I don't see how it couldn't happen. Models won't keep restarting GS or only doing them for 20$ put in when they can make way more in pvt/excl, doesn't make any sense.
I don't see how it couldn't happen. Models won't keep restarting GS or only doing them for 20$ put in when they can make way more in pvt/excl, doesn't make any sense.





i dont think theyd ever do that sad to say. for the same reason they keep the lowest at .99 tho i think they should make the floor be 2.99 - 3.99 IMO but as my step dad says "ill take a buck from anybody" sm wants there to be as many ways to make money as possible - they're a business its all about their bottom line and making it as easy as possible to get that green
I don't think that's ever going to happen. Some girls still make a ton with gold shows. But most models (for whatever reason, doesn't make them bad camgirls) can bank far easier with pvt/excl so I think what we will see is a handful of girls continuing to do GS and hitting those high numbers, and the majority of models will stop trying to start GS because they realize it isn't profitable anymore.
This kind of ties into what I was saying on the Raise your Rates thread about trying to sell to 1 guy vs trying to hustle 15 or 30 guys. Mass appeal plays a factor, length of time on the site/building up a fanbase probably matters a lot, having guys drop a ton to help you meet your goals. There are a lot of things that need to be going on to hit 200$ gold shows consistently all night.
Honestly unless you realllllly love the format of a GS (and don't get me wrong, I love the control it offers) there is no reason to take a pay cut and do shows for less than your goal or to restart over and over. It's such a waste of time and it just makes you pissed off and the guys pissed off and everyone gets frustrated and boners diePlus I find you don't build regulars with GS, which is where the big consistent $$$ is.
Guys are getting such a ridiculous discount from GS, it's live porn for pennies and if they aren't going to try and help you hit a reasonable goal quickly and easily, fuck them. They can pay per minute and stop wasting your time.





Thats why I try to not restart, take the piddly I make in free and then bank it IN THE SHOW
Sometimes I dont have a countdown
Fuck that wasting time, they will follow. Men do not put in bc of the start overs, they wait to see if the model is going to do the show
They usually pile in, no problem
Most the time its a short show for 100 gold, I usually get that 100. 5, 6, 7 mins for 100? BSing and joking w customers.
I figure If Im going to hustle AGAIN for GOLD
might as well hustle it in Gold, getting Gold
Everyone has a diff hustle.








I get bored after 5 mins. 7 is deathly pushing it. my countdowns are not long , counts against free chat.
I will do longer but I will bullshit. I dont entertain crowds well. Im better w one to a handful and in long privates they dont bark orders.
today i had a guy in GS barking orders.. I will quickly STOP DROP AND ROLL ON HIS ASS, as soon as I said to my room to hold up and wait bc I have to check a bitch that has never been in my GS barking fucking orders, the troll left.
My personality with men doesnt change much on cam, it stays real in my room.
I look at GS as a night club, this is the stage to give a sample. Collect stage tips and its the exact same as GS. After Gold usually land a private.
Nightclub, performing on stage, some tip , some do not, sometimes a girl circles the pole bc there is no money but she is still "marketing" herself to the crowd and will more than likely grab a table or VIP.
I have taken one person in gold and he be the only one. My loss, his gain but in the long run he became a reg private bc he had a gs by himself, experienced one with members and decided he likes privates.
Also think about what girls offer around you , are they doing 1 for 10? 3 for 10?
When ppl dont buy in my GS I start looking at see whats going on. I will kill it. The guys tipping , one usually wants a private.
Im not the type to kill it and restart, fuck all that. Just kill it.
They say try again
I straight up say, nope. I need to go private or log off right now. If I log off I just come back later.
When money stops, I stop.
If there is a trickle of money I will be damned if I add that to another models paycheck. These guys are looking for a show.
When questioned what I do in 5 mins? Blow your mind and Im not famous so stop questioning me, the point is to get clothes off not interview.
I do hate when "members" question me , wtf do they think im doing, picking my nose? lol its pissing me off to think abt those questions.
I have a girlfriend, porn famous and she cant hustle what I do bc it does not come natural. She is a natural doll and sweet. Thats what sells her.
If she treated her fans the way I do mine, she would prob have a empty room.
If I play her role, men say Im boring.
I was chatting w a model the other night, BBW class and we agree that we have to really own our shit to survive. We are two BBW fighting against a larger population.
People assume BBW gets more traffic just like BBW assume sometimes the smaller girls get more traffic.
I swear on my kids eyeballs its all in the attitude that comes natural.
I interact I flash I offer small vids. I will do a GS countdown fully nude (never showing pussy) if thats what it takes to get money. Im here to hustle, get my money and gtfo.
Some days I do sit in free chat and convo with the guys, I love my regulars and not all the time can they go private. Someone gets tired of my southern ass not stfu and whips me in private.
When I hear models say , "such and such" is doing a show so I will wait.. before "waiting" look at that model and make sure she doesnt look , act and perform your show.
usually girls are comparing their show to a girl in a whole different category. There is zero similarity between these models.
I don't look at the models, I click the page, see the price and scroll from there
Time is something we dont get back so dont waste it unless your trying too figure out what damn fuck machine she is using.
lol I have been in a models show trying my best to see what fuck machine brand/style she has, I have my eye on the machine so when she moves her cam I can catch it.![]()




I tried gold shows for the first time a few days ago after I got my approval. Tried many different formats, but nothing worked. I even went as low as $2 buy in and it was a complete waste of time and I lost money because I would have made more if I just kept doing regular privates.
If I can't get guys to buy in at $2 - $4 for a 5 minute show, it's a lost cause for me.





^^Something Tempting said reminded me of what I used to do, when I was asked by a 'gold show only' kind of guy if I would start one.
I asked him (typed privately to him only), what his spending limit was, then offered a gs show at that rate just for him. (p.S.) I only have done this if I am sitting in chat for too long, (for me that's 15 minutes, because I bore easily). If his offer was worth it for me., I start a short counter, and he pays, we go into show.
Not only am I getting his money, but a few more come in as well.
I'm thinking maybe tropo You could try that, and se if it works.




^^ Interesting idea, thanks. It's like a pre-paid block session with the advantage of people popping in.





^^ Correct, it's like a pre-paid block session. For some reason, gold show only guys don't buy those block sessions.
I would suggest doing less than 10 minutes (imo), for Your gs, only because that's prob. what he's used to in a reg gs anyway. Plus, unless he's spending over 100 dollars, it's going to tie up your time too much, you know what I mean?




^^ I didn't know you could sell block sessions on SM. How do you do this? I asked a question on another thread that has as yet remained unanswered...
A girl mentioned a voyeur mode in SM. I wasn't aware that you can do this? How is this done?




Block sessions are enabled in your profile, there's a check box for 15, 30, 60 min blocks. There is no official voyeur 'mode' on SM. They used to approve separate voyeur profiles, but now with gold shows, you just write out what you'll do in the voyeur show as your gs topic. Do a search and you'll find lots more.




Same here. Gold shows do not work well for me and I can give just as good of one as any other performer. I set a 10 minute timer and I'm lucky if I have $45 gold 8 minutes minutes later. I could be buck naked with a hand over my crotch talking dirty and I still wouldn't be able to get 200 gold off the guys that frequent my room. But I keep my clothes on and every now and then some white night will drop 50+ or the entire amount. So I"m going back to short ass timers or no timer at all like Tempting does.
"If you don't stand for anything, you'll fall for everything"




On the very first screen when you log in, look to the right of your photo. Look below your rating and hearts, below country, geoblock, and phone numbers. You should see "My show prices." It should show your premium rate, and then your exclusive rate. Right underneath that, you should see "Block sessions enabled/disabled" with the option to "edit." If you click "edit," you will get a screen allowing you to choose which block sessions you offer. HTH!
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Last edited by Magical_Hoohah; 03-13-2014 at 10:58 AM.
Originally Posted by temptingmodel



There has beed a discussion some ime ago,i think Nina was saying that she didn't have the block option and she asked support and they told her because her country was high risk 9Israel0 they didn't give that option to models there.I supose that could be the issue also for other countries. Anyway, you should ask support, or, better, Liz, about this option.





Ok so i've never used sm and finally decided to give it a try, despite the fact that they took MONTHS to approve me and I had to write them multiple emails before they decided to.
Because they don't have direct deposit (insert angry face here), I signed up for them to fed-ex my check to me directly. I received an email stating that they weren't going to approve my payment option due to my proximity to where they mail out their checks from and, as such, they want me to use regular mail... which isn't an option presently because there has been rampant mail theft in my area recently. payoneer has been super difficult for me to deal with in the past, so i want to avoid that. should I email them back and tell them checks by mail aren't an option? I'm so damn frustrated at this point.





i would try that i suppose but SM is stubborn ... what issues happened with payoneer? worst comes to worst join katies studio? i dont know if she does paper check tho but its something to look into





I've tried signing up for payoneer twice... the first time the site lost my sign up info. second time, they stated that my ssn was wrong even though it wasn't. sooo done with them.



BoleynModels does do direct deposit. It works great for me.
using payoneer with sm is different. SM will direct you to payoneer under them so its easier. Once ur set up and call them to get the fax # to send them a void check to get started with DD.
You could also get a PO Box and send the check there.
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