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    Quote Originally Posted by doublerainbow View Post
    Yes I do set myself on HD Wide, I'm told my feed looks awesome all the time. Lol and princess you have no idea how hard I've tried to make encoder work. The adobe one straight up freezes whenever I start it up - doesn't matter how much I reinstall or anything. So I started using the alternative (open broadcast software) and there isn't a standard SM setting for it. I've tried so many different things but it always pushes my round trip time into the thousands. I would LOVE to have some help figuring out the right settings to get it working.
    Are you sure isn't your computer the problem or maybe an old version of the encoder? SM offers 3 types of profiles with different settings, recommended, medium and low, all of them offer a good ranking because they are all HD. My laptop is a normal MacBook air, so nothing sophisticated, that can support a good streaming, compared with the i7 from the studio. But the medium settings worked good when I cammed from home and didn't affect my position. I'm not saying your image is not good, but just the simple fact of not using the Flash encoder can drop you. Internet connection, geoblocking and video quality are the main factors for the position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublerainbow View Post
    Thanks for the reply Stacy. I notice so many ladies here mentioning checking their placement, does that mean few camgirls use geoblocking? I'm a bit nervous to turn it off... is it worth it for the increase in traffic? I think you need to have it off for tv gold shows, right?
    I definitely find it worth it, I had geo-blocking on for a few days and I was making basically nothing because hardly anyone could see me even though I only had Russia blocked?!

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    1.94 mbps. I remember doing this a while ago and finding my internet should be the right speed.
    An upload speed of 1.94 is really not good enough. You will have difficulties using the encoder with internet that slow. It wasn't until I upgraded to at least 3 that I was able to use the encoder. And that was a few years ago on a dual core laptop. What are the specs of your computer? You dont always have to have an I7 processor. Like I said I did it with a dual core my first year. But you cant do anything else while you are streaming. Check email nothing. It takes up too much bandwidth and slows everything down. Slow data transfer looks choppy and pixelated. You may have audio issues as well. I know some people who can use SM and the encoder on I3 processors and I5's but they have high speed internet. I have an I7 Desktop with an upload speed of 12 currently. And even I at times will have issues.

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    Yes I do set myself on HD Wide, I'm told my feed looks awesome all the time. Lol and princess you have no idea how hard I've tried to make encoder work. The adobe one straight up freezes whenever I start it up - doesn't matter how much I reinstall or anything. So I started using the alternative (open broadcast software) and there isn't a standard SM setting for it. I've tried so many different things but it always pushes my round trip time into the thousands. I would LOVE to have some help figuring out the right settings to get it working.
    Pretty much the same thing I said above applies here. What are your specs? I use the OBS broadcaster now instead of the adobe. I like it so much more. Maybe you should try changing your ethernet cable to see if this improves the roundtrip time? I go through those pretty quickly and have noticed an improvement when I do.

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    I definitely find it worth it, I had geo-blocking on for a few days and I was making basically nothing because hardly anyone could see me even though I only had Russia blocked?!
    I had taken a 6 or 7 month hiatus from free chat a while back. When I came back to SM my geoblocking was turned on. Didnt show on my end but support kept responding that it was. Finally after many emails it was suddenly fixed. During those first 3 weeks I was nowhere to be found. Even though I hadn't turned it on I was removed from all external websites. No one could see me. The few that did find me, did so by doing keyword searches on the site. I think one guy said it was through the tags?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatGirlDynomite!!! View Post
    I had taken a 6 or 7 month hiatus from free chat a while back. When I came back to SM my geoblocking was turned on. Didnt show on my end but support kept responding that it was. Finally after many emails it was suddenly fixed. During those first 3 weeks I was nowhere to be found. Even though I hadn't turned it on I was removed from all external websites. No one could see me. The few that did find me, did so by doing keyword searches on the site. I think one guy said it was through the tags?
    Yeah, geo-blocking causes way more hassle than it is worth!

