



I have no idea how things work within the wires...LOL I am on the West Coast USA in a big city. My internet speed is excellent too. I have an HP i7 laptop that I only use for camming. I'm only on SM, no split camming. I did have glitches that Thursday about a month ago when everything seemed to fall apart on SM. Nothing since then but for the occasional guy getting kicked outta exclusive. But those things have happened once in awhile since day one. Stay positive ;-) that's my motto





I am so sick and tired of "minute men"! I've been making notes on them for a long time now and I'm just going to start blocking them after their 3rd offense. I have no time to deal with cheap fucks who bother to take me out of free chat, get me excited for a show and then leave as I start getting undressed. And since I'm only making $2-$3 off of them each time I won't miss them one bit! I just had some loser pop in my free chat who I had labeled "minute man" in my notes...he had over 10 shows ALL under 2 minutes! WTF? Blocked him. Blocking them all from now on.


I do that too. I try to add notes to anyone that stays less than 5 minutes and the only way I'll let them take me private/exclusive again is if they've rated me 5 stars in the past. Otherwise they can eat a dick.
No power in the 'verse can stop me.
Hey!I'm new here and I have a big problem,maybe someone can help me with a good advice.I'm working under a studio(from Home) and I wanna quit,to continue working on my OWN.I mailed streamray,streamate and the answer is the same:the studio will need to send a request to cancel my actual account.BUT THE BIG PROBLEMS IS :The studio won't do that.What can I do?i can't stay away 90 days,the time limit to have closed automatically my accounts,because the studio can connect 5 min per day without my permission and my accounts never will be closed .Please HELP me with a solution.Thanks!


If you tell your studio you want to quit camming all together, will they still not delete your account? I only know of one time SM has ever let someone go from working for a studio to working directly for SM and it was because her studio wasn't paying her.
If you haven't already talked to Liz she might be able to offer a suggestion, but I think most of the studios have some sort of non compete clause in their contracts to prevent girls from realizing they could make more without the studio and dumping them.
No power in the 'verse can stop me.
This "new" ranking system is ridiculous!
Why would guys from the UK be more interested in girls from BG, RO and LV with 3 and 4 star ratings?
Guys from those countries can't even join the site as paying members!
Seriously the only people I seem to be getting in my room is users who have paid me before, I have a lot of UK custies and now new guys won't find me it seems.
It seems that SM haven't heard "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" because they spend a lot of time fixing things that work fine and ignoring things that are obviously broken.
Ugghhh.... *rant over*





Placement still looks the same to me, and I've tried a few out of area IPs so I have no clue what's going on.
I'll be totally honest--I hate the idea of regional placement. It makes sense to rank girls by the language the customer selects (i.e. if a customer selects Spanish as their language to put Spanish speaking girls first instead of English-only girls), but otherwise I'm not a fan. I see a good mix of girls from all around the world on the first page when I look (and maybe that's just my end?) and the thing they all have in common is that they put in the hours and have the sort of quality show that deserves high ranking placement. Arranging girls just because they happen to be from the same area of the world as the customer is really a slap in the face of all the models who worked so hard to get their ranking up, and I know that all the ladies who've been posting about the issue are the types who have done just that. On the other hand, I worry about customer reception of this change, because if a guy can't find his favorite models quickly (not all dudes use favorites!) in her normal spot, he could leave; if a guy doesn't like the girls he's seeing on page one because of regional placement (be that in terms of looks, price, feed quality, show quality, whatever), he could leave; etc. The current placement system is meant to put the 'best' girls (in terms of hours/earnings/stream quality) at the top to entice customers to spend and I don't see another system giving new girls a chance so much as driving current customers away.
Just my $.02 though. Seriously--I realize not everyone is gonna agree with me, but I wanted to put that out there.




I feel like there is something glitchy with the time online portion of the ranking page. Despite the fact that I'm spending more and more time online my number seems to be dropping instead of raising. It's like something is keeping me from passing the 90 mark despite the fact that I know I've spent at least that much time online every month. Earlier today I was at 86 hours average per month and I spent another 12 hours online today. I'm getting ready to get back on and I looked at my ranking and I dropped to 79 hours average per month. WHYYYYYY. It's the last thing I need to get excellent in all categories. Just grrrrr.





