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    Quote Originally Posted by CattyDoll View Post
    Hi girls! I hope I can talk here with someone and get some answers, because on russian forum all girls talks with each other like with (i'm sorry) a shit. I'm pregnant model (4 months), already camming about 4 years and decided to try streamate. My first price was 2.49 and I had 3 prvts but earned not so much( What is the optimal price for that site? Ty so much!
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    Hi KatM, ty) well, it was like "Omg... u think ppl come to u and will give u all their money right now? Then put 9.99 for ur prvt and go! And dont share ur hormones here, u're really dont know what work is it, dont u understand?"
    First Of All CattyDoll I am so glad you found this forum. If you realized that 2.49 was not working for you then up those prices. If you THINK you can rock it at 9.99 go for it. I do think it's possible to sometimes place yourself out side the race if you go too high, but you won't know until you try. Sometimes blind ignorance is the best thing when it comes to excelling. You have no idea what you're doing or what the limit is. Because to you, the sky is the limit. Am I making sense here? I believe that if you BELIEVED your prices should be much higher than 2.49 the do it up. Just see what happens. Are you in a studio or do you work on your own?

    Quote Originally Posted by KatM View Post
    Tell them: "Give me a break, will u? You know nothing about this business!" Men DO pay if u know how to ask them to pay.
    My concerning is, how much they will pay YOU considering u in Russia & I DO KNOW FOR SURE there is a lot of misconception & politics, nationalism, etc, etc, i stop here OK?
    Just try all fees & see what men pay YOU, dont be afraid to ask for money, if u know good english & can put up a great show (bet u do if u in the business for 4 yr already) then u should go for as high as u can.
    On SM u really have a good chance to make good money compared to other sites that have low fees and... well, u know the business, right?
    Dont listen to ur nationals, listen to the women on this forum.
    Good luck xx
    I know you're trying to be nice here but I don't think you should put this into other peoples heads. Not everyone sees the world in this manner. If I thought about all the limitations I face when trying to make money I would go crazy and second guess every thing I did. Then I wouldn't push myself because I already made up my mind that I'm not supposed to. Sky is the limit.

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    [QUOTE=PhatGirlDynomite!!!;2860523]First Of All CattyDoll I am so glad you found this forum. If you realized that 2.49 was not working for you then up those prices. If you THINK you can rock it at 9.99 go for it. I do think it's possible to sometimes place yourself out side the race if you go too high, but you won't know until you try. Sometimes blind ignorance is the best thing when it comes to excelling. You have no idea what you're doing or what the limit is. Because to you, the sky is the limit. Am I making sense here? I believe that if you BELIEVED your prices should be much higher than 2.49 the do it up. Just see what happens. Are you in a studio or do you work on your own?

    hi PhatGirlDynomite! I didn't want to put it up to 9.99, I'm just with 3.99 now. I work at home, no studio

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    Quote Originally Posted by KatM View Post
    Tell them: "Give me a break, will u? You know nothing about this business!" Men DO pay if u know how to ask them to pay.
    My concerning is, how much they will pay YOU considering u in Russia & I DO KNOW FOR SURE there is a lot of misconception & politics, nationalism, etc, etc, i stop here OK?
    Catty Doll, you might want to disguise your location. I use VyprVPN, it's paid but well worth it. It only cuts down your connection speed a tiny bit, and you can choose about any country you want (I'd recommend sticking with Europe though for better ping). Also, always make sure you have the highest speed internet you can get, it does make difference!
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    Of course Sky is the limit PhatGirl, we can ask for as high as we want but what if members dont pay our prices cause they consider we not worth that fees?

    Is not about what I, the cam model consider i am worth Only but also what my audience considers i am worth.
    I had in mind the post another member wrote in the BBW thread where she says she gets trolls telling her "Get real, u not worth $5/min".
    So why is she not worth? Cause she is an older BBW? -> misconception.