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    I have geo blocking on every site I'm on and opt out of third party marketing....I'm surprised I'm still doing good... But then again I have to wonder how much more I'd be making with it off... Can't say I've had any problems with it yet..although I do like how sm lets you pick cities versus just a whole state I might switch to cities blocked only
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    You can check what the customers are seeing by using your cammodel link. That would be: yourname.cammodels.com
    If your video looks bad, you will definitely losing out on the money. Your upload speed should be fine based on what SM recommended. It could be your computer not being able to handle the Encoder.
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    sorry to jump on this so much -.-
    I tried using the encoder with both the recommended settings, and then the medium settings, and both made it look worse than just the HD. I have no clue what my customers are seeing, so I'm freaking out trying to figure out if this is the reason I'm loosing customers. I just got my hours cut at my day job, so I'm massively worried that I won't get enough custies
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    Geo-blocking does not work but if it makes you feel better then keep it on!
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    I have geo blocking on every site I'm on and opt out of third party marketing....I'm surprised I'm still doing good... But then again I have to wonder how much more I'd be making with it off... Can't say I've had any problems with it yet..although I do like how sm lets you pick cities versus just a whole state I might switch to cities blocked only
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    I know I'm very confused by it.. Because I search many white label sites and I don't show up....also a member from my state before I blocked my state tried to find me sm and couldn't ... Until he went on a trip out side of our state and was able to find me via a whitelabel only...he also made an account on sm but couldn't find me .
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    An upload speed of 1.94 is really not good enough. You will have difficulties using the encoder with internet that slow. It wasn't until I upgraded to at least 3 that I was able to use the encoder. And that was a few years ago on a dual core laptop. What are the specs of your computer? You dont always have to have an I7 processor. Like I said I did it with a dual core my first year. But you cant do anything else while you are streaming. Check email nothing. It takes up too much bandwidth and slows everything down. Slow data transfer looks choppy and pixelated. You may have audio issues as well. I know some people who can use SM and the encoder on I3 processors and I5's but they have high speed internet. I have an I7 Desktop with an upload speed of 12 currently. And even I at times will have issues.



    Pretty much the same thing I said above applies here. What are your specs? I use the OBS broadcaster now instead of the adobe. I like it so much more. Maybe you should try changing your ethernet cable to see if this improves the roundtrip time? I go through those pretty quickly and have noticed an improvement when I do.
    I thought I had good internet I have upload speeds of 7 and download 61 ... I literally just upgraded lol online so now I have 10upload and 100download... The highest my internet offers is 20 upload and 150 download so if this doesn't have a change I might have to go with the last one.. I have an i3. I also just bought a new Ethernet cable but didn't realize there's a difference in cords so I got a cat5 now I realize cat6a is best .
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    So first time logging on! I did 3 and half hours. Think I've got a regular already! Got several 5 star ratings and made $82 I know to some that's not much! But I expected to do so badly. I'd given myself a $50 rough aim. I am now kicking myself cos I could of gotten closer to 100 if I'd put my prices to what I wanted but though it was cheeky. Feel so happy this might just actually work out for me after all! I've been doing so poorly recently on the content selling sites I'm on I really need an income boost

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    Its all about the upload. You said in another thread you were splitting too much? If you have the option to upgrade to 20 upload I would do it. And you are doing all this on an I3 processor? WOW what brand and model is that?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaLovely View Post
    I thought I had good internet I have upload speeds of 7 and download 61 ... I literally just upgraded lol online so now I have 10upload and 100download... The highest my internet offers is 20 upload and 150 download so if this doesn't have a change I might have to go with the last one.. I have an i3. I also just bought a new Ethernet cable but didn't realize there's a difference in cords so I got a cat5 now I realize cat6a is best .

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    Oh wow, this last slew of posts has really opened my eyes! I only geoblock for the town I'm in and the ones directly near me, but I know so many people use IP blocking stuff so they'd be able to find me anyway... and if using it at all could be affecting my traffic.. I mean, I've been complaining about how ghost town it's been for me (up til yesterday when it suddenly went BOOM - and to me BOOM = making over $100 in 4 hours which I know is still not much compared to what some are earning).

    About the encoder, I have an i7 laptop and figured it could run fine so only tried the higher settings (before it started freezing on me constantly when I'd turn it on). Whenever I use the alternate encoder I do get a lot more traffic which makes me think my placement is higher, but not one show.. so I assume the lag is too much or it makes me choppy.

    I'll keep trying to make the adobe one stop freezing so I can use it, but I think my biggest obstacle that I didn't know was so bad until I read all the posts today is my upload speed. I bought the highest I can get in my area - 1mb up that reads as around .67mb on the speed test. x_x I know I need more than that but until I can afford to move I can't do shit about it (and so far I've been baaaarely scraping by paying my bills without anything left for saving, even for taxes!! This is counting the income from my day job too, where my hours are continually cut). Without the encoder my speeds are fine, my feed looks good, I surf SW and check email and whatever else when it's dead and no complaints about lag or anything - my CPU and memory are happy as clams. So it seems like I'm ok as long as I don't use the encoder but I know I could be making so much more with it. Hahaha this will be a beautiful success story someday where I can look back at the miserable starting situation and laugh, like "I came to this country with $3 in my pocket"....
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    Its all about the upload. You said in another thread you were splitting too much? If you have the option to upgrade to 20 upload I would do it. And you are doing all this on an I3 processor? WOW what brand and model is that?
    It's an asus ET2411IUkI (<<< idk if there i's or l's )Yup about 4 freechat sites and many other Indy sites/3 encoders the other lets you stream straight from the browser

