Sad but another example to NOT drink and drive.
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Sad but another example to NOT drink and drive.
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I am not a fan of the 'Jackass' show at all, however a life lost at this young age, especially through alcohol abuse, is very sad. The tragedy is that some-one else was killed too. My thoughts are with both their families.
Last edited by pussyinboots; 06-21-2011 at 11:26 PM.
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Cue people saying how he deserved it because he was drunk and how his death saved legal fees.










I dont understand..is that why you deleted the last thread?
Its not about deserving to die...at least not to me. Even though my own father was killed by a drunk driver and I wont make excuses for people who do drive drunk, I dont think anyone *deserves* to die because of it.
^^^Scores of people who think otherwise. It's really quite sick, people discounting his death on SPECULATION. I mean, they're being vicious. It has only been implied that they would test his blood for alcohol and people are running with it. He's not a BAD person. He just may have made a very stupid mistake.
Thing is I saw him on that gameshow last week with Steve-O where you have to complete zany challenges in a minute or less for money. They were donating the money they won to organizations for needy children. So I now know him as more than that guy who shoved a toy car up his bum (as most elsewhere have repeatedly referenced).
aww RIP Ryan
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Hmmm, some actually think this is a hoax. Google it.
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I was never into or a fan of jackass...I think I saw an episode of it once on MTV about 3 years ago or so... But his job was to be a sensationalist and do crazy stuff... with most entertainers, what they do on screen isnt a sum of who they are in their personal lives.
I know that I personally have strong feelings against drunk driving cause of how it affected my life, and also once got into an accident while driving with my then bf and my daughter in the car cause a DD nearly drove into me, but to me its more of a responsibility thing. Like, not only for the person behind the wheel, but also...the people who let them behind the wheel and people on the road who could see someone is driving erratically.
I have hidden peoples keys...very angry drunk people who I had to get mean with in return. And I have called the cops on someone I see driving like that. I also have a friend who I have flipped out on plenty enough times cause of his drinking and getting on the road...Im zero tolerance and yeah like I said, make no excuses for it. To me its not just a stupid mistake...it can be a very serious and deadly one. Thats not something to take lightly.
But...all the same, it doesnt mean someone deserves to die for it. Id rather people have tough friends or deal with a tough cop than land in the morgue. And like I said in the other post as well...I really dont know what is worse really, dying or living with knowing you killed someone else due to drunk driving. Thats a huge weight to bear...





my roommate's comment when i said he that died while driving: "he died while driving a car? not a shopping cart?"
The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.
That car looked like it got thrown up by a dragon.
"Well done. Here are the test results: You are a horrible person. I'm serious, that's what it says: 'A horrible person.' We weren't even testing for that."





The more I read about this too... I dont know, I get the feeling it may have been more than just alcohol. Like, hes a big guy, and friends reported he didnt really have that much to drink. Not that it means much of anything, a person can be drunk and unable to drive without totally appearing to be...
But speeds in excess of 100mph? Thats not just driving crazily, thats like daredevil type stuff. I kind of wonder if he was pulling a "lets see how fast this baby can go" type thing to the passenger and lost control....lack of judgement still, maybe due to alcohol, but also sounds like some machismo tossed in. To do that kind of damage, something wild was going on there.
Im just speculating like anyone else though...who knows really at this point...its all under investigation still.





According to his friends, he didn't drink enough to impair his driving. I don't know if that's true or not, but regardless, I'm glad he didn't kill anyone else.
You don't need to be really impaired to crash at 130 mph. And you don't need any reason to go 130 mph besides "i have a porsche".
"Well done. Here are the test results: You are a horrible person. I'm serious, that's what it says: 'A horrible person.' We weren't even testing for that."





