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    I understand how you Gold Show girls are upset about $0 shows...but that's kinda how us girls who refuse to do cheap, less than $1 a minute shows felt when girls started doing them. If everyone would value themselves more then we'd still be getting back to back private shows at $4.99 a minute because guys wouldn't have been spoiled by cheap gold shows. It sucks, but once we start cheapening ourselves it's all downhill from there. Regardless of the $0 shows...I'm still doing well by only offering privates and exclusives.


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    ^^^I with you, solo. I'd rather start a petition and boycott for a higher percentage, like, at least 50%. I sympathize with you ladies who do gs but they don't affect me personally because I do private based fantasies only.
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    Does the $0 GS only affect girls that do vanilla shows? It sure seems like it. I know I may be preaching to the choir but I would advise girls who have their own niche to not offer gold shows. Save the novelty acts for private and exclusive only, PLEASE!
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    I agree, petition for a higher percentage before anything else. I don't really care about 0$ Goldshows because I've switched my focus to more private and exclusive based.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoloDesire View Post
    I understand how you Gold Show girls are upset about $0 shows...but that's kinda how us girls who refuse to do cheap, less than $1 a minute shows felt when girls started doing them. If everyone would value themselves more then we'd still be getting back to back private shows at $4.99 a minute because guys wouldn't have been spoiled by cheap gold shows. It sucks, but once we start cheapening ourselves it's all downhill from there. Regardless of the $0 shows...I'm still doing well by only offering privates and exclusives.
    I agree with this. It's not about shaming, but it's about valuing a specialty service: sex work.

    But yes, pvt/excl has been so awesome for me lately. The appeal of camming is that interaction with the customer, and so guys still want you to themselves.

    If you like the gold show style, but find you can't sucessfully meet your goals anymore, one option would be to treat pvt more like a gold show. Do what you like in pvt, and they get to watch you. If a guy wants to control your show, or have you all to himself he can go excl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marina Starr View Post
    Does the $0 GS only affect girls that do vanilla shows? It sure seems like it. I know I may be preaching to the choir but I would advise girls who have their own niche to not offer gold shows. Save the novelty acts for private and exclusive only, PLEASE!
    My "vanilla" is fetish

    I do get what you are saying. I refuse to hold true fetish gold shows.

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    I'm so happy to be back in this thread, y'all! SM just approved me and I'll be starting tomorrow once I download the encoder and shit. I've already written to have my homepage pic be my bio pic rather than live captures, I've uploaded more photos for review, and I've blocked the entire country of Cameroon (lol) so that hopefully I won't be used in advertisements/be uploaded to tube sites again/will be able to stay as low key as possible while still making decent $. If I can make $100/day every day I will be more than satisfied with that, and I'm scheduled to work 5 hour shifts. I used to work 9a-2p so I figured I'd go back to that. Mornings may be slower for some but there are less girls online so I was always on the first page, row 4-6 whenever I worked, and usually in the #1 spot in the ebony category, definitely in the top row depending on who else was on. I don't have a member acct so I don't think I'll be able to check my own placement since I have geo-restrictions this time around. Maybe that's a good thing Anyway I just wanted to say Heeeeeeey It feels like I am coming back home. I started on SM in April 2010, it was my first cam site ever, I knew nothing, hadn't discovered SW yet, my first paycheck was all of $10 and I was so happy with that This time around I know what I'm doing and just can't wait to get 'er done! Thanks to all of you who encouraged me to wait out my studio contract and sign back up on my own. I haven't been this excited over my camming career in a long, long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by temptingmodel View Post
    My "vanilla" is fetish
    You just got me thinking along the lines of... masturbating on cam IS a friggin' fetish!

    "Ohh I shouldn't charge too much, I only do vanilla fuckshows myself, after all." like - ONLY?! In the earlier days of camming, that WAS what you would class as fetish "enough" to charge well for! XD

    It's getting so diverse now it's like.. well, hmm, I don't gag myself with a 9 inch cock, thrust a robotic dildo into my ass or spray Niagara Falls from my pussy.. I'm so "vanilla" so I'll charge less, lol.


    There are still girls who charge high for "vanilla" though, right?
    I'm still of the belief that success in camming is mostly about on-cam persona and character. I think it's easy to get bogged down with "hardcore fetishes=MONEY" as the sort of be-all-end-all of this, but it still stands that one of the most successful camgirls on SM can make a ton doing carpentry or general DIY and then maybe do a fuck show at some point. She's all about "saying no" - as she said in her profile - getting guys on the edge of their seats hoping to see her do *anything* sexual, it seems. It's the husssstlllle.




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    Quote Originally Posted by gingerstripper View Post
    food for thought... $0 gold shows... cant we all just complain to sm.. about how this is affecting everyone and the big picture of this? Isn't there something we can do.. Put our foot down.. and maybe start a petition to stop 0 dollar gold shows. It shouldn't be free... we cannot compete with 0 dollar gold shows bbs... unless we all start giving it out for free. we neeeeeeed to talk to sm or something.. maybe something can be done?
    I honestly don't think it would matter if hundreds of models contacted them or signed a petition, it won't matter. This is the direction they obviously want to be moving. Lots of sites are moving that way, or already have implemented features like this. LiveJasmin just started a new site with the entire focus being the whole tipping/gold show type of thing.