    Why would the young preggo woman would not be worth let's say $9.99/min?
    Because she is russian & some members consider she should charge less, same like her nationals do? -> Misconception
    Example from me: i had a member in my room spending big and tipping nice who commented "Oh u soo much different and nice & i adore u, u worth the prices, not going to spend my money into that eastern europeans there"

    Guess what u mofo? You just did buhahaha spent ur money on an e.euro girl's ass!
    Just because i was living in the west back then he put more value on me while if i was in my own country i had no value FOR HIM.
    That's my whole point, u ask for money but u also need the members to be willing to give u that money otherwise u make no money on cam, u sit dead w.o shows and high fees.

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KatM View Post
    Tell them: "Give me a break, will u? You know nothing about this business!" Men DO pay if u know how to ask them to pay.
    My concerning is, how much they will pay YOU considering u in Russia & I DO KNOW FOR SURE there is a lot of misconception & politics, nationalism, etc, etc, i stop here OK?
    Just try all fees & see what men pay YOU, dont be afraid to ask for money, if u know good english & can put up a great show (bet u do if u in the business for 4 yr already) then u should go for as high as u can.
    On SM u really have a good chance to make good money compared to other sites that have low fees and... well, u know the business, right?
    Dont listen to ur nationals, listen to the women on this forum.
    Good luck xx

    I've stopped talking with them. It's just useless. Less nervous for me and my future baby. TY for your support)**

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    Quote Originally Posted by KatM View Post
    Example from me: i had a member in my room spending big and tipping nice who commented "Oh u soo much different and nice & i adore u, u worth the prices, not going to spend my money into that eastern europeans there"

    Guess what u mofo? You just did buhahaha spent ur money on an e.euro girl's ass!
    Just because i was living in the west back then he put more value on me while if i was in my own country i had no value FOR HIM.
    Yes, hating the attitude. Like Eastern European or Asian pussy sits askew or something lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnylexie View Post
    Catty Doll, you might want to disguise your location. I use VyprVPN, it's paid but well worth it. It only cuts down your connection speed a tiny bit, and you can choose about any country you want (I'd recommend sticking with Europe though for better ping). Also, always make sure you have the highest speed internet you can get, it does make difference!
    Hello Sunnylexie! I've already changed my country in settings. Will check now about VyprVPN, ty

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    I kinda think you missed my point right off the bat? I know that misconceptions exist. I know all about adversity and cautionary tales. I will never dispute that when someone says it happens to them. I always believe them by default. It's what you do afterwards is what counts. But I've been thinking a lot this past week. And in a round about sort of way you just inspired me to give myself a raise. I'm gonna increase my prices on every site I work on. All across the board. May even tack on an extra dollar to all my clips? I've been at this too long and know too much to not charge more. Also I rarely get trolled despite my "limitations". I think most trolls know better when they enter my room. So I have no fear there. Im just gonna do it. /ramblings


    Quote Originally Posted by KatM View Post
    Of course Sky is the limit PhatGirl, we can ask for as high as we want but what if members dont pay our prices cause they consider we not worth that fees?

    Is not about what I, the cam model consider i am worth Only but also what my audience considers i am worth.
    I had in mind the post another member wrote in the BBW thread where she says she gets trolls telling her "Get real, u not worth $5/min".
    So why is she not worth? Cause she is an older BBW? -> misconception.

    Why would the young preggo woman would not be worth let's say $9.99/min?
    Because she is russian & some members consider she should charge less, same like her nationals do? -> Misconception
    Example from me: i had a member in my room spending big and tipping nice who commented "Oh u soo much different and nice & i adore u, u worth the prices, not going to spend my money into that eastern europeans there"

    Guess what u mofo? You just did buhahaha spent ur money on an e.euro girl's ass!
    Just because i was living in the west back then he put more value on me while if i was in my own country i had no value FOR HIM.
    That's my whole point, u ask for money but u also need the members to be willing to give u that money otherwise u make no money on cam, u sit dead w.o shows and high fees.

    Cheers!

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    I heard models commenting in their own rooms towards their audience "take me, i am the best here, what other girls u see around, e.europeans who's pussy's stink like dead fish?" (LOL, really?)

    WHAT?! I just heard??!! Did she smell my pussy to know if i stink or not?
    That performer was bashing certain nationals & put idea in her audience's heads that we have pussies that stink.
    Like if somebody could smell our puissies thorough the internet Hahahaaa
    See the point? Misconception. Then the guys avoid e.euro girls cause 'we stink' -> boner killer LOL
    SMH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatGirlDynomite!!! View Post
    I kinda think you missed my point right off the bat? I know that misconceptions exist. I know all about adversity and cautionary tales. I will never dispute that when someone says it happens to them. I always believe them by default. It's what you do afterwards is what counts. But I've been thinking a lot this past week. And in a round about sort of way you just inspired me to give myself a raise. I'm gonna increase my prices on every site I work on. All across the board. May even tack on an extra dollar to all my clips? I've been at this too long and know too much to not charge more. Also I rarely get trolled despite my "limitations". I think most trolls know better when they enter my room. So I have no fear there. Im just gonna do it. /ramblings
    You go ahead and raise that fees OK??!! I dont know who u are on cam but i thank u for all the support u offered me here LOVE LOVE!!
    I sometimes miss the point at the 1st read hahaaa but i re-read and get it right then!
    Plus i am just getting awake with a nice hot coffee near me so bare with me xxx

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    I'll be honest, SM hasn't been slow for me Ging. Hasn't been slow for most of the girls I talk to either. I mean, sure, there are bad shifts and slow days, but by and large girls are still making their goals by putting in the hours.

    You've got the placement and I watched you a lot when I was a newbie. To be totally frank, I haven't seen you online much anymore. I know you're busy with school and family, but regularity is the name of the game and I just don't see you on very much.

    Gold shows aren't bringing in $300+ a show anymore for most models and if you aren't online frequently (20+ per week, at least), your high tippers are going to find other models to spend on. You've indicated before in prior posts that you aren't comfortable doing privates/exclusives, but there is a hell of a lot more money in privates--especially fetish--than in gold shows now that the novelty of them is starting to wear off. Gold shows these days are more a way to entice new customers into spending on per-minute shows later on than they are stable income when you have limited hours to cultivate regulars.



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    Quote Originally Posted by hillarylynk View Post
    I'm a terrible person, but it is thrilling to see someone with internet as shitty as what my ISP provides during prime time use hours. That said--I have rural internet with a delivery best described as the Two-Tin-Cans-And-A-String Method, not TWC, which can definitely do better than that.

    Anyway, what's your questions/comment about this speed test exactly?

    No, it's not good enough to stream in HD720 requirements on SM.

    Yes, you should upgrade that--specifically the upload. Download doesn't matter.

    Assuming you're supposed to be getting higher speeds already, call them and yell. Because that's shit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Issabelle View Post
    I'll be honest, SM hasn't been slow for me Ging. Hasn't been slow for most of the girls I talk to either. I mean, sure, there are bad shifts and slow days, but by and large girls are still making their goals by putting in the hours.

    You've got the placement and I watched you a lot when I was a newbie. To be totally frank, I haven't seen you online much anymore. I know you're busy with school and family, but regularity is the name of the game and I just don't see you on very much.