Never seen Jackass, but I had a lackey from the show come to the booth a couple years ago Spring Break and he flipped the fuck out when I had no idea Steve-O was and didn't do a 'shout out' for him. He was in a state of shock, it was funny as hell. I couldn't even remember the name of the show or Steve-O after a few months, I thought it was Spike or something.
OK, sorry, nothing funny about a guy killing himself in a horrible wreck.
I can't really condemn the guy, except he killed his friend. I know I gave a few girls rides on my bikes after parties, a couple wanted wild rides and I gave them to them. If I'd lost control and crashed, I would have been responsible for killing them while showing off under the influence. I also crashed my 2nd bike while pissed off and drunk as hell. I never killed anyone, though. I'm not proud of it, but it was a long time ago.
But then I got hit head on by a repeat offender DWI (3 previous!) leaving the scene. This guy got away because he ran away on foot, left me for dead after I cracked his radiator with the bike. Then I couldn't ID him and wouldn't lie to the cop, even though he almost told me I could. They wanted to put him away before he killed someone else.
Who knows if he was drunk or not, some people hide it well, and some bigger guys can drink like crazy. But then sometimes they also think they are immortal. The most scared I have been in a car might be when a friend of mine from Chicago, a rich alcoholic who was drunk, pissed off at getting stood up, and showing off how fast his jag could go on the Chicago expressways, made me very glad to get out of that car a little later. That was not a fun ride.
I don't buy the manager of the restaurant saying he didn't appear drunk, he's not going to say anything else or he'll get sued. But maybe he wasn't and was just showing off instead.
Bottom line is, he killed his friend as well as himself--there's the real tragedy.
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Nobody forced the passenger to get in the car either. When people say at least he didn't kill anyone else they mean innocent bystanders, the passengers are just as guilty as he was.
"Well done. Here are the test results: You are a horrible person. I'm serious, that's what it says: 'A horrible person.' We weren't even testing for that."





We don't know ther respective dovetailed and won't for another few weeks.
Also perhaps the passenger was too drunk to judge sobriety of the driver. It is not the passengers job to remain sober or act as a breathalyzer. And we don't know for sure that Dunn was drunk.
In all seriousness, this is sad. Regardless if intoxication, I don't wish to see anyone die in a car crash.
And in regards to speeding, I doubt that the posters on this board had never done something a bit risky when driving for the adrenaline rush. Maybe there are a few ineffable responsible folk here, but most of us aren't so innocent.
The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.





You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
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I can honestly say Ive never driven over 100mph..at least not in a car, a roller coaster maybe. ....not everyone is after an adrenaline rush like that though. Has nothing to do with innocence, its just not everyones thing to do.
But still, its not a matter of saying he gets what he deserves for what he did, its a matter of not excusing or rationalizing a decision that ultimately killed him and his passenger. Of course we can all do whatever we want, whether that be speeding, drunk driving, being a daredevil, what have you... but along with that comes personal responsibility for the rewards/consequences of our actions.
Two people died. Thats serious and not something that, at least I cannot rationalize away or excuse as something he was doing that everyone wants to do anyway.





^^what i am saying is death is the ultimate consequence. to say someone deserves what they get in this situation is heartless IMO.
that being said, being an idiot always comes with a risk. it sounds like from the article at least he decided to be an idiot when nobody else was on the road.
The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.





To say? I did not say he deserved what he got. On the contrary, I said from the start up there and even in my post you are pointing up to, that I dont believe anyone deserves to die and its not about that.
I just believe theres no rationalizing or justification for reckless behavior and the resulting outcome. In other words, the exact same thing you just summed up...being an idiot comes with a risk.
I have driven over 140 MPH multiple times and I will tell you that the sense of speed and the finicky nature of the car will be exponential when driving that fast. It doesn't matter that he was driving a Porsche 911 GT3, the car may be track ready from the factory but the sad truth is not many people maintain their vehicles. As well I doubt that he knew enough about his car to take it that fast safely.
I don't mean to spew automotive knowledge here but where the crash happened is def. not far enough for the tires to warm up, and driving 110 on streets with cold tires is a BIG no-no. I wouldn't even trust 110 on cold tires on a race track with a helmet!
I agree with you that there is a responsibility not only on the part of the driver, but the passenger. The driver should know that the life of his passenger/s are held in his hands and therefore should think more than once about it maneuvers. As well it is the driver's responsibility to make sure their car is in working order for the maneuvers they are about to attempt.
Furthermore, it is the passengers responsibility to tell the driver to stop when they are driving in a manner that may endanger their life. If the driver isn't being responsible, it is the duty of the passenger to raise their voice and concern or to walk or take an alternative method to get home.
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