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    Quote Originally Posted by sexysusie View Post
    I've looked but can't find this anywhere. A search on the belgian government website comes p with nothing. Would you mind sending me a link or screenshot? Really keen to see how things are worded or alluded to on other country official sites. Thanks
    Om welke digitale diensten gaat het?

    • Elektronische diensten.

    Dit zijn diensten die over het internet of een digitaal netwerk worden geleverd. Ze zijn grotendeels geautomatiseerd en kunnen niet zonder informatietechnologie worden geleverd.

    Voorbeelden:
    onlineverkeersinformatie en -weerberichten, onlinedagbladen en –tijdschriften, onlinegegevensopslag, toegang tot of downloaden van software, gebruik van zoekmachines en onlinespelen.


    • Telecommunicatiediensten.

    Deze diensten gaan over de transmissie, uitzending of ontvangst van signalen, tekst, beelden, geluiden of informatie via draad, radiogolven, optische of andere elektromagnetische systemen. Daarbij horen ook de overdracht en het verlenen van het recht om gebruik te maken van capaciteit voor een dergelijke transmissie, uitzending of ontvangst.

    Voorbeelden:
    telefonie, sms, toegang tot internet en voicemail.

    I cant make screenshots on my tablet. Above is the text on the website of the Netherlands.
    Will look for the Belgian one in my tablet history later.

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    Translated that says:

    To which digital services are involved?

    Electronic services.

    These are services that are delivered over the Internet or a digital network. They are largely automated and can not do without information technology are supplied .

    Examples:
    online traffic and weather reports , online newspapers and journals , online data storage , access to or downloading of software , use of search engines and online play .


    Telecommunications services.

    These services over the transmission , emission or reception of signals, writing , images, sounds or information by wire, radio, optical or other electromagnetic systems. This also includes the transfer or assignment of the right to use capacity for such transmission , emission or reception .

    Examples:
    telephony , text messaging, Internet access and voicemail .

    Which is the same as the gov.uk info. It doesn't say webcam is a digital service, it says digital services are largely or completely automated.
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    CATBBW.....They rejected mine again too Im like you..what we pay tax/Ni wise is nothing to do with them
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    I'm not bothered if they know how much I earn...I am bothered though that they have so much information that could be used identify theft if they get hacked. Our earnings show that we are trading, and this is what they need proof of...they fact that we are working on their site should show this but they want it in an official document.

    I haven't been on IM again yet today but very frustrated a potential customer could not get into paid with me. Will try to upload another doc now...

    Edit - the page isn't accepting the doc I'm trying to attach for the last section...comes up as if I haven't added anything, aarrgghh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sexysusie View Post
    Translated that says:

    To which digital services are involved?

    Electronic services.

    These are services that are delivered over the Internet or a digital network. They are largely automated and can not do without information technology are supplied .

    Examples:
    online traffic and weather reports , online newspapers and journals , online data storage , access to or downloading of software , use of search engines and online play .


    Telecommunications services.

    These services over the transmission , emission or reception of signals, writing , images, sounds or information by wire, radio, optical or other electromagnetic systems. This also includes the transfer or assignment of the right to use capacity for such transmission , emission or reception .

    Examples:
    telephony , text messaging, Internet access and voicemail .

    Which is the same as the gov.uk info. It doesn't say webcam is a digital service, it says digital services are largely or completely automated.
    It says: telecommunication services: broadcasting signals, sounds or video.

    It also effect erotic webcamming. A website that offers "paranormal readings" through webcam (you connect to their chatroom just the same as you would on any erotic webcam website) is also effect by this law. I don't think it will make a difference if you tell people their granny looks over them, or if you tell them their sweaty penis is just what we were waiting for all day, law wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elsa View Post
    It says: telecommunication services: broadcasting signals, sounds or video.

    It also effect erotic webcamming. A website that offers "paranormal readings" through webcam (you connect to their chatroom just the same as you would on any erotic webcam website) is also effect by this law. I don't think it will make a difference if you tell people their granny looks over them, or if you tell them their sweaty penis is just what we were waiting for all day, law wise.
    Hehehe!! You wins!! Most funny post i reads today!!

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    Trying not to lose my cool with AW right now. This is what they say they need - http://www.adultwork.com/LKBA.asp?A=765

    It includes - A Personal Tax return stating you are Self-employed showing a profit or a loss.

    BUT tax returns do not state that we are self-employed...it is implicit because it is in our own name! Email sent again...

    EDIT - found a section on the tax return that talks about self employment - trying again!

    EDIT - a tax return isn't evidence of running a business - so our contract with AW isn't evidence of that?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Classy_Katy View Post
    Trying not to lose my cool with AW right now. This is what they say they need - http://www.adultwork.com/LKBA.asp?A=765

    It includes - A Personal Tax return stating you are Self-employed showing a profit or a loss.

    BUT tax returns do not state that we are self-employed...it is implicit because it is in our own name! Email sent again...

    EDIT - found a section on the tax return that talks about self employment - trying again!

    EDIT - a tax return isn't evidence of running a business - so our contract with AW isn't evidence of that?!
    hehehe AW self emplyment!! it mor like guy givin me candy money to molst me!! i movin on with my life,,,i rather collect recycle thn headache over this,,,how u surviv on this??? cam biz wast of time unless u have sum special powers.

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    I don't have to pay the bills...otherwise I couldn't!