    Gold shows aren't bringing in $300+ a show anymore for most models and if you aren't online frequently (20+ per week, at least), your high tippers are going to find other models to spend on. You've indicated before in prior posts that you aren't comfortable doing privates/exclusives, but there is a hell of a lot more money in privates--especially fetish--than in gold shows now that the novelty of them is starting to wear off. Gold shows these days are more a way to entice new customers into spending on per-minute shows later on than they are stable income when you have limited hours to cultivate regulars.
    Idk Issabelle, I agree with Ginger.... I used to be on SM 2 years ago.... even as a new girl I was consistently pulling money on that site.... It was my main site.... now since coming back .... smh.... I can barely get a guy to speak...I think the girls that you are saying are doing fine, must not be getting affected by the glitches going on... but If you check out the thread venting about sm glitches, it seems that many girls are having issues beyond their control on the site. I've clicked through some rooms and noticed many girls are online but you click there rooms say "not online" when they pbviously are and givin the fact that alot of my in and outs are repetitve (a guy entering 3 -4 times in a row), It's more likely site issues then anything else affecting Ginger. I agree, time online does make a difference, but idk if that really helps in all scenarios with the recent site issues.

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    Guys! How to block country on streamate?

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    ughh i was paying $54 a month for that connetion it was called standard internet with time warner.I just upgraded to the $100 a month plan with time warner called Turbo which is the fastes one they offer in my area.I did this like 5 mins ago and these are my new internet results! Much Faster I hope to get better placement on streammate with this.

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    If your connection is showing different speeds then try a hardline (with a network cable) test. if this is WiFi make sure the tests are within the same distance. Ideally only use the hardline for cam. one you know what your hardline speed is. Cat 5/cat 6/cat 7 cables are the way to go. I use a cat6e shielded cable for the full gb speeds a cheap cat5 is 100mb/10mb speed but limits my upload.

    Are you on cable or adsl as 1.7mbs is very low for cable and is more a adsl speed. in the UK uploads for cable tend to start around 6mbs. Also the router can have an effect on if your connection is stable or not.

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    Idk Issabelle, I agree with Ginger.... I used to be on SM 2 years ago.... even as a new girl I was consistently pulling money on that site.... It was my main site.... now since coming back .... smh.... I can barely get a guy to speak...I think the girls that you are saying are doing fine, must not be getting affected by the glitches going on... but If you check out the thread venting about sm glitches, it seems that many girls are having issues beyond their control on the site. I've clicked through some rooms and noticed many girls are online but you click there rooms say "not online" when they pbviously are and givin the fact that alot of my in and outs are repetitve (a guy entering 3 -4 times in a row), It's more likely site issues then anything else affecting Ginger. I agree, time online does make a difference, but idk if that really helps in all scenarios with the recent site issues.
    Oh, I've gotten the glitches. A number of girls I regularly skype with have also reported them. We've all contacted Liz or support and gotten varying degrees of BS responses about our end being the issue (which was adorable--I emailed Liz four hours before the site crash a few weeks back and then 3 days after she apologized and said it was fixed, got an additional canned response from support that it was my internet, smh). Last week alone, I had customers unable to tip in exclusive (not great with a finsub), another repeatedly booted after 60 seconds in paid, random disconnects/bitrate issues when I can confirm my internet was not the problem, and personally watched four regular posters on here get hit with that nonsense glitch of them being logged in but not showing on the main listings OR the main listing showing them as online when they were logged off OR none of the chat from customers showing up. And those are just the glitches I remember off the top of my head.

    But all of the ladies I mentioned (10+) are still making money. We're reporting our issues and then, well, riding them out. I mean, there was a solid one hour period where we were all messaging each other through the listings glitch trying to connect and kept trying until we did. Money came in after that got sorted. I'm not going to stand here and pretend there aren't legitimate technical issues, because there are. What I will say about is that the only things we can do as models are a) give up, b) ride it out and keep trying until it works on SM, or c) find another site. I'm trying to hang onto options B and C, because A just isn't going to work. It's frustrating and exhausting and certainly a likely culprit in many cases, and I really do get that, but I don't think it's the only explanation for a lack of money flowing in all the time. If I'm not making money, I'm going to look at every possibility--including that it might be something I can rectify. I'd rather try to work more hours than just roll over. And I'm not saying that girls are necessarily blaming tech issues and giving up here--I'm trying to reaffirm that while it is quite possibly glitches, it's also worth doing everything you can on your end to rise above them.

