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    I fucking hate this.

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    I don't understand!
    please can someone explain in simple terms!?
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    this is a total joke .... really not liking this so a 100 creds earned now will be worth fuk all with the extra charges grr grr and more grrr

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    They've put a few new things up on their Help page.

    How will this affect my earnings? Will I still earn as much as I did previously?
    VAT is not applied to your earnings. It will be applied to the admin fee amount and any other charges you levied through use of AdultWork.com's services.
    The amount you withdraw will be subject to the admin fee as usual but this fee attracts EU VAT.

    I don't earn enough to qualify for VAT so why is VAT being applied my behalf?
    Please understand that AdultWork.com does not make up the rules or regulations for VAT.
    The owners of AdultWork.com have received advice as to what is incumbent upon them and implemented things accordingly.
    AdultWork.com's statement on VAT can be found .


    Under current legislation the AdultWork.com Platform is deemed to be a Portal through which third parties sell their digital products and e-services to end consumers. As much as it might seem desirable to avoid the responsibility, the Platform does not meet the mitigating criteria that would exempt it.
    Please consult your local tax office regarding the rules and regulations regarding VAT and selling content or providing services online.
    How are consumers (clients/seeking services) affected? Client is seeing a higher price than I set.
    Please understand that AdultWork.com does not make up the rules or regulations for VAT.
    AdultWork.com's statement on VAT for those Seeking Services can be found .
    For members who are based within the EU and are consuming your content or e-services, which the AdultWork.com Platform is technically distributing, it will mean that they will be charged VAT in addition to your net pricing based on the rate for the country from which they are consuming your service.
    So hopefully it will just be how SM do it and the client pays the VAT from wherever they are. I'm still confused about directcam/admin fee thing so I've emailed them asking but I doubt I'll get a response.

    Edit : They emailed me linking me to the thing I asked for help with and wouldn't clarify any percentages. Grrrrr.
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    ^ So both customers and performers will pay VAT . They add 20% to your cost and that is what customers pay but when you pay your admin fee, you will pay VAT too. Now admin fee it`s 30% you will pay 36% instead.I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sexysusie View Post
    I need to up my anti on MFC asap! At 50% they will be the highest paying site in the market. AW are fucking crazy!
    That's addled my brain. How does it make it 50%? We won't be paying 20% on the 100%, surely? We'll be paying 20% on any of the services we use, the 20% doesn't just get taken when we cash out....or am I misunderstanding this?


    "VAT is not applied to your earnings. It will be applied to the admin fee amount and any other charges you levied through use of AdultWork.com's services." So you're paying 20% on the 30-ish% that they take (plus any services you use, like Featuring). I think.

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    Admin fee 30% becomes 36%,if they will add VAT to directcam fee 5% becomes 6% ,and add an extra 20% to every credit we spend for featuring ,positioning,etc.
    I`m curious now if I`m under european advisor and I pay an advisor fee will I pay VAT for that too ?Guess I`ll calculate tomorrow when this shit starts.

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    If i set my rate to 2.99 the customer will see it as 3.59?

    So for every 100 we withdraw they take 36

    eta: does AW set the JustCamIt rate too? so will that go up to 6%?

    Is anyone going to lower their prices? or will you just make sure all customers know its not your price rise? Maaan i need to up my indy game





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    Yes that is the price your customers will see.
    Yes at least that`s what I figured so far.
    I don`t know if we`ll pay VAT for justcamit but if we do it will be 6% instead of 5% now. I`ve seen it mentioned in the message they sent so I think that will have VAT added also.
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    Well I am confused....I have just put all my prices up on everything photos,vids and so on,should I just of left them as they were,and AW adds on top of my prices for the Customer to see,so we have our prices as say 1.00 and the customer see 1.20 or are we meant to up our prices

    Not getting this at all more I read more I get confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROSIECAM View Post
    Well I am confused....I have just put all my prices up on everything photos,vids and so on,should I just of left them as they were,and AW adds on top of my prices for the Customer to see,so we have our prices as say 1.00 and the customer see 1.20 or are we meant to up our prices

    Not getting this at all more I read more I get confused
    If you set your price as say 1.00 customer will see 1.20.So he will pay 1.20 but you will get 1.From that 1.00 you will pay VAT as well. You might want to up your prices accordingly.

