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    This type of shit makes me sick. Same with the two cops that got off scot-free after basically raping an intoxicated female in her home. It does not matter what the females in these situations may or may not have done. YOU ARE AN ON DUTY POLICE OFFICER! Keep it in your fucking pants.

    That is all.

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    arrrrrrgh! this is disgusting! this is how society sees sex workers- as second class and worthless. the only way to stop this is to speak up and fight back. we need to demonstrate and take action for our rights too. we deserve dignity and respect like everyone else

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    This is just disgusting -society is just disgusting. Leaves a fucked up taste your mouth. Never been much of a fan of cops anyways

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    This is why the world is getting crazier... these people are suppose to be protecting us??? they need to be shot!

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    I was soooo going to post this same story! I was ENRAGED when I read this, and in total disbelief. First of all, why was the jury filled with ELEVEN men??? And the ONE woman who also thought the cop not guilty??? This makes me really want to actively advocate for our rights! We can't count on our justice system to do it, so we need to get things done ourselves! I, too, feel for that woman - to just be put up for slaughter like that in front of people, made to feel ashamed about a part of your identity is terrifying. And that defense attorney, wheeeew Jesus.

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    How terrible. I really can't believe this happened.

    Poor woman. He got away with assault.



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    The cop is an obvious sleazeball.

    However, the girl talked on the phone with him afterwards for 19 minutes. I don't know anybody that talks with their rapist afterwards for 19 minutes voluntarily.

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    wow what a awful story!, why did the jury have so many men i thought it had to be equal?
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    Ugh..nasty, unbelieveable!


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    see you give some people a gun and a badge to uphold the law and make sure the public is save from the low liefs that are out there doing the crimes .... this goes to a power trip scumbags head to believe he is there to enforce the law to his twisted liking ... thus it makes him the one we fear the most a lowlife loser criminal with a gun and a badge....


    i believe in karma ... if you go through life without fucking over anyone that dose not desperately deserve to be fucked over good things happen for you ..... this asshole with a badge is burning karma points ... his time is coming ....

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    The jury was obviously prejudiced against sex workers and strippers. This is so wrong. I hope they appeal the case.
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    she got what she wanted?!!! WHAT THE FUCK?!!!!!

    Fucked up on all levels, I CANNOT believe this shit....

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    Quote Originally Posted by papillonluvr View Post
    The jury was obviously prejudiced against sex workers and strippers. This is so wrong. I hope they appeal the case.
    I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think you can appeal when someone is found not guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LexyNYC View Post
    The cop is an obvious sleazeball.

    However, the girl talked on the phone with him afterwards for 19 minutes. I don't know anybody that talks with their rapist afterwards for 19 minutes voluntarily.
    A woman can be attacked by someone and talk to them afterwards. It doesn't make the assault disappear like magic.
    Is this the behavior you're defending?
    (snip)Four months earlier, Park had stopped Lucy under similar circumstances. That time, he'd ignored a plastic drug baggie he'd found in her car and her suspended license. But the stop wasn't a waste of time. After friendly chit-chat, the officer had scored Lucy's phone number. Telephone records show that Park called the stripper the next morning. She told him she was too busy to meet.
    On the witness stand, Park explained that he'd called Lucy out of concern for a citizen's safety. He also shrugged his shoulders when Kamiabipour slowly listed the first names of nine Captain Cream female employees—Annette, Denise, Rashele, Marlia, Brandi, Andrea, Deborah, Laura and Shannon—whose license plates he'd run through the DMV computer in the weeks prior to his sexual encounter with Lucy. (Another coincidence, according to Stokke.) Jurors also learned that Irvine Police Sgt. Michael Hallinan had previously warned Park as they left work to stay away from the strippers.(snip)

