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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    Hmm.... I have to think about this more in depth but my initial answer is this....

    The camming veterans will stick to their guns and not give in to the lower prices and free shows, and will continue to make money.

    The new cammers will give in because they don't know any better, charge less and give away more. Thus, make way less, and quit camming because it becomes not worth it.

    I'm already seeing a huge gap between those of us that demand what we charge, and those who give it all away for free and are left at the end of the day not making very much. There doesn't seem to be much of a "middle ground".

    I whole heartily believe that if you are going to "make it" camming, you absolutely cannot give in to "slow times" or freeloaders and lower your rates or start giving away more for less.

    So what can you do about it? You can choose to remain one of the models that acknowledges that camming is a LUXURY and if you cannot afford even a measly $1/min you should not be on a cam site! You should be WORKING. I also know however, that times are tough for customers AND models, and so models get desperate and lower their standards. Again, this is a LUXURY industry, and those who cannot afford to buy the shows at decent rates, and models who are desperate and therefore lowering to rock bottom prices, probably do not belong in this industry. I apologize if that is harsh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    Depends on where you look. If you look on Alexa for the last year, it shows a huge drop in traffic, which is pretty scary. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/streamate.com
    But you have to remember paying traffic and traffic aren't the same thing....
    So even if the traffics lower but conversion rate is over we could be better off.,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowy0Star View Post
    It pisses me off the way these guys pull shit like that like they expect it all for nothing if they want free its called pornhub.com ...
    We broadcast on pornhub every time we login to broadcast on Streamate. They just call it http://www.pornhublive.com/

    I haven't been spending much time in free chat over the past few months because of health problems. But I plan on getting back to things soon. I've been watching how Streamate has shifted their marketing over the past year.

    This type of traffic and marketing does increase sales for some cam girls, affiliates, and companies. But it's definitely new territory for Streamate. Freecamsecrets.com isn't available in the Streamate affiliate marketing tools area. So that means most affiliates will also lose out on new sign ups.

    I think we can continue to be successful. We might just need to change our game.

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    When your traffic drops that low, you are losing money period. Traffic flow is what keeps a site like Streamate going. If you look at their stats, the traffic has dropped since they added Gold shows and then slowly declined more. It's brought in a lot of deadbeat traffic and the quality customers are not happy with the site. All you have to do is read the customer reviews at sites like this http://www.rabbitsreviews.com/s9333/Streamate.html The glitches, Gold shows and customer support is what many customers seem to complain about. The conversation rates aren't that impressive either. They need to stop putting up ads that the site is free and stop allowing all the nudity in free chat. If you don't have standards then your site will become crappy.



    Quote Originally Posted by Missbeth View Post
    But you have to remember paying traffic and traffic aren't the same thing....
    So even if the traffics lower but conversion rate is over we could be better off.,

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    Their marketing is an issue. They are marketing themselves as a free site, which they aren't. It has been bringing in tons of deadbeats and people who expect dirt cheap shows. In their qwest to be like MFC they are killing their own site just like CamWorld did. The upgrades they did to the site has caused so many glitches it isn't even funny. People have been getting kicked off the site, including customers. When you talk to CS about it, they act like it's an issue on your end not theirs. I'm sorry but all the performers having issues can't all have slow connections, old computers and screwed up Encoders. That's not possible. It's a frustrating cycle and they need to address the issues and fix them. I talked to Liz and Danielle about this a few times.



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    We broadcast on pornhub every time we login to broadcast on Streamate. They just call it http://www.pornhublive.com/

    I haven't been spending much time in free chat over the past few months because of health problems. But I plan on getting back to things soon. I've been watching how Streamate has shifted their marketing over the past year.

    This type of traffic and marketing does increase sales for some cam girls, affiliates, and companies. But it's definitely new territory for Streamate. Freecamsecrets.com isn't available in the Streamate affiliate marketing tools area. So that means most affiliates will also lose out on new sign ups.

