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    Quote Originally Posted by audritwo View Post
    UGH I just feel like that's a great way for dudes to exploit.
    I know, right? But just so you know this has rarely happened to me and I've done a fair number of blocks. I think one time it happened and the guy had had a connection issue. He came right back and finished it out.

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    I want to clarify my post before I take a SW breather Here's my original post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cam_Model_Jess View Post
    1. You don't; the site does (records your shows & sells them, and no you don't get a cut)

    2. Get a customer account & look at prices. For us to tell you about "pretty girls who get a lot of shows" we have to offer opinions on two subjective concepts. Get serious about your business, and do some reading and looking around.

    3. You don't keep ANY gold whatsoever if you cancel the show. The site doesn't differentiate gold earned for photos/vids & gold pledged toward the show, if the pics/vids were sold during a countdown. The girls are offering entire libraries of porn because they can no longer get a room full of guys to pledge $0.10-$0.50/min to watch their live show, so they now choose to bribe them with incentives, and if the guys pay for the videos, it gets the girls that much closer to their show goal. There may be other reasons behind it too.

    4. There are actually some threads on this. Direct download links thru SM e-mail.

    Edit: Thanks Vlodina. I didn't realize you'd already answered.
    1. The question asked was specifically about the "My Videos" section of the SM model profile. My answer was an answer to this specific inquiry. Other members offered additional helpful information about the "Gold Club," which, as far as I'm aware, is a different portion of the profile from the "My Videos" section. The "My Videos" section is (or at least was) for SM to record your sessions, upload them, charge members a monthly fee (for which you do NOT get a cut). I think someone mentioned that this program was abandoned by SM, but I do know that I did, at one point in time, have videos available there (not of my own choosing, and for which I did not receive a cut).

    2. My phrasing may have been offensive here. However, I do believe that anyone who does well does it through experimentation & experience. As has been said hundreds of times before around here, experiences/successes are different for everyone. Hustle, image, attitude, categories, and a million other things can stand in the way from your exact hustle working for me, and visa versa. I can't comment on "pretty girls" because who I think is beautiful is often not who other people think is beautiful, etc. It's a subjective concept. And... "beauty" is often not the deciding factor in whether or not a model does well. I still stand by my assertion that the BEST way to know the answer to this question is to get a customer account & look at other models. Compare your concept of beauty to their prices and their success, and go from there.

    3. I absolutely, in no way, made any mention of the models' inability to be successful as a result of their own actions. I was (possibly not strongly enough) implying that the "culture" of the site has led to this situation, in which many models have to now "bribe" customers to join their shows. I don't think that any model will say that she's giving away pictures and videos for fun or because she's voyeuristic in nature & enjoys the thought of giving away free porn. It's the name of the game these days.

    It took very little time for Gold Shows to evolve from a $1-$1.50/min enterprise of offering infrequent, cheaper shows to customers while still earning the same (and usually more) money in the same amount of time, while hyping up the customers & getting them excited about the site... to the state it's in today. Many performers are still successful with Gold Shows, and many do not give away pics & vids as incentives. However, I think it's pretty much a known fact that Gold Shows are consistently getting cheaper and cheaper (I regularly see $1 shows, and even $1 for more than an hour) and the guys have come to expect more for their money. $1 for 7 minutes of hardcore action is often not good enough anymore. "But can you squirt bb?" "What do we get if we pledge?" "What does the high tipped get?" (even if the high tip is only $3?) "Will you shoot rainbows out of your ass if I give you $5?" "Entice me to pay you $1 & we'll see..."

    Perhaps my choice of the words "choose to bribe" were loaded? Models DO make a choice to participate in a culture of devaluing their services. However, this is a choice LARGELY driven by necessity. I regularly see models offering HUNDREDS (yes, I'm serious) of videos just for the low low pledge of $1-$3. Pledge $1 and you not only get to see my 15 minute show, but you also get 500 videos of me. When I talk about "bribing" I'm not speaking of models who consciously make a decision to sometimes offer a small incentive. I'm talking about models who simply cannot get customers to pledge for their shows, NOT because the model herself is unattractive, unworthy, or bad at what she does, but because of the "free porn" culture, which exists not only on SM, but on all sites. And also because there is a prominent pattern of bargaining and game playing to which many customers seem to be attracted, like flies to shit. It's just the way it is. And it very rarely has anything to do with the performer.

    Alright, so I've clarified, and that's about all I can do. Yes, I'm sarcastic and snarky some of the time. But those who've been around here know that I'm not bitchy or generally even catty. I spend a lot of time helping other models when I don't have to, as do most of the lovely ladies here. I do let my annoyance get the better of me at times, but in this particular instance, my annoyance is mostly for the present state of SM.
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    I have been dealing with girls like you
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    I don't understand how you can be "super serious" about camming and not have a custy account. I got my boyfriend to sign up so I could see private rates my first day on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmberAustin View Post
    I don't understand how you can be "super serious" about camming and not have a custy account. I got my boyfriend to sign up so I could see private rates my first day on.
    Having a customer account is handy for a number of reasons, not least of which is that in addition to shooting rainbows out of your cooch you are also providing customer service and tech support. Knowing the site from the customer's POV will make your life a little easier.

    For example, a lot of new guys don't realize that they will get a pop-up window after hitting the "Enter My Live Private Show" button that shows the rates. When I explain this to them–that they will have a chance to review the options first–they are always grateful and feel better about starting a show. (Of course some leave when they see my rates, LOL!)

    What I don't know how to explain is why new guys don't have the option to go exclusive before they've spent money in a regular/premium private or giving gold in chat. I wish I know more about what they have to do or how much or they have to spend before it's enabled.

    I can also ask this question on the AWM tumblr page but if anyone here can enlighten me I'd be obliged. It comes up almost every time I am on. :/
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    what movie is this from?
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    I don't have a custy account as I don't think it makes since for me to get one. I don't look at other girls' prices, I mean, add money and let's go bb, that's all I care about




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    Wow, she is fast! Vanessa's answer about the block sessions are here: http://awmodel.tumblr.com/post/62178...block-sessions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowy0Star View Post
    what movie is this from?
    From Zoolander. "It's Hansel. He's so hot right now!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by kortneykay View Post
    I don't have a custy account as I don't think it makes since for me to get one. I don't look at other girls' prices, I mean, add money and let's go bb, that's all I care about
    only use my custy account to look at my placement. But I'm the same way, it's their business what they charge. If I do watch a model I usually log off and see how their room is doing. Out of respect because it pisses me off when people just sit in my room and do nothing.

    My partner uses it if he needs to get a hold of me the quickest if I'm streaming. So it's a great way of quick communication when I'm "busy"





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    Quote Originally Posted by Thymian View Post
    Wow, she is fast! Vanessa's answer about the block sessions are here: http://awmodel.tumblr.com/post/62178...block-sessions
    THE WOMAN IS FUCKING MAGICAL! I've said this thousands of times.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Bird of Paradise View Post
    From Zoolander. "It's Hansel. He's so hot right now!"
    giphy.gif

    It is almost embarrassing for me to admit how much I love that movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bird of Paradise View Post
    From Zoolander. "It's Hansel. He's so hot right now!"
    I got so excited last week when I saw that Zoolander was on netflix. I have already burned out two dvd's


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    Quote Originally Posted by audritwo View Post
    My partner uses it if he needs to get a hold of me the quickest if I'm streaming. So it's a great way of quick communication when I'm "busy"
    That is genius. I love creative solutions like this! I use mine to tag myself and swap tags with other models, to make sure everything is working when people say the private button didn't work (which I know is a lie but sometimes when it's slow I like to make sure, LOL!) and of course I also tip my favorite models, especially the ones whose rooms I lurked in when I was learning the ropes.

