Page 208 of 546 FirstFirst ... 108158198206207208209210218258308 ... LastLast
Results 5,176 to 5,200 of 13637

Thread: The AdultWork Thread

  1. #5176
    God/dess CatBBW's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2013
    Location
    ENGLAND
    Posts
    2,126
    Thanks
    3,227
    Thanked 2,894 Times in 1,040 Posts

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyK View Post
    I personally think what tax/ni we pay has nothing to do with AW
    Exactly. They know my bank account number, my address, my passport details, my shoe size, and the amount of pussy hair I have....they do NOT need to know how much tax I pay (or owe), just that I AM registered and I DO submit tax returns.

  2. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to CatBBW For This Useful Post:


  3. #5177
    Member
    Joined
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    32
    Thanks
    17
    Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    LOL at the (or owe) part

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to CrazyK For This Useful Post:


  5. #5178
    Veteran Member Arwen25's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2014
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    720
    Thanks
    967
    Thanked 952 Times in 412 Posts

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    Hello ladies,

    I was wondering if anyone could tell me what might have happened here..am trying to connect on Justcamit and am getting:
    Server Status : Connecting to Server, wait....
    Server Status : Cannot Connect to Server

    Again and again..does anyone know what this might be and how I could resolve it?

    Thanks a lot x

  6. #5179
    Veteran Member miss cleo's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2005
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    502
    Thanks
    2,165
    Thanked 466 Times in 183 Posts
    My Mood
    Inspired

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    Its happening to me too

  7. The Following User Says Thank You to miss cleo For This Useful Post:


  8. #5180
    God/dess CatBBW's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2013
    Location
    ENGLAND
    Posts
    2,126
    Thanks
    3,227
    Thanked 2,894 Times in 1,040 Posts

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Arwen25 View Post
    Hello ladies,

    I was wondering if anyone could tell me what might have happened here..am trying to connect on Justcamit and am getting:
    Server Status : Connecting to Server, wait....
    Server Status : Cannot Connect to Server

    Again and again..does anyone know what this might be and how I could resolve it?

    Thanks a lot x
    Adultwork wasn't working earlier, looks like it's gone again.

  9. The Following User Says Thank You to CatBBW For This Useful Post:


  10. #5181
    Veteran Member Arwen25's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2014
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    720
    Thanks
    967
    Thanked 952 Times in 412 Posts

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    Oh, thank you for the heads up, Cat. I've never actually had problems with the software itself, only loading the site, so I was a bit alarmed! Not good at all! Don't have a massive window to cam in today. x x

    And of course, SM is dead..oh dear!

  11. #5182
    God/dess sexysusie's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2012
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    5,664
    Thanks
    8,080
    Thanked 10,332 Times in 3,728 Posts
    My Mood
    Aggressive

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Elsa View Post
    I'm from Belgium but living the UK for years.
    On the government website of Belgium it says that audio or video / cam feed fall under the digital goods law.

    So, yeah fuck.

    Does this mean that everyone who got their VAT details approved, now are rejected again? Or is it just CatBBW?
    Where does it say this? Can you send me a screenshot please? Would be very useful to have info from different states. As far as EU goes the directives state that live webinar, online teaching etc are NOT digital services. only things that are automated or require minimal human intervention fall into the definition.
    "If you want to earn more, learn more" ~ Zig Ziglar




  12. The Following User Says Thank You to sexysusie For This Useful Post:


  13. #5183
    God/dess Classy_Katy's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2012
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    3,723
    Thanks
    2,153
    Thanked 5,404 Times in 2,257 Posts

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    I was on for a couple of hours today...all the shows were under 2 minutes, and privates were about 30 seconds...not sure if that was me, my prices or AW issues. The site looks as busy as usual but most of the girls in paid were charging less than me. I can't connect at the moment either.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]


    Follow me on Twitter @ClassyKatyxxx

  14. #5184
    Veteran Member Arwen25's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2014
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    720
    Thanks
    967
    Thanked 952 Times in 412 Posts

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    Oh goodness..sorry to hear you're having problems getting connected too..it's been over an hour now for me at least. Fingers crossed it sorts itself out soon. x

  15. #5185
    God/dess Classy_Katy's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2012
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    3,723
    Thanks
    2,153
    Thanked 5,404 Times in 2,257 Posts