    I think we can continue to be successful. We might just need to change our game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    Their marketing is an issue. They are marketing themselves as a free site, which they aren't. It has been bringing in tons of deadbeats and people who expect dirt cheap shows. In their qwest to be like MFC they are killing their own site just like CamWorld did. The upgrades they did to the site has caused so many glitches it isn't even funny. People have been getting kicked off the site, including customers. When you talk to CS about it, they act like it's an issue on your end not theirs. I'm sorry but all the performers having issues can't all have slow connections, old computers and screwed up Encoders. That's not possible. It's a frustrating cycle and they need to address the issues and fix them. I talked to Liz and Danielle about this a few times.
    what have they said about it ?
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    They said they woud look into it. They also said the problems I am experiencing are happening to other performers. I have new laptops, my upload speed is usually above 14 mbps and my camera is a good quality. You can't really do much until they address the glitches and fix them.


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    what have they said about it ?

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    Do girls really do 40 minutes long Gold Shows?! OMG, don't they get sore? DAAAAAMMMMMNNN!

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    I know for sure in streamate's physical studio in Romania they did 1 hour shows...but most of it was dancing though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marina Starr View Post
    Do girls really do 40 minutes long Gold Shows?! OMG, don't they get sore? DAAAAAMMMMMNNN!
    One of my favorite SM models did a cooking GOLD show with another model, and I think the price was like a few bucks for an hour show or something like that.

    Occasionally I'll see models with GOLD show timers up, and in the description box it will just say "I'm doing a GOLD show." LOL. You gotta be specific about what you're doing, otherwise you'll have guys not chipping in, or you'll have guys chipping in and then complaining later when they learn that it's NOT a penetration show. So if it's just intended to be a shower show or something like that, it's important to state that in the description. We all know how much some guys on SM love to whine...lol.

    I wouldn't even do a 30/40 minute Skype show unless the guy is 100% clear that the majority of that time will NOT be penetration. One guy from MFC won a 30 minute Skype show, and he thought it meant I'm gonna keep fucking myself repeatedly. When I was done using my glass dildo, he was like "Aren't you gonna go at it again?" I told him no...lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrownFox View Post
    One of my favorite SM models did a cooking GOLD show with another model, and I think the price was like a few bucks for an hour show or something like that.

    Occasionally I'll see models with GOLD show timers up, and in the description box it will just say "I'm doing a GOLD show." LOL. You gotta be specific about what you're doing, otherwise you'll have guys not chipping in, or you'll have guys chipping in and then complaining later when they learn that it's NOT a penetration show. So if it's just intended to be a shower show or something like that, it's important to state that in the description. We all know how much some guys on SM love to whine...lol.

    I wouldn't even do a 30/40 minute Skype show unless the guy is 100% clear that the majority of that time will NOT be penetration. One guy from MFC won a 30 minute Skype show, and he thought it meant I'm gonna keep fucking myself repeatedly. When I was done using my glass dildo, he was like "Aren't you gonna go at it again?" I told him no...lol.
    i sware some of these guys go on webcam sites because they cant get real sex because theyre are fucking clueless how our lady bits work and what its safe and resonsible for us to do ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    Exactly. She will lower either the buy in, the total goal, or LENGTHEN the show time to make it "more attractive". Many, many guys wait it out because they know the model will do this. Or, they will restart over and over.

    I've gotten to the point where I'm like look.... if you want a show with me this is it. This is the price, the goal, the length. No restarting. No second tries, no lowering the amount. And I have found that over time it has become sort of "known" that I am not a model who will give in to this stuff. If they can't make the goal, TOO BAD, they can do private if they want a show.

    And yah, it's hard to do that and get to that point, especially if you NEED the money. But over the long haul I really believe you can make it part of your "brand" for lack of a better description. Eventually the guys will get it that if they want a show with you, they need to pony up and pony up fast before the timer runs out.
    That's awesome!

    I believe we really can train our fans that they need to buy in quickly or they will miss out and have to pay a higher private rate.