    I've also tipped into my own gold shows out of desperation when it seemed the room wanted a show but no one wanted to be the first bid to break the ice (when you sign up with your affiliate link you obviously will only be paying a fraction). This may sound crazy but sometimes it did work, and I only did it during some really desperate times I experienced in June, when my placement mysteriously tanked. There were a couple of days I just logged in so I could talk to myself in free chat. Thank the Cam Goddess that time is behind me and my placement is back on track.

    I went into my private and exclusive chats to take screen shots of the interface so if someone was trying to do phone or C2C I could tell them exactly what to look for. Oh, and it's the only way you'll be able to read all your comments once you have more than one page of them, short of going into every paid customer log and seeing if they left one.

    Also, I messaged myself so if I want to send out a group message from my model account, I send it to my custie account which is my performer name, and just bcc the rest. (I am sure these details don't matter to a lot of people but it's just sort of an extension of the workflow I used to have in my vanilla advertising job.)

    It's rare that I ever look at anyone's rates anymore, so my custie account is more of a tool for maintaining my niches and monitoring site issues. Of course, I realize you can still bank on SM without doing any of the things I mentioned but it's just my nature to work this way.

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    ^ Hmm, that's a lot of great advantages I hadn't considered before...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thymian View Post
    Oh, and it's the only way you'll be able to read all your comments once you have more than one page of them, short of going into every paid customer log and seeing if they left one.
    I can see all my comments without a custie account, at least I think I can? You just click "see more comments":

    http://yourname.cammodels.com/comments/yourname/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thymian View Post
    That is genius. I love creative solutions like this! I use mine to tag myself and swap tags with other models, to make sure everything is working when people say the private button didn't work (which I know is a lie but sometimes when it's slow I like to make sure, LOL!) and of course I also tip my favorite models, especially the ones whose rooms I lurked in when I was learning the ropes.
    ooooooo I never thought of tagging myself. Cause I can up to five times.





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    Can someone PLEASE post the old Streamate Encoder settings before widescreen? It would be really appreciated and I can't find them.

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    I can see all my comments without a custie account, at least I think I can? You just click "see more comments":

    http://yourname.cammodels.com/comments/yourname/
    It's always asked me to log in when I click see more comments... maybe I was doing it wrong, LOL.

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    snowy might still have them , they use to be in her siggy.. I don't see them now but she did have them.
    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    Can someone PLEASE post the old Streamate Encoder settings before widescreen? It would be really appreciated and I can't find them.

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    yeah i still have them i thought no one needed them anymore so i took it out . but heres the download link murpheys law man i just took it off yesterday because no one mentioned it for awhile or was no one mentioning it because it was my siggy? I'll see if i have enuf symbols in my siggy to put it back.

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0iy...dnRGo3LVk/edit

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    I had enuf spare symbols to put it back in my siggy. w00t
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    Thank you


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    I do. I'll PM them to you. One sec.

    Edit: Nevermind. I can't figure out how to PM a photo, but here they are.

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    I had widescreen for a while but I have way better traffic when I am in the old settings and better placement too. I wonder if all the site issues have to do with all the widescreen upgrades.



    Quote Originally Posted by Snowy0Star View Post
    yeah i still have them i thought no one needed them anymore so i took it out . but heres the download link murpheys law man i just took it off yesterday because no one mentioned it for awhile or was no one mentioning it because it was my siggy? I'll see if i have enuf symbols in my siggy to put it back.

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0iy...dnRGo3LVk/edit

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    I had widescreen for a while but I have way better traffic when I am in the old settings and better placement too. I wonder if all the site issues have to do with all the widescreen upgrades.
    who knows its SM it could be anything. I just wish they stopped posting on dating sites everyone is feeling it this month its fine i guess when thyere doing it on top of other things but it feels like its all theyre doing right now and thats a bad move. the ones who dont have a steady fanbase/new are hurting right now
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