If I were to wager a guess, it's a minor error in the update of data time. So, everything after 30 days drops off obviously, so you lose all the hours you worked on day 30. Meanwhile, the hours you worked today take time to update in the placement page (up to 24 hours for me), so I can actually see my placement go down several hours even after a marathon because the 30th day dropped without the most recent day getting added yet.




Hey guys hope no one minds me asking this. I've registered on SM with AW being really slow but i've not logged in for the first time yet. I am wondering about camming in the day as at night is killing me my kids don't sleep. I'm in the UK and just wondering what SM traffic is like in daytime hours or if i'm better just hitting it at night and splitting the time with my AW account? Thankies x








This is Lazlos idea.We should find him and punch in the face with our dildos.
They are updating "My ranking", you'll be able to see it for a specific period of time, 7/30/90 days. Useless.





I am sorry u guys feel the placement changes are unfair for u western girls but believe me, it always felt unfair for us EU girls on SM, we never had the chance to shine & become popular because we never had the audience & exposure u guys always had.
You say u worked hard for ur placement but we did too, just u had the chance on ur side cause u had all western guys paying for ur shows & making u what u are now while us EU girls had no real chance to succeed.
I 'cried' many times here how unfair it felt for us when Gold shows were introduced & most guys were in ur western girls room buying ur shows & we were left behind with no traffic, we could not compete with u on gold shows, it's a huge difference when u talking native english & entice guys to buy & when u try the same in a broken english, it's just not working.
Plus the racism if i can call it like this, western guys undervaluing non western girls always. Some of us lived abroad in a western country & felt the difference, i was of value when i was living there for the members on site but then i had no value when not in a western country while it was the same me, right?
Plus the fees, members consider we dont deserve higher fees like western girls do, they wanna pay us $1.99/min or even less while they pay u high prices. Plus we only get 30% from what u make compared to u who get 35%, see the difference?
Now i dont know if this placement thing is going to stay, i dont know how site is going to change from now on, i can only say that EU girls should have a chance to be seen too, not always the same faces on the 1st page for all members coming on SM, there are just soo many spots the 1st page has, of course u got them all, famous porn stars, top performers from western countries, studio girls working for SM's studio & so on then the page is filled up already.
Plus what SM always promote, their favorite money makers, their studio girls and such, an independent cam girl from outside the western zone has less chances to make money.
I know i am a minority here, i know u guys dont like to be told these things, i know who i am talking to & i know most of u wont agree me but believe me, i dont mind, i say what i have to say, i want u to know how it feels to be me, to be us, EU girls, if u for a second jump out of ur present life & try to put urself in my/our shoes for a few seconds only, u guys will understand how it feels NOT to be favorited, NOT to be considered of value just because the place u live in or nationality or even skin color, make this imagination exercise to see for a few seconds how lucky you guys are to live where u live, to have the members from ur regional location paying for ur shows & making u popular, to be able to roleplay ur shows and speak ur native language, to be paid more and such.
Then u'll not feel this angry cause us EU girls will get a little bit of exposure too for the members in our region, i dont think we'll become more successful than u anyway but maybe we'll make a little more than now.
Cheers!

I'm from EU and I don't see what good does this new placement to anyone !Here are my reasons :
1.Sm -has mostly USA traffic !(check the site on ALEXA).Laszlo said that they will but traffic from EU 2 but they didn't yet,so until they start buying traffic this new placement is useless!
2.Placement is all fucked up so far coz you see girls with 3 stars on the first row (lot's of other models from EU are placed why lowed ,coz like everytime SM makes changes just fucks everything )
What is really unfair is the fact that if u are from UK/CANADA/USA/AUSTRALIA u GET 35% and for the rest is 30%!
About guy's thinking that we deserve to be paid more then 1.99/per minute .well lot's of EU girls don't charge more and they get used like this ,and that is how things are on most of the sites with lots of EU girls !For ex on Imlive u can't even charge more then 5.98 (if I remember well )so they got use with low rates
To be honest I think that are far more important things to be improved on SM!