    I'm experimenting with raising the price every time I restart (sometimes adding a minute to the show length to sweeten the deal). Too early to tell if it's working but so far I've had a few successful tries.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    When your traffic drops that low, you are losing money period. Traffic flow is what keeps a site like Streamate going. If you look at their stats, the traffic has dropped since they added Gold shows and then slowly declined more. It's brought in a lot of deadbeat traffic and the quality customers are not happy with the site. All you have to do is read the customer reviews at sites like this http://www.rabbitsreviews.com/s9333/Streamate.html The glitches, Gold shows and customer support is what many customers seem to complain about. The conversation rates aren't that impressive either. They need to stop putting up ads that the site is free and stop allowing all the nudity in free chat. If you don't have standards then your site will become crappy.
    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    Their marketing is an issue. They are marketing themselves as a free site, which they aren't. It has been bringing in tons of deadbeats and people who expect dirt cheap shows. In their qwest to be like MFC they are killing their own site just like CamWorld did. The upgrades they did to the site has caused so many glitches it isn't even funny. People have been getting kicked off the site, including customers. When you talk to CS about it, they act like it's an issue on your end not theirs. I'm sorry but all the performers having issues can't all have slow connections, old computers and screwed up Encoders. That's not possible. It's a frustrating cycle and they need to address the issues and fix them. I talked to Liz and Danielle about this a few times.
    Yes Yes Yes and Yesssss. I've been talking about their traffic for a while and it was like no one knew or acknowledged what I was talking about. Now months later other models are finally starting to see what I was talking about. They need to stop trying to be like other sites and go back to their original marketing routine/campaign. Their traffic use to be bomb(as in great) and now it sucks. I read the reviews on Rabbits and I can't believe that they treat the customer's just like they treat us models. I would've thought or at least hoped that they treated the customers better then us.

    Uggggh to Camworld. I never made alot of money on their but it was good for split-camming. I haven't worked on there in years because of all the changes and serious decline in traffic. Webcamclub runs it now and I don't like them at all lol. As soon I realized that they were running the site I tried to get my account deleted. Customer service sucks now and I'm still waiting for them to delete my account. I wish these sites would stop trying to fix things that aren't broken. Just improve on things and stop trying to change the whole format of the site/business/company. It makes no sense to ruin something that was so fantastically great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    That's awesome!

    I believe we really can train our fans that they need to buy in quickly or they will miss out and have to pay a higher private rate.

    I'm experimenting with raising the price every time I restart (sometimes adding a minute to the show length to sweeten the deal). Too early to tell if it's working but so far I've had a few successful tries.
    I've seen girls do this because there are guys there who genuinely want to see the show & know that they're still getting a deal at $1/min. So if your show is set at $5 for 5 min and you raise it to $7 for 8 min but keep the goal the same, you might still make your goal b/c some of the guys are willing to pitch in more to get the show going. Those who can't spare the whole $2 can go find another show. I've seen it work a lot of times.

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    (edit) did that show so well. Those two are hilarious.



    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrownFox View Post
    One of my favorite SM models did a cooking GOLD show with another model, and I think the price was like a few bucks for an hour show or something like that.

    Occasionally I'll see models with GOLD show timers up, and in the description box it will just say "I'm doing a GOLD show." LOL. You gotta be specific about what you're doing, otherwise you'll have guys not chipping in, or you'll have guys chipping in and then complaining later when they learn that it's NOT a penetration show. So if it's just intended to be a shower show or something like that, it's important to state that in the description. We all know how much some guys on SM love to whine...lol.

    I wouldn't even do a 30/40 minute Skype show unless the guy is 100% clear that the majority of that time will NOT be penetration. One guy from MFC won a 30 minute Skype show, and he thought it meant I'm gonna keep fucking myself repeatedly. When I was done using my glass dildo, he was like "Aren't you gonna go at it again?" I told him no...lol.
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    One of the performers mentioned they stopped buying traffic and put tons of money into the tv shows. I hope that's not true but it would explain a lot.



    Quote Originally Posted by Blovely View Post
    Yes Yes Yes and Yesssss. I've been talking about their traffic for a while and it was like no one knew or acknowledged what I was talking about. Now months later other models are finally starting to see what I was talking about. They need to stop trying to be like other sites and go back to their original marketing routine/campaign. Their traffic use to be bomb(as in great) and now it sucks. I read the reviews on Rabbits and I can't believe that they treat the customer's just like they treat us models. I would've thought or at least hoped that they treated the customers better then us.

    Uggggh to Camworld. I never made alot of money on their but it was good for split-camming. I haven't worked on there in years because of all the changes and serious decline in traffic. Webcamclub runs it now and I don't like them at all lol. As soon I realized that they were running the site I tried to get my account deleted. Customer service sucks now and I'm still waiting for them to delete my account. I wish these sites would stop trying to fix things that aren't broken. Just improve on things and stop trying to change the whole format of the site/business/company. It makes no sense to ruin something that was so fantastically great.

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    I just looked in the Ebony section and saw a model naked with her hand covering her pussy, and her topic said that she will show her pussy for 5 Gold. I wonder if she's even familiar with the rules (I had gotten suspended a long time ago when I wasn't clear on what we could/couldn't flash).
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    It depends on who you talk to at SM. But I don't think anyone gets in trouble for flashing tits for gold. Of course you're not allowed to flash pussy.

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    You are allowed to flash tits for GOLD. You are not supposed to sit in free chat with no top on. Not sure if they are enforcing that or not. No nudity below the belt. Not sure if they are enforcing that either since I see it happen all the time.



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    Can someone please brief me on the public flashing rules? I have been on SM for almost a year and have no idea and I've never flashed anything because I was under the impression that it's technically not allowed.

    I get sooooooo many 'flash tits for gold?' all day long that I'm considering doing it, but I bet that if I actually do start offering that that it'll just turn into 'no pussy flash for gold bb?' all day long LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genoveve View Post
    Can someone please brief me on the public flashing rules? I have been on SM for almost a year and have no idea and I've never flashed anything because I was under the impression that it's technically not allowed.

    I get sooooooo many 'flash tits for gold?' all day long that I'm considering doing it, but I bet that if I actually do start offering that that it'll just turn into 'no pussy flash for gold bb?' all day long LOL.
    All I would add to this is if you are going to flash for gold, make sure its a decent amount and not just a few cents in your account, you are worth more than that! I offer a sexy strip tease for 50 gold, but if I ever get to do it I will still not be showing tits or pussy,a bit like a burlesque tease. Its so much sexier.
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    I still keep freezing and getting dropped out! I'm about to email support (I'm sure they will send me some copy + paste bs response). But in the meantime I'm just trying to work around it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeachyPie View Post
    I still keep freezing and getting dropped out! I'm about to email support (I'm sure they will send me some copy + paste bs response). But in the meantime I'm just trying to work around it.
    I have the same issue, I got disconnected at least 3 times per hour, my connection is ok, and of course I got a superb pc. Support replied " Use the Encoder settings" oh really ? Breaking news: we need to use the encoder settings ! What a silly answer.

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    anyone have phone listed, but it's not highlighted to offer it? my phone is there, but when I click on the phone icon it tells me to add the phone?

    Never mind... after restarted deleting and deleting again haha it finally worked
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    i am so frustrated and not getting any help from support on this. just wanting to rant and to get some advice. my moneys on the line or rather its in limbo.

    recently i moved out of US to another country and i went to change my address to my new one. all was well. then i noticed my paper checks where not coming in the mail so i went in to check my details and the site had glitched out or something because it had half of my new address and half of my old address as the payment address. i went in and tried to edit it but it would not update. i contacted support and after many a copy pasta response telling me that i could edit my details - which i already knew how to do - they eventually got the point n said they changed the address to the right one. it appears to be right on my profile even now. so once again i thought all was well.

    however i have still not received any of my checks since late DEC. or my 1099s - nothing. when i write them about it they give me the "pay 25 bucks to get another check or wait 45 days to get it for free" response. at that point i thought well maybe because I'm not in the US it takes longer and that they'll come in eventually and i waited...and waited and waited.. still nothing.so i wrote back and i asked how long does it usually take to have a check sent to this country. they said 9 days. it has been well beyond 9 days for even the most recently issued checks. for the oldest check well over 45 days. ;(its really disheartening.

    anyone else having this problem? what can i tell them? how long do you foreign girls usually have to wait for paper checks? do any of you ladies outside of the US use paper checks?
    i tried to get a Payoneer card but they asked me to scan and send my social security card. is this normal? maybe i should just bite the bullet go to the embassy and get my card reissued to get one.

    I'm wondering if the address looks fine on my end but still glitched out on supports end. its just weird to not be able to get a check from them. i should also mention i had them reissue the earliest check again since its been over 45 days but I'm worried since i haven't gotten any others that its just not going to the right place.
    i wants my money lol

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