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    Customers should not be paying VAT on our prices unless we are earning £82,000+ (in the UK), it is us providing that service.
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    AW's income comes from the admin charge, not from the credits that we charge, that is our income.
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    So if I get this correct...

    Let's say i charge 1 credit for directcam.
    Then the customer will see 1.20

    and after 1 minute of chat I would have earned £0.45 instead of £0.65 yes?

    Also, what would happen if I would join an AW group that is run by someone outside of the EU?
    Because AW assumes groupmanager handles payments, not the group members.

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    I'm getting more and more confused by this. I charge 2.5 so how much am I actually going to get from that? It's £1.60 roughly so will I lose another 20% on top of that?

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    Does someone employ an accountant they can check with? I don't think they should be charging VAT on our services, it is not their income.
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    I've been reading up on this and looks like it is not just us who got hit with this, it is everyone who sales digital services on the internet such as, e-books, music downloads, web services, etc. The only difference is AW is late in the game to as the deadline to comply was at the beginning of the year.

    Google EU digital VAT. Everyone is confused and some don't even know how to comply or they simply cannot. It's basically a disaster for all small online businesses. I bet even AW doesn't even really understand what is going on, hence, the contradicting information provided by them thus far.

    Also, there is no minimum threshold anymore. So, if you sale something to some in the EU for 1 pound, VAT must paid to the EU state in which the buyer lives. Fucking ridiculous and unenforceable if you ask me.

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    I just emaied my accountant. will let you know what I hear back

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    THIS WAS FROM MY ACCOUNTANT-

    Right so rather than you have to ask and identify each person who sees you and charge vat it will be done for you.. The consumer pays vat.. And you will pay vat as part of your monthly aw admin fee... Those earning at the threshold for vat will be able to obtain a statement identifying vat paid and will be able to claim it on their vat returns
    What you may find is that be is vat is added to the charge for credits.. Less people can afford to stay as long

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    so basically.....we are screwed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blonde-Ambition View Post
    THIS WAS FROM MY ACCOUNTANT-
    The consumer pays vat.. And you will pay vat as part of your monthly aw admin fee...
    I kept saying this like a broken record in the thread today but glad you had an accountant to confirm.Maybe now it will be all clear if aw help center wasn't clear enough.They explained quite well in there though.

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    Naturally the consumer pays VAT...the issue is that VAT is being charged for our services regardless of whether we earn the threshold of £82,000 or not. Sure "Those earning at the threshold for vat will be able to obtain a statement identifying vat paid and will be able to claim it on their vat returns" but the customer shouldn't have to pay VAT when we are not at that threshold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nadia29 View Post
    I've been reading up on this and looks like it is not just us who got hit with this, it is everyone who sales digital services on the internet such as, e-books, music downloads, web services, etc. The only difference is AW is late in the game to as the deadline to comply was at the beginning of the year.

    Google EU digital VAT. Everyone is confused and some don't even know how to comply or they simply cannot. It's basically a disaster for all small online businesses. I bet even AW doesn't even really understand what is going on, hence, the contradicting information provided by them thus far.

    Also, there is no minimum threshold anymore. So, if you sale something to some in the EU for 1 pound, VAT must paid to the EU state in which the buyer lives. Fucking ridiculous and unenforceable if you ask me.
    Can you please provide some links to where this is the new norm. Like can you share where you've read this?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Classy_Katy View Post
    Naturally the consumer pays VAT...the issue is that VAT is being charged for our services regardless of whether we earn the threshold of £82,000 or not. Sure "Those earning at the threshold for vat will be able to obtain a statement identifying vat paid and will be able to claim it on their vat returns" but the customer shouldn't have to pay VAT when we are not at that threshold.
    I don't know how things are in the UK.Hell,I don't even know how they are in my country.Regarding VAT ,I mean.But why do you care if the customer is paying VAT?Let the fuckers pay,they got used too much with 0.6/min pussy,I'm glad they'll pay more now.SM customers pay VAT.It was about the time the cheapos on AW to pay as well.

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    This site explains it quite well but concentrates more on the EU side that just UK.

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