice from girls only doing privates and exclusives ? Im a bit apprehensive that I might be be missing out by giving them up , but they have been a headache for me lately :/
Thank you Snowy. I have been doing them a long time, but in the last couple of weeks they have not been worth it. It feels like Im wasting so much time with them with little results. Im not one of those people that bank with GS.
Problem is , about 50% of peeps I have on SM do not do anything else but Gold shows. Telling them Im giving it a miss for a while might mean I will lose them permanently. Some actually join regularly and it would be a bit sad to see them go.
But I guess I got to do what's good for me. And right now , gold show countdowns and the whole shabang are soul-destroying for me![]()





i personally think that if they only tip in for gold shows then theyre not regulars.theyre cheap fucktards that dont like u enuf to be willing to pay u what ur worth. u'd be doing urself a favor getting them out of ur life then.
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