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    Thanks Arwen Lots of girls are online so maybe it's our particular server.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]


    Follow me on Twitter @ClassyKatyxxx

  16. The Following User Says Thank You to Classy_Katy For This Useful Post:


  17. #5186
    God/dess sexysusie's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2012
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    5,664
    Thanks
    8,080
    Thanked 10,332 Times in 3,728 Posts
    My Mood
    Aggressive

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    This is a good and simply write up of the new EU laws for those still in the dark http://www.britmums.com/2014/12/will...tal-mess-2015/
    "If you want to earn more, learn more" ~ Zig Ziglar




  18. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to sexysusie For This Useful Post:


  19. #5187
    God/dess sexysusie's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2012
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    5,664
    Thanks
    8,080
    Thanked 10,332 Times in 3,728 Posts
    My Mood
    Aggressive

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    For those who want to read the guidelines in full (which i recommend) https://www.gov.uk/government/public...vate-consumers

    The parts specifically relevant to us:
    https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-by-the-change (These new changes should NOT apply to our services except for galleries/ movies)
    https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ivate-consumer (We should not be charged VAT on our AW admin fee)
    "If you want to earn more, learn more" ~ Zig Ziglar




  20. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to sexysusie For This Useful Post:


  21. #5188
    God/dess Classy_Katy's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2012
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    3,723
    Thanks
    2,153
    Thanked 5,404 Times in 2,257 Posts

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    I'm on DirectIM this morning and a customer can't get into private with me...I've quilted and gone back in which usually works but no joy, so now I've added group and he still can't get in. Wonderful!!!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]


    Follow me on Twitter @ClassyKatyxxx

  22. #5189
    Veteran Member Blue-Velvet's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2015
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    397
    Thanks
    589
    Thanked 558 Times in 251 Posts
    My Mood
    Dead

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by sexysusie View Post
    For those who want to read the guidelines in full (which i recommend) https://www.gov.uk/government/public...vate-consumers

    The parts specifically relevant to us:
    https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-by-the-change (These new changes should NOT apply to our services except for galleries/ movies)
    https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ivate-consumer (We should not be charged VAT on our AW admin fee)
    So, looking at the "Examples of electronic supplies and whether or not they are 'digital services'", I would say we fall under the "webinar" category, which is exempt. Looking up what "webinar" actually means (although it seems pretty self-explanatory), it says "a seminar or other presentation that takes place on the Internet, allowing participants in different locations to see and hear the presenter, ask questions, and sometimes answer polls". I mean, that's pretty much hitting the nail on the head, right? They ask questions, "Give us a twirl, bb?" and we instruct them on the correct use of their penises.

    To me, it looks like the VAT changes apply in instances where something is already created and automatically supplied by clicking a button, ie. our pre-recorded videos, photos, etc, rather than things that require an actual human being to do the transmitting, ie. webcam, phone chat, custom-made content. The question is, is AW really going to take any of this on board? It feels like they're just slapping a blanket VAT on everything to cover all bases.

  23. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Blue-Velvet For This Useful Post:


  24. #5190
    Senior Member Elsa's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2015
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    84
    Thanks
    6
    Thanked 114 Times in 40 Posts

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by sexysusie View Post
    Where does it say this? Can you send me a screenshot please? Would be very useful to have info from different states. As far as EU goes the directives state that live webinar, online teaching etc are NOT digital services. only things that are automated or require minimal human intervention fall into the definition.
    The website is not in English.

    But it specifically says "webcam services" and "phone services".

    This is probably why it goes wrong, if every EU country has other interpertations of the law and AW based in Cyprus, they will have no clue what to follow or who's advise to take.

  25. #5191
    Veteran Member Sally Says's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    531
    Thanks
    504
    Thanked 742 Times in 290 Posts

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    My new details have been accepted again. until they change their minds again LOL

    Now I just have to hope that my internet connection can last the night, as it went off at 10:30 last night

  26. #5192
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Feb 2014
    Posts
    872
    Thanks
    391
    Thanked 660 Times in 339 Posts