    This guy didn't call her and shot the breeze. He impersonated someone else to coerce her into staying silent!
    (snip)Telephone records prove that Park made a 19-minute call to Lucy shortly after their encounter. The officer—who told the woman he was "Joe Stephens," an Orange County Sheriff's Department deputy who had died months earlier—said it was a friendly call to make sure she'd arrived home safely. The stripper said he told her to keep her mouth shut.(snip)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist View Post
    This guy didn't call her and shot the breeze. He impersonated someone else to coerce her into staying silent!
    (snip)Telephone records prove that Park made a 19-minute call to Lucy shortly after their encounter. The officer—who told the woman he was "Joe Stephens," an Orange County Sheriff's Department deputy who had died months earlier—said it was a friendly call to make sure she'd arrived home safely. The stripper said he told her to keep her mouth shut.(snip)
    I caught that too...I dont understand it...how someone could glaze over the details as if to try and find a way to make it her fault. Probably what the jury did too that got him off. It matters *a lot* that he impersonated a dead cop when calling her and then tell her to keep her mouth shut about what happened.

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    Very sick but is anyone surprised? I've read other stories where people attacked strippers and got off. I remember a story here where a stripper was mugged I think it was, she pressed charges and the cops refused to do anything. Unfortunately we live in a society where strippers are treated as scum.

    I'm not a lawyer but I believe she can sue him civilly. He's obviously a predator and will do it again. I'd like to know how it was mostly men, that sounds wrong.

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    The problem these days with any 'stripper' appearing in any courtroom is that the jury ( no matter what their makeup ) will have already absorbed the Hollywood Stripper stereotype, plus absorbed the 'lying for personal gain stripper' news coverage re the Duke Lacrosse case, the Kobe Bryant case etc. Most male jury members are going to believe that the 'stripper' would use sex for personal gain. Most female jury members are going to believe that the 'stripper' is capable of almost anything ( after all how else can they explain to themselves why their husbands are at a strip club instead of home with them ! ).

    From there, it is an easy 'sale' for an attorney to speculate that the 'stripper' actually offered sexual favors in exchange for something ... in this case getting a 'pass' from a police officer on her suspended driver's license.

    I'm not saying that this is 'right' or 'fair' ... but it is the way the real world works. These days 'strippers' are guilty until proven innocent.

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    Her defense attorney was a moron. He/She didn't pick the jury well to begin with and obviously didn't counter the prosecutions case at all.

    It isn't just strippers. It is any woman who owns their sexuality. A year ago a rapist in Italy was found not guilty because the woman's jeans were too tight. The case was made that because her jeans were so tight she would of had to take them off which meant she gave her consent. Now this defense is being used around the world. Just google tight jean rapist.

    And there there is this ...... http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...ork&id=8146182

    Even with a taped confession they were found not guilty but dismissed from the force. This woman was drunk in her own home and the cops were called to check on her. They raped her instead.
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    From article:

    The local police department though was wise enough to realize that justice may not have been fully served: they paid the stripper $400,000 in compensation rather that have to face a civil case over the incident.
    It seems to me like the stripper had a crappy lawyer and the officer had a really good one. Terrible job picking the jury.

    It sounds like the rest of the police department disapproved -- they basically testified against him and provided her with compensation.

    Still, I hate the fact that if she hadn't been a stripper, the verdict would have been different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilykane View Post
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    It seems to me like the stripper had a crappy lawyer and the officer had a really good one. Terrible job picking the jury.

    It sounds like the rest of the police department disapproved -- they basically testified against him and provided her with compensation.

    Still, I hate the fact that if she hadn't been a stripper, the verdict would have been different.
    If she wasnt a stripper but dressed "slutty", or "too" attractive, or poor, or ethnic the verdict would of been the same.

    My only point is all women should be pissed off at these kinds of things. All women should stand together. It's the only way anything will change. Because if it can happen to one of us, no matter the profession, dress, race, or economic status, it can happen to any of us.
    The problem is other women judge other women the same way because they feel threatened or the it wouldn't happen to me because i don't live in the neighborhood, or dress like that, or whatever its her own fault mentality.I think it is fucked up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist View Post
    A woman can be attacked by someone and talk to them afterwards. It doesn't make the assault disappear like magic.
    Is this the behavior you're defending?
    (snip)Four months earlier, Park had stopped Lucy under similar circumstances. That time, he'd ignored a plastic drug baggie he'd found in her car and her suspended license. But the stop wasn't a waste of time. After friendly chit-chat, the officer had scored Lucy's phone number. Telephone records show that Park called the stripper the next morning. She told him she was too busy to meet.
    On the witness stand, Park explained that he'd called Lucy out of concern for a citizen's safety. He also shrugged his shoulders when Kamiabipour slowly listed the first names of nine Captain Cream female employees—Annette, Denise, Rashele, Marlia, Brandi, Andrea, Deborah, Laura and Shannon—whose license plates he'd run through the DMV computer in the weeks prior to his sexual encounter with Lucy. (Another coincidence, according to Stokke.) Jurors also learned that Irvine Police Sgt. Michael Hallinan had previously warned Park as they left work to stay away from the strippers.(snip)

    This guy didn't call her and shot the breeze. He impersonated someone else to coerce her into staying silent!
    (snip)Telephone records prove that Park made a 19-minute call to Lucy shortly after their encounter. The officer—who told the woman he was "Joe Stephens," an Orange County Sheriff's Department deputy who had died months earlier—said it was a friendly call to make sure she'd arrived home safely. The stripper said he told her to keep her mouth shut.(snip)
    Just because I'm the only one that's not rallying behind this girl doesn't mean I'm pro cop either. I think he is definitely unfit to be in any position of authority and I wouldn't leave him around kids either.

    My sympathy for the girl went out the window when I read what she did afterwards. Had I just been raped, the LAST thing I would do when I'm in the comfort and safety of my own home is sit on the phone and listen to some asshole, whether it's the man that raped me or a man that is a superior to the rapist, threaten me for 19 minutes. 19 minutes is a longgg time to voluntarily listen to somebody tell you to keep your mouth shut. And how long does it take to tell somebody to keep quiet? Certainly not 19 minutes.

    And the girl was driving without a license, had an incident that day involving cocaine and getting fired, and had voluntarily given that same cop her number a few months earlier so I could see how a reasonable jury could be led to believe that she gave the guy a hand job to get out of jail time/towing fees for driving illegally. And I'm not saying that because she's a stripper. I would feel the same way about any one with that behavior whether they're a stripper or a Fortune 500 company CEO.

    Flame away.

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    I understand your point. I don't think I would have given a cop a handjob under any circumstance. Take me to jail, mothafucka, before I touch your dirty nasty dick against my will. I would rip his dick off before I willingly did that and I would face the consequences. But, that's me. She obviously had a lot of other issues that were preexisting. However, this man was clearly a deviant molester/rapist who used his authority to threaten, stalk, and intimidate women sexually. He is a menace and deserved to be punished for what he did to her and I'm sure other women that just never came out of the woodwork. He is a disgusting excuse for a human being. I don't care if he forced sex upon a prostitute, just because she has sex for money doesn't mean it's not rape. Her character seemed fairly weak, but she was still not deserving of abuse. The lawyer took advantage of her vulnerability and past bad decisions and made HER the deviant. It's sad that a jury would agree and go along with this, but just proof that chauvinism is alive and thriving.
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    This makes me so sad. People are so disgusting to one another. So basically everyone knows he did it, they gave her "no hard feelings" money, and this ass is free to continue to roam the streets and prey on people using his job and penis as a weapon. Wow!
    Thank Goodness I smartened up! The old me is dead and gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilykane View Post
    It seems to me like the stripper had a crappy lawyer and the officer had a really good one. Terrible job picking the jury.
    She did not have a lawyer at the trial. It was a criminal trial, the state was one party, represented by the District Attorney or an Assistant District Attorney. The other party was the slime-ball cop who was represented by his own lawyer. The ADA probably was incompetent, but what else is new.

    It sounds like the rest of the police department disapproved -- they basically testified against him and provided her with compensation.

    Still, I hate the fact that if she hadn't been a stripper, the verdict would have been different.
    The PD, to its credit did the right thing. In NC, the police would have circled the wagons to protect the officer until the story leaked out. (If ever.) Then they would have tried to hush it up and most likely given the officer a promotion. But, that's the NC way.

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