    That said, I'm commenting on Ginger's specific situation because she and I have spoken privately many times and I know who she is on cam. I don't want to violate the no-outing rule here, but I really am trying to tailor that advice to her situation based on what I know about her and I don't think it's something that is explained by glitches alone.


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    ughh i was paying $54 a month for that connetion it was called standard internet with time warner.I just upgraded to the $100 a month plan with time warner called Turbo which is the fastes one they offer in my area.I did this like 5 mins ago and these are my new internet results! Much Faster I hope to get better placement on streammate with this.
    Yes, you really should hardwire that line with an ethernet cable as Selena suggested. It will reduce fluctuations in wi-fi quite a bit. The new upload speed, assuming it holds, is more than enough to stream in HD720 settings on SM though.


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    I'm dealing with the glitches just as much as all of you. Last week I was logged on cam but I was showing offline. This went on for like an hour and others were able to recreate it on their end. I didn't give up and log off. I've doubled the hours I spend on cam to compensate any obstacles the site will and does throw me. I quit doing goldshows all together because I was sick of the site timing out and having to email Liz each time to be compensated. With all this shit, I'm still making my goals.

    Ginger, it maybe time to tweak your goldshow hustle. Give more of an incentive to tip. Raise your minimum tip. When I raised mine from $3 to $5, I was making my goals more often. Maybe try to spend an hour or two in classic then switch to party to do goldshows. I've notice limiting the amount of goldshows make people want to spend more in goldshows because they are now this special rare gem.





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    Glitchville.My feed is skipping bad .Guys can't stay connected to my goldshows .Guys complaining they can't see me.Damn .I could go on but there's no point .

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    Glitchville.My feed is skipping bad .Guys can't stay connected to my goldshows .Guys complaining they can't see me.Damn .I could go on but there's no point .
    Same here Judy. Skipping feed and very pixelated shows. I tried SM Broadcast and the Encoder and had problems with both of them.
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    Thanks Issabelle and Audritwo, I'm trying to spend less time complaining and more time online. Its super tough wasting an hour sitting online with nothing to show for it. But I'm determined today to stick it out for at least 3 hour timeblocks at a time. If others are managing to work through the glitches then maybe I should stop using it as an excuse. Keeping a roof over my head depends on it smh

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    Thanks Issabelle and Audritwo, I'm trying to spend less time complaining and more time online. Its super tough wasting an hour sitting online with nothing to show for it. But I'm determined today to stick it out for at least 3 hour timeblocks at a time. If others are managing to work through the glitches then maybe I should stop using it as an excuse. Keeping a roof over my head depends on it smh
    Preach it girl. I can't tell you how many bong hits and glasses of wine have been consumed while I've worked through glitches. I swear, the more hours I work, the more glitches I see (which, I suppose, makes sense proportionally). It's rough and shitty, but I'm a major bread winner in my house and giving up or in just ain't an option these days. I personally figure there's no point in crying about it or dwelling because it doesn't change the fact that I just need to do it.

    Hold the course, build up the other income streams, and ride it out. That's the best advice I can give anyone. Also, solidarity, because I'm with you.


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    I have had the glitches, showing offline when I am online, majorly freezing, and I have seen a decrease in money made. I do NOT log out. I stay logged in every day, no matter what, I have to, I unfortunately don't have the freedom to just hop online every min of every day to make up for it. I wish I could.. and I am sure there are a lot of us that can't just keep getting online at all hours! SM just needs to fix their shit

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    I think the biggest thing on SM right now is to switch up your approach, I see lots of top girls doing far fewer GS, and Ive personally ramped up how many I do. Im attracting different clients and I think thats a big reason that Ive seen my money flow when I put in my hours. Don't rely on any one thing too long there. But of course it always comes down to putting the time in and I feel like I try so hard, but most weeks I end up clocking less than 10 hours on SM.

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