    I will see how the next months are with these new upgrades... If it goes that much better I will upgrade again I'm really surprised I did this good lol with my set up I always that I had the best
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    I just did a total erase and reboot with the adobe encoder and downloaded fresh copies of it and the medium stream settings thing, installed everything and so far it's not freezing on me (haven't tried streaming from it yet though). I have a quick question - I use manycam to record my shows and have the resolution at 1280x720 but in the encoder it set the input size at 640x480. Should I change the manycam settings to reflect that or are the two unrelated?
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    I just did a total erase and reboot with the adobe encoder and downloaded fresh copies of it and the medium stream settings thing, installed everything and so far it's not freezing on me (haven't tried streaming from it yet though). I have a quick question - I use manycam to record my shows and have the resolution at 1280x720 but in the encoder it set the input size at 640x480. Should I change the manycam settings to reflect that or are the two unrelated?
    Change the input in the encoder to match the resolution on your cam instead. More pixels (1280x720) will give you a better stream quality than less pixels (640x480) while still maintaining the ratio that SM requires encoder streams to be.

    Re: geoblocking. I'll be one of the lone dissenters who says geoblocking works, but that's because of my goal in having it on. I could give one less shit if some random stranger at the grocery store recognizes me. I've got two large dogs and a self-defense background to keep me safe from potential stalkers, not geoblock (because, really, an IP blocker isn't going to do shit for that). I don't want to be involved in third party marketing, so geoblock works for me on that point. I also don't want my (very small) family to find me on cam, because that would just be an awkward conversation I'd like to avoid for as long as possible and none of them are tech savy enough to get around it (nor are any of their few friends likely to watch both porn and know me well enough to recognize on cam and bring it to the attention of my family). If the goal is to keep your 60+ year old tech-unfriendly relatives away and opt out of marketing campaigns, than geoblock works. If you expect it to be some miracle device that keeps everyone in a 50 mile radius from ever seeing you working naked on the internet, you're going to be sorely disappointed.

    I keep hearing that it hurts placement, but I don't know how much that's true. Placement wise, I usually sit between #20 and #30 in overall models on SM when I log on. My placement was usually #15-#20 when I was working 20+ hours per week (been a while, but getting back to it). That's not row 1, but it's high enough up that I make $40+ an hour my cut on average and I'm content with that.

    People get disappointed when they expect too much of geoblock. It's a tool, but it's not perfect and there are work arounds. You're still just as likely to end up getting recorded and put on a tube site, or to have someone you know see if they're browsing a porn site with a VPN installed, etc.
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    People get disappointed when they expect too much of geoblock. It's a tool, but it's not perfect and there are work arounds. You're still just as likely to end up getting recorded and put on a tube site, or to have someone you know see if they're browsing a porn site with a VPN installed, etc.
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    An upload speed of 1.94 is really not good enough. You will have difficulties using the encoder with internet that slow. It wasn't until I upgraded to at least 3 that I was able to use the encoder. And that was a few years ago on a dual core laptop. What are the specs of your computer? You dont always have to have an I7 processor. Like I said I did it with a dual core my first year. But you cant do anything else while you are streaming. Check email nothing. It takes up too much bandwidth and slows everything down. Slow data transfer looks choppy and pixelated. You may have audio issues as well. I know some people who can use SM and the encoder on I3 processors and I5's but they have high speed internet. I have an I7 Desktop with an upload speed of 12 currently. And even I at times will have issues.



    Pretty much the same thing I said above applies here. What are your specs? I use the OBS broadcaster now instead of the adobe. I like it so much more. Maybe you should try changing your ethernet cable to see if this improves the roundtrip time? I go through those pretty quickly and have noticed an improvement when I do.

    I only have 1mbs up at the minute, should be getting faster soon, and I use the encoder. I set the framerate to 15 and use 640x320 with a 700kb bitrate limit. I occasionally have issues as my bandwidth drops even further(!) but for the most part it is ok. I would definitely recommend doing it. The last three parts of the rankings page are all related to using the encoder, I would rather have yes' there than no's. Keep an eye on your bitrate for the stream and the amount of dropped frames. My advice would be to have a lower framerate if your internet is slow. Cinema is shot at 24 frames a second as that is the limit of the human brain so anything above is fairly ancillary. To be honest I don't think my stream is that bad either at only 15, its not great but not so bad people complain all day!