    Don't get me wrong, I HATE it.

    But, I quit doing gold shows for the most part since the $0 shows started becoming rampant. I did 3 gold shows this entire pay period. I'm working on phasing them out completely. I've noticed I've been making A LOT more in privates and exclusives and even raised my rates, so while most of us hate $0 shows.... there is still money to be made on the site, if you are willing to stick it out. Lots and lots.

    I think that performers who exclusively do gold shows are going to eventually have to move to doing $0 shows to keep up. Or, go back to the old way of camming - waiting for privates and exclusives.
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    I'm glad you do! I'm sure you offer your own kind of fetish IN private or exclusive

    I guess I should be a little more specific so here we go, if you are a chick with dick, there is no need for you to do GS. I mean that in the most loving way.
    Quote Originally Posted by temptingmodel View Post
    My "vanilla" is fetish

    I do get what you are saying. I refuse to hold true fetish gold shows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    You just got me thinking along the lines of... masturbating on cam IS a friggin' fetish!

    "Ohh I shouldn't charge too much, I only do vanilla fuckshows myself, after all." like - ONLY?! In the earlier days of camming, that WAS what you would class as fetish "enough" to charge well for! XD

    It's getting so diverse now it's like.. well, hmm, I don't gag myself with a 9 inch cock, thrust a robotic dildo into my ass or spray Niagara Falls from my pussy.. I'm so "vanilla" so I'll charge less, lol.


    There are still girls who charge high for "vanilla" though, right?
    I'm still of the belief that success in camming is mostly about on-cam persona and character. I think it's easy to get bogged down with "hardcore fetishes=MONEY" as the sort of be-all-end-all of this, but it still stands that one of the most successful camgirls on SM can make a ton doing carpentry or general DIY and then maybe do a fuck show at some point. She's all about "saying no" - as she said in her profile - getting guys on the edge of their seats hoping to see her do *anything* sexual, it seems. It's the husssstlllle.
    I think you're right. There's still money to be made for vanilla models if you know what you're doing. I would say this might be a bad time to start out as a vanilla model, but if you've been one for a while.... I don't think there is reason to worry. I charge $5.99/11.99 and the most "extreme" I do is anal.... LOL....
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    THIS! I made the worst mistake by doing a few GS. Never again!
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    I've noticed I've been making A LOT more in privates and exclusives and even raised my rates, so while most of us hate $0 shows.... there is still money to be made on the site, if you are willing to stick it out. Lots and lots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CourtneyRaine View Post
    I'm so happy to be back in this thread, y'all! SM just approved me and I'll be starting tomorrow once I download the encoder and shit. I've already written to have my homepage pic be my bio pic rather than live captures, I've uploaded more photos for review, and I've blocked the entire country of Cameroon (lol) so that hopefully I won't be used in advertisements/be uploaded to tube sites again/will be able to stay as low key as possible while still making decent $. If I can make $100/day every day I will be more than satisfied with that, and I'm scheduled to work 5 hour shifts. I used to work 9a-2p so I figured I'd go back to that. Mornings may be slower for some but there are less girls online so I was always on the first page, row 4-6 whenever I worked, and usually in the #1 spot in the ebony category, definitely in the top row depending on who else was on. I don't have a member acct so I don't think I'll be able to check my own placement since I have geo-restrictions this time around. Maybe that's a good thing Anyway I just wanted to say Heeeeeeey It feels like I am coming back home. I started on SM in April 2010, it was my first cam site ever, I knew nothing, hadn't discovered SW yet, my first paycheck was all of $10 and I was so happy with that This time around I know what I'm doing and just can't wait to get 'er done! Thanks to all of you who encouraged me to wait out my studio contract and sign back up on my own. I haven't been this excited over my camming career in a long, long time.
    I'm so excited for you Courtney! With 5 hour shifts I bet you'll do 500/week very soon, if not immediately. Play around with pricing and fetishes and you'll do great. I'm finally in a place where I can put SM back to being my main site and I'm so excited too! Ready to build up my regulars again.


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    and guys are still willing to pay for gold shows Just put a number n the box. I tried a 1buck buy and made goal.. I just could not do a zero. no.