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by justme23 View Post
    I've contacted AW regard the VAT discounted of my webcam bookings sessions and they said, that they don't charge us VAT of our earnings, and now i am pretty sure that the guys are lowering the amount of credits, they want us to absorb the VAT on skype bookings as they can't do anything against this on DirectCam sessions, so they try on webcam sessions, and is about new members i never saw before, because my regulars seems that they do respect my rates. I made some math and they lowered the amount with 20% less and others lowered including with even more... 40%, wtf... fuck them... i leave always the booking to expire... and i make them booking until they do respect my rates or they can move their ass on DirectCam if not ... fuck them , i not want cheap arses anymore ... so after the session they can leave negative feedback... cheap arses have to be avoided... one time i have accepted a cheap guy and he left me negative feedback because he expected the moon for 10 credits, wtf!
    Models end up paying the VAT - there's no way around it... The reason I say this is because when a customer buys credit, be it 50 credits, 100 credits or whatever, that is what he spends on his sessions and that's it. He will get 20 - 25% (depending on his country of residence in EU) less time in private for the same purchase. He's not going to up his credit purchases by exactly 20 - 25% to compensate for the increased rates, so despite him "respecting" the new VAT adjusted rates, he just spends less time in private.

    Therefore us models have to consider one of 2 choices - lowering our prices by 20 - 25%, or keeping them the same. If you keep your prices the same or lower them, the customer will likely still spend the same on you, but you will work 20 - 25% longer if you lower the rates. There's another compelling reason why lowering rates is a BAD idea - non-EU based customers do NOT see the VAT adjusted rates so you'll lose 20 - 25% on those customers or work 20 - 25% longer for the same commission. My biggest spenders are non-EU based customers, so there's no way I'm going to lower my rates for them and at the same time work 20 - 25% longer for the same money with my EU based customers.

  27. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to tropo For This Useful Post:


  28. #5193
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Feb 2014
    Posts
    872
    Thanks
    391
    Thanked 660 Times in 339 Posts

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TawnyAsstronut View Post
    So AW r charging us 20% of 35% admin fee 4 direct cam, which is 7%, so now we earnings 58% instead of 65% BUT 58% of 0 is 0 so haha on them!! anyone wants 2 get the moneu back need raise old rate by 7% for directcam and 6% for skype and sales.

    They getting 7% frum us an 20% frum EU customer an they in cyprus an not EU so thy just give themselve 27% raise!! i hopes they use some of thats 2 increase traffic cuz it dead now i out of biznes an i dun even lives in EU
    Customers based out of the EU zone will not see VAT adjusted prices. I suspect a European model will get a lot of interested from customers based outside the EU. Some countries pay as high as 25% VAT (Norway?).

    I've lived in a country when VAT taxes were first introduced. There's always a widespread panic to new taxes. It will settle down over time.

    AW doesn't make more profit by VAT adjustments as that money is collected by the EU tax authorities. AW are not going to find this transition profitable and they are not doing this because they want to. The only way I can see AW winning from this is if a high percentage of models panic and lower their prices - which will add to overall site popularity, particularly outside the EU zone. This will indirectly help the higher charging models too due to increased traffic.

    Who knows? Maybe the new owners have a plan to move to a tax haven. Apple escapes high US taxes by keeping cash reserves in tax havens - why couldn't AW do the same? It's an internet based company - easy to move.

  29. The Following User Says Thank You to tropo For This Useful Post:


  30. #5194
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Feb 2014
    Posts
    872
    Thanks
    391
    Thanked 660 Times in 339 Posts

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by HEATHER7679 View Post
    I'm confused about this whole VAT thing , I'm a model from the US are they taking the 20 percent from me too?
    As long as you're verified and have another proof you live outside the EU, you won't be charged VAT on top of your 30% administration fee. Verifying a US phone number is the easiest way.
    Last edited by tropo; 10-17-2015 at 07:04 AM.

  31. #5195
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Feb 2014
    Posts
    872
    Thanks
    391
    Thanked 660 Times in 339 Posts

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by sexysusie View Post
    They ARE still taking advice on this though, I'm working on making them understand that VAT shouldn't be payable on our services at all as they don't fall into the definition of "digital goods or services". They are listening albeit changing their minds everyday based on the (bad) advice they are getting from their accountants in Cyprus.
    Great if you're right, but the way I see it is we pay AW an administration fee (30% +VAT) for the service they provide us. AW doesn't pay us commission, we pay them a service fee.

    I haven't been online since October 1. Are they now charging 6% for JCI fees for models based in EU?
    Last edited by tropo; 10-17-2015 at 07:15 AM.