    I see that they will accept an NI demand/acknowledge of payment...I'll try that if my latest attempt fails!
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    I cant find any mention of self employment on my tax return and ive binned the letters about NI so ive emailed my accountant asking him to forward me something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss cleo View Post
    I cant find any mention of self employment on my tax return and ive binned the letters about NI so ive emailed my accountant asking him to forward me something.
    It's on the first page of my online return, it's just one line asking if you were self employed that year, under the heading "what makes up your tax return". They want the whole page so they can see it's yours. Your return may look different though if done by an accountant.
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    I cannot find mention of erotic webcamming anywhere?

    The definition of "digital goods" is the same broadly speaking, across all EU member states. They are "largely automated" with "Minimal human interaction" https://www.taxamo.com/definition-of-e-services/


    Quote Originally Posted by Elsa View Post
    It says: telecommunication services: broadcasting signals, sounds or video.

    It also effect erotic webcamming. A website that offers "paranormal readings" through webcam (you connect to their chatroom just the same as you would on any erotic webcam website) is also effect by this law. I don't think it will make a difference if you tell people their granny looks over them, or if you tell them their sweaty penis is just what we were waiting for all day, law wise.
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    what did you end up sending in please sally?
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    My new details have been accepted again. until they change their minds again LOL

    Now I just have to hope that my internet connection can last the night, as it went off at 10:30 last night

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    did anything get accepted katy?
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    I don't have to pay the bills...otherwise I couldn't!

    I see that they will accept an NI demand/acknowledge of payment...I'll try that if my latest attempt fails!

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    Finally accepted again! I sent the first page of my last tax return (which I did online) that had my name, address, UTR and the self employed bit. I had earlier sent the page that had my profit/loss. I also sent a pic of my passport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sexysusie View Post
    I cannot find mention of erotic webcamming anywhere?

    The definition of "digital goods" is the same broadly speaking, across all EU member states. They are "largely automated" with "Minimal human interaction" https://www.taxamo.com/definition-of-e-services/
    There is no need to mention erotic webcamming, it contains all signal, video and audio feed.
    I'm not happy with it, but cammming falls under the digital VAT law.

    What is weird, is that we pay the VAT to AW, we should be able to keep it and to pay it with our taxes at the end of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TawnyAsstronut View Post
    im verifid in philippines an 4 sure aw take 20% of there 30% an eu people pay extra per minute on me an i not earn anything an will switching new site soon as i can
    I was trying to help you, but you weren't listening. If you are a Philippine resident and streaming from the Philippines, you will NOT be charged VAT on your administration fee. This has been covered in an AW help article, stating you have to send 2 proofs of your Philippine residence. If you are already a verified model, then all you need is one more proof such as a verified phone number, a utility bill etc. If you have satisfied AW VAT exempt requirements you will see "VAT: PH exempt" on the very bottom of your profile page.

    Also, all customers accessing AW from outside the EU zone will not see the VAT adjusted rates.

    Obviously as a Philippine resident you are not subject to EU VAT.

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    It only includes video feed when it's a recording of a previous live feed, or when it's broadcast at the same time as being shown on TV. Live webcam does not count, it's the same as "live webinar" and online teaching that is real time. HMRC have confirmed this. Read the guidelines. There's a reason so many of us are caught up in researching this - AW are wrong in how they are interpreting the directives. For you to sit back and say oh well that's how it is, you must have money to burn. lucky you!




    Quote Originally Posted by Elsa View Post
    There is no need to mention erotic webcamming, it contains all signal, video and audio feed.
    I'm not happy with it, but cammming falls under the digital VAT law.

    What is weird, is that we pay the VAT to AW, we should be able to keep it and to pay it with our taxes at the end of the year.
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    We're not minimum interaction...our content is, but webcam shows aren't. I just checked with a UK psychic site...works like AW, you find the person you want, click and get connected, and they're not charging VAT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sexysusie View Post
    It only includes video feed when it's a recording of a previous live feed, or when it's broadcast at the same time as being shown on TV. Live webcam does not count, it's the same as "live webinar" and online teaching that is real time. HMRC have confirmed this. Read the guidelines. There's a reason so many of us are caught up in researching this - AW are wrong in how they are interpreting the directives. For you to sit back and say oh well that's how it is, you must have money to burn. lucky you!
    Belgian government phone-helpline says live video feed also falls under the digital goods law, as well as phone calls to for example a paranormal company.
    You also have to pay VAT if you have a company, let's say I would own an online shop (no physical shops) and I would have a service number for customers to ask qustions about products or services. That service would also fall under the VAT service.

    At least, this is what the Belgian government says.

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    My VAT details got accepted on Saturday ... And they took there 6% admin charge off. My money got transferred today. What it says on the transfer page wasn't what I got transferred my money is short?!? Has anyone else had this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Classy_Katy View Post
    Finally accepted again! I sent the first page of my last tax return (which I did online) that had my name, address, UTR and the self employed bit. I had earlier sent the page that had my profit/loss. I also sent a pic of my passport.
    I can't see that part on my online SA!?
    It just shows me how much I made and how much I paid in tax and NI?
    has my UTR at the top of the page but nothing about being self employed
    this is tax return from 2014 tho as accountant has all my 2015 bits ready to process

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    Ki, ill be transferring tomorrow so will keep an eye out!

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    Yea the money I got paid today def isn't what is on my transfer history let me know how u get on x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Princess_ki View Post
    Yea the money I got paid today def isn't what is on my transfer history let me know how u get on x
    I've just looked and I'm pretty sure they have screwed me out of almost £10. Going to wait until tomorrow when more details will show on my bank statement, just in case the money is from somewhere else (but I'm 99.99% sure it's from AW).

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