    They will pay or they will not play

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    Quote Originally Posted by CourtneyRaine View Post
    I'm so happy to be back in this thread, y'all! SM just approved me and I'll be starting tomorrow once I download the encoder and shit. I've already written to have my homepage pic be my bio pic rather than live captures, I've uploaded more photos for review, and I've blocked the entire country of Cameroon (lol) so that hopefully I won't be used in advertisements/be uploaded to tube sites again/will be able to stay as low key as possible while still making decent $. If I can make $100/day every day I will be more than satisfied with that, and I'm scheduled to work 5 hour shifts. I used to work 9a-2p so I figured I'd go back to that. Mornings may be slower for some but there are less girls online so I was always on the first page, row 4-6 whenever I worked, and usually in the #1 spot in the ebony category, definitely in the top row depending on who else was on. I don't have a member acct so I don't think I'll be able to check my own placement since I have geo-restrictions this time around. Maybe that's a good thing Anyway I just wanted to say Heeeeeeey It feels like I am coming back home. I started on SM in April 2010, it was my first cam site ever, I knew nothing, hadn't discovered SW yet, my first paycheck was all of $10 and I was so happy with that This time around I know what I'm doing and just can't wait to get 'er done! Thanks to all of you who encouraged me to wait out my studio contract and sign back up on my own. I haven't been this excited over my camming career in a long, long time.
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    I popped on SM for a while and was having issues with my cam randomly stuttering even though I have an excellent internet connection. It has been doing that on and off lately and I've been wondering if it's the site or something else. Anyone else have this problem? Sometimes it will completely freeze up for several seconds. I'm using the encoder if that matters. I feel bad for my customers when this happens during a show. I know I wouldn't want to pay money to see that.
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    Have you try to uninstall and reinstall the Encoder? That works for me!
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    I popped on SM for a while and was having issues with my cam randomly stuttering even though I have an excellent internet connection. It has been doing that on and off lately and I've been wondering if it's the site or something else. Anyone else have this problem? Sometimes it will completely freeze up for several seconds. I'm using the encoder if that matters. I feel bad for my customers when this happens during a show. I know I wouldn't want to pay money to see that.
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    I haven't, but now I will. The encoder sometimes stops responding when I try to turn it off too. Hopefully that's the problem and this will be an easy fix. Thanks!

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    i actually did good today. made over my daily goal.. was like 100 away from my weekly goal.. so not bad.. not bad

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    I've been experiencing problems tonight with being disconnected and lots of lag off and on. I'm think maybe this is why not many models are on SM tonight.. Now it's not letting me stream at all it just keeps loading but it never actually connects the live stream. Now I remember why I haven't been on SM lately.. Sigh :/

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    I am really worried about sm long-term. At first I was thinking oh the site is going to be here awhile because it has been here for 10 yrs and its a great money making site. Now the 0 gold shows weren't bothering me too much because I do not see them working for a long term thing maybe a day when you are bored you could do it to play around or something but not daily. The thing I am worried about is the raffles. Do any of u think sm will still be sm 10 yrs from now 15? I love sm I wanted to work sm till I was like 35 if I could and have a college degree on the side but I am scared now. DO you guys think it will be mfc? I hate the idea of a raffle I will not do them and if I wanted to I would be on mfc that's why I chose sm sit back wait and get a show lol. I don't like the idea of giving vids away who knows who u r giving them to and pics maybe but I don't have time to sit around and take good pics. Please someone let me know what u think personally. I like pvts and exclus and thats what I want not raffles and giving away free shows.

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    Honestly, I've been extremely loyal to SM over the years, but if SM keeps up the free shows and raffles, I'm going to go indie and steal every single customer I can until they ban me. I signed up for SM, not MFC, and if it turns into MFC, I have no reason to stay there. Fuck that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aqua View Post
    Honestly, I've been extremely loyal to SM over the years, but if SM keeps up the free shows and raffles, I'm going to go indie and steal every single customer I can until they ban me. I signed up for SM, not MFC, and if it turns into MFC, I have no reason to stay there. Fuck that.
    Wow, I have been thinking the exact same thing lately, stealing customers til I get banned and all.

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    Havent 0 buy ins been around forever though? I think the models just decided to take advantage of it sadly.. I hope they dont stay forever in that direction. I think MAYBE they might fix that error i dont see how those shows help them either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brittany_bitch View Post
    I am really worried about sm long-term. At first I was thinking oh the site is going to be here awhile because it has been here for 10 yrs and its a great money making site. Now the 0 gold shows weren't bothering me too much because I do not see them working for a long term thing maybe a day when you are bored you could do it to play around or something but not daily. The thing I am worried about is the raffles. Do any of u think sm will still be sm 10 yrs from now 15? I love sm I wanted to work sm till I was like 35 if I could and have a college degree on the side but I am scared now. DO you guys think it will be mfc? I hate the idea of a raffle I will not do them and if I wanted to I would be on mfc that's why I chose sm sit back wait and get a show lol. I don't like the idea of giving vids away who knows who u r giving them to and pics maybe but I don't have time to sit around and take good pics. Please someone let me know what u think personally. I like pvts and exclus and thats what I want not raffles and giving away free shows.
    It's going to be okay Try to relax and proceed as normal. Change up your hustle/method if you aren't making the money you want, read through the tips here.

    Pvt/Excl is still fine for a lot of models on SM. Even if SM goes down or becomes super shitty, there will be other sites. Private based sites are popular for a reason, not every guy wants a public/shared show.

    If you are really worried though, get a vanilla back up plan/job. The sex industry isn't easily predictable, all you can do is adapt to changes. No one can predict the state of SM or camming in 15 years.

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