^^^ Exactly so where is the problem?! The guys from USA, Canada, Australia will still see the site in the same way like till now, that's what matters actually cause they are the paying customers. Now sure what UK guys see as default but people will get used to filter models by location eventually if they interested in certain regional girls. If u happen to be in EU as a model yes, u see a 'messed up' 1st page, by default but this is not affecting u much cause people in Eastern Europe for example are not even able to register as members, only western european members can & will pay for shows anyway. So i guess they testing things out just now & who knows, maybe allow eastern european guys to register as members and buy too. We'll see how things turn out.









^^^ The fact that u work in SM's studio is a huge advantage already, dont u know that by contract SM is reserving u guys in their studio few spots on 1st page? if u happen to be a popular girl it's because u get 'help' also together with the work u do on ur own. It's one thing to be on 1st page 2nd row and get all the exposure & charge $6.99/min & another thing to be in EE as independent model eventually on page 3 & charge the same, right? The girls on page 2,3,4,5 can charge the same too but who finds & value them/ pay them if they 'buried' there?! So they have to charge less to make something.




^There are girls from my studio on page 2-3. They give you a good position when you are at new models, first row. From there you are on your own. When I started camming I made $250-300 per week, and I was on the second page, charging 2.49. Took me 6 months to "grow" on the page. I started making bigger amounts, because I worked more and better. Big secret.




Placement also looks the same for me too. But I don't have a customer account anymore (spent too much money LOL ) so I can't look that way. I think of it like a guy thinks of it. If a guy is looking for a certain type girl he doesn't care about the girls that don't match that type. Men are very simple. Their eyes will pass over girls that don't attract them. Doesn't matter if she's on the top row. Men like what they like. They also don't care about the front page as much as women/models do. They will scroll through every page ladies, I'm telling you. Men like to hunt and look and search. They will look at all the pages because they don't want to miss anything. Don't underestimate them or sell yourself short. And men do remember model's name and search that way, they do add favorites and if you meet what they are looking for they will find you. Keep them in your room with a smile and receptive, welcoming attitude. Even if you don't meet their "visual or fantasy match" and they stumble into your room by accident, if you make them feel comfortable they will stick around, or at least remember you were nice to them.





Can I just fucking please be seen on the mobile site? Because its beyond ridiculous. Ive tested it. My fiance has tested it. My sister and all the same crap. In Private...uhm no im not. Sitting infree chat looking mad as hell. Screen freezes timing out. And we dont have shitty phones with shitty connections. It's not every room. But mine seems to be included in this fuckery. I think me and Streamate are gonna have to break up again. This is not good for my sanity.
@KatM girrrrrrl you just opened up a big ol can of worms. I hear you. I feel you. I applaud you. But it doesn't matter. I can tell this is upsetting you but it doesn't matter because aint nobody listening. Or trying to. I'm sorry to say this to you. Get those guys to do skype shows. I think it might make you feel better. Give less fucks. That sort of thing. Because it's not gonna change.
I can understand us girls frustration over the new system however iv got to say my placement is fantastic with it im on the top row with eu girls. I was a front page model anyway anything from row 9 downwards. When I change to view us/uk/aus im still on the frontnpage which is a huge boost for me. I do think all the customers should be told about the changes though. The guys iv been getting since the changes have been really happy to find girls from the uk easier.





Thank u love, maybe it does not matter & people wont care but i know i voiced my opinion & frustration so people are at least a little bit more aware of how things really are/feel out of their limited horizon. I am not a skype type of girl, i dont feel like trying indy, dont have the energy, health or age for trying a new avenue now, i will stay on SM & make money the way i can regardless of all disadvantages because i know i am awesome & people love me for what i am & the shows i offer, the guys who buy my shows always leave satisfied & return for more.
Hugs & much love xxx!
ETA: on that personality test it says i am Turbulent lol, yeah it's in my blood, cant help it, my 'mission' here on this forum is to make people aware of things they dont know about, to help them wider their horizon & perception, to see at 360 degrees lol, how could they know more if nobody tells them, right? So i am here to tell. That is all![]()
Last edited by KatM; 08-12-2015 at 08:37 AM.
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