    As for geoblock, its a waste of time IMO. Admittedly I was blocking a country but not only could I log on and see myself if I searched I also had heaps of Australian guys coming in anyway. Since I took it off, everything did get slightly easier and now I can check my placement and moan about how low I am. lol

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    Re: geoblocking. I'll be one of the lone dissenters who says geoblocking works, but that's because of my goal in having it on. I could give one less shit if some random stranger at the grocery store recognizes me. I've got two large dogs and a self-defense background to keep me safe from potential stalkers, not geoblock (because, really, an IP blocker isn't going to do shit for that). I don't want to be involved in third party marketing, so geoblock works for me on that point. I also don't want my (very small) family to find me on cam, because that would just be an awkward conversation I'd like to avoid for as long as possible and none of them are tech savy enough to get around it (nor are any of their few friends likely to watch both porn and know me well enough to recognize on cam and bring it to the attention of my family). If the goal is to keep your 60+ year old tech-unfriendly relatives away and opt out of marketing campaigns, than geoblock works. If you expect it to be some miracle device that keeps everyone in a 50 mile radius from ever seeing you working naked on the internet, you're going to be sorely disappointed.

    I keep hearing that it hurts placement, but I don't know how much that's true. Placement wise, I usually sit between #20 and #30 in overall models on SM when I log on. My placement was usually #15-#20 when I was working 20+ hours per week (been a while, but getting back to it). That's not row 1, but it's high enough up that I make $40+ an hour my cut on average and I'm content with that.

    People get disappointed when they expect too much of geoblock. It's a tool, but it's not perfect and there are work arounds. You're still just as likely to end up getting recorded and put on a tube site, or to have someone you know see if they're browsing a porn site with a VPN installed, etc.
    Your situation is exactly as mine... I know ppl can still find me ..record me etc... I'm really only have a handful of ppl I don't want finding out ..and I've already planned for if/when it happens ..out of those handful of ppl 2 are too old don't even use the Internet other than checking there emails...anyonevelse that knows me well pretty much knows me and wouldn't be surprised ...I was a stripper before without hiding it..
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    Your situation is exactly as mine... I know ppl can still find me ..record me etc... I'm really only have a handful of ppl I don't want finding out ..and I've already planned for if/when it happens ..out of those handful of ppl 2 are too old don't even use the Internet other than checking there emails...anyonevelse that knows me well pretty much knows me and wouldn't be surprised ...I was a stripper before without hiding it..
    Yeah, I feel like my relatives wouldn't be shocked, but it's also just one of those times where 'peace in the kingdom' is a phrase that really applies. Would they be upset? Yes, for like a week. It would be a really, really shitty week, but it would pass. I just don't feel like dealing with it, so I utilize geoblock. My family will not be fooled by heavy make up and glasses.

    On that note, heavy make up, glasses, and different hair styles do work nicely on people who've only ever seen me on the internet. I'm going back to school this fall and I'm sure at least one dude on that campus has been a broke freeloader in my room. However, I'm long past my 'college vanity' of being totally done up for school. Sloppy bun, little make up, and bland clothes? I'm disguised! Throw in that my personality on cam (and with close friends) is much louder and more outgoing than it is when I'm in 'school mode' and I've got pretty solid deniability.

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    Since my upload speed is so miniscule I'll try keeping it at 640x480 and changing it to match on manycam, hopefully that'll keep my stream pretty clear. Without the encoder my fps seems to hover around 19 so I'll set it to 20 in the encoder. It would be so lovely if this works.

    I'm deactivating geoblocking too... the one benefit of having practically no family is not having to worry about anyone I care about finding out I cam and judging me. My friends wouldn't care, I don't keep those kind of friends. My only worry is stalkers and creeps, really. I live alone and work a day job at a very busy place with large amounts of public interaction (thanks, retail!)... but it's true, with customers who record shows and ip blocking, it's pretty much guaranteed I'll be recognized eventually whether or not I take the extra precaution. Might as well own my shit and make it rain. Maybe I'll get business cards and pass them out on my way to work.
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    Got feedback over and over tonight that my feed was choppy and/or laggy... switched to HD Wide and got a lot more paying traffic. x_x I checked my tech specs in the "my ratings" tab and noticed without the encoder my bitrate and fps is a bit lower than what I set it to, so I'm gonna try putting in all the specs just how it shows there and see if the encoder will be happy with that. Has anyone else tried this method to set up their encoder?
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    Am I the only person who thinks this guy (guy? I think, the hat is confusing me lol) is seriously fucking beautiful? Damn baby, just ...damn.

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    Am I the only person who thinks this guy (guy? I think, the hat is confusing me lol) is seriously fucking beautiful? Damn baby, just ...damn.
    I thought it was a girl......... and she isnt so much my type but she is beautiful.

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