  32. #5196
    Senior Member TawnyAsstronut's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    110
    Thanks
    114
    Thanked 32 Times in 21 Posts

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by tropo View Post
    Customers based out of the EU zone will not see VAT adjusted prices. I suspect a European model will get a lot of interested from customers based outside the EU. Some countries pay as high as 25% VAT (Norway?).

    I've lived in a country when VAT taxes were first introduced. There's always a widespread panic to new taxes. It will settle down over time.

    AW doesn't make more profit by VAT adjustments as that money is collected by the EU tax authorities. AW are not going to find this transition profitable and they are not doing this because they want to. The only way I can see AW winning from this is if a high percentage of models panic and lower their prices - which will add to overall site popularity, particularly outside the EU zone. This will indirectly help the higher charging models too due to increased traffic.

    Who knows? Maybe the new owners have a plan to move to a tax haven. Apple escapes high US taxes by keeping cash reserves in tax havens - why couldn't AW do the same? It's an internet based company - easy to move.
    VAT Tax, Sales Tax, GST, what ever u wants 2 call it govt rely on honesty 4 the tax 2 b paid. My lawyer here in philipine he alwuz add 20% sale tax an i know he not givin it 2 the govt he put it in his pocket.

    I dun knows AW get new owners,,,when that happen???

  33. #5197
    Member
    Joined
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    32
    Thanks
    17
    Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts

    Thumbs down Re: The AdultWork Thread

    Aw rejected my 2nd lot of paperwork. I really dont know what it is they want from us? They have no right to see how much Tax/Ni we pay..surely?

    I have messaged Aw yesterday to ask what docs they do want..still waiting for a reply though
    Last edited by CrazyK; 10-17-2015 at 01:26 PM. Reason: add on

  34. #5198
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Feb 2014
    Posts
    872
    Thanks
    391
    Thanked 660 Times in 339 Posts

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TawnyAsstronut View Post
    VAT Tax, Sales Tax, GST, what ever u wants 2 call it govt rely on honesty 4 the tax 2 b paid. My lawyer here in philipine he alwuz add 20% sale tax an i know he not givin it 2 the govt he put it in his pocket.

    I dun knows AW get new owners,,,when that happen???
    If you're streaming from the Philippines, you shouldn't be paying VAT on administration fees. You have to be verified and have another proof of where you live.

  35. The Following User Says Thank You to tropo For This Useful Post:


  36. #5199
    Senior Member TawnyAsstronut's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    110
    Thanks
    114
    Thanked 32 Times in 21 Posts

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by tropo View Post
    If you're streaming from the Philippines, you shouldn't be paying VAT on administration fees. You have to be verified and have another proof of where you live.
    im verifid in philippines an 4 sure aw take 20% of there 30% an eu people pay extra per minute on me an i not earn anything an will switching new site soon as i can

  37. #5200
    God/dess sexysusie's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2012
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    5,664
    Thanks
    8,080
    Thanked 10,332 Times in 3,728 Posts
    My Mood
    Aggressive

    Default Re: The AdultWork Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Elsa View Post
    The website is not in English.

    But it specifically says "webcam services" and "phone services".

    This is probably why it goes wrong, if every EU country has other interpertations of the law and AW based in Cyprus, they will have no clue what to follow or who's advise to take.
    I've looked but can't find this anywhere. A search on the belgian government website comes p with nothing. Would you mind sending me a link or screenshot? Really keen to see how things are worded or alluded to on other country official sites. Thanks
    "If you want to earn more, learn more" ~ Zig Ziglar




Similar Threads

  1. Dailypay Group being featured on Adultwork
    By PrincessJenny in forum Camming Connection
    Replies: 41
    Last Post: 01-12-2012, 04:45 PM
  2. Adultwork.com
    By Victoria669Jones in forum Other Work
    Replies: 36
    Last Post: 08-10-2010, 10:32 PM
  3. Adultwork.com
    By dollywoodX in forum Other Work
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 04-02-2010, 01:11 AM
  4. Adultwork.com
    By GoldCoastGirl in forum Other Work
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 12-15-2009, 06:07 PM
  5. Something Awfuk: A thread about my thread
    By VeraLynn in forum The Lounge
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 05-11-2008, 04:40 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •