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    Duh Diet Soda May Be Making You Fat

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    "Researchers at the Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio tracked 474 people, all 65 to 74 years old, for nearly a decade, measuring the subjects' height, weight, waist circumference, and diet soft drink intake every 3.6 years. The waists of those who drank diet soft drinks grew 70 percent more than those who avoided the artificially sweetened stuff; people who drank two or more servings a day had waist-circumference increases that were five times larger than non-diet-soda consumers."

    "The findings are in line with those of a 2005 study, also conducted by researchers at the Texas Health Science Center, in which the chance of becoming overweight or obese increased with every diet soda consumed. On average, for each diet soft drink our participants drank per day, they were 65 percent more likely to become overweight during the next seven to eight years, and 41 percent more likely to become obese,” said Sharon Fowler, who was a faculty associate in the division of clinical epidemiology in the Health Science Center’s department of medicine at the time."

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    I hardly ever drink soda, maybe twice a year, but when I do, I don't reach for a diet one. In my opinion, if you need to be watching your weight and/or are just overall health conscious, then you should be reaching for water instead... 0 calories and it hydrates you... doesn't get much more "diet" than that!

    Personally I love green tea so I drink about half a glass everyday, here's the link to the nutrition label for it:

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    I've never liked diet soda. When I did drink soda, it was all regular. Mostly coke and Mnt. Dew.

    Since cutting soda out of diet for the past year, (maybe having a sip once in awhile), I've noticed so much weight loss.

    All I drink is water too and sometimes will put one of those raspberry tea to go in it. Zero calories still and get a little flavor.

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    All sodas are poison, and diet sodas are not excluded. There is strong evidence (disputed by artificial sweetener manufacturers of course) that artificial sweeteners cause your pancreas to start excreting insulin due to a 'neural/humoral' connection. Insulin inhibits fat loss, and when you take elevated insulin without combining it with blood sugars (which is what happens when you drink diet sodas), you get an increase in appetite and a craving for carbs, all leading to gains in body fat.

    There is a lot of evidence contrary to this of course, most likely sponsored by the people who make artificial sweeteners, but remember that for decades certain companies vehemently denied that cigarettes were bad for you as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelKing View Post
    All sodas are poison, and diet sodas are not excluded. There is strong evidence (disputed by artificial sweetener manufacturers of course) that artificial sweeteners cause your pancreas to start excreting insulin due to a 'neural/humoral' connection. Insulin inhibits fat loss, and when you take elevated insulin without combining it with blood sugars (which is what happens when you drink diet sodas), you get an increase in appetite and a craving for carbs, all leading to gains in body fat.

    There is a lot of evidence contrary to this of course, most likely sponsored by the people who make artificial sweeteners, but remember that for decades certain companies vehemently denied that cigarettes were bad for you as well.
    Yeah, someone told me this once. I don't really tell people about it because I never bothered to do my own research into the subject. I keep meaning to look into it more. But if I'm going to drink a soda, I just do regular. I don't feel like I drink it enough to justify losing the taste for a couple hundred calories Although, I have a couple friends who actually like the taste of artificial sweetener more. Blech

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    Damn....all this time I have been drinking diet and thought that it was just that my clothes were shrinking !! Guess it might be time to rethink things.

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    I have a soda addiction. I used to drink a 12 pack of full sugar soda a day. I switched to diet soda about six years ago. Since then I've lost 30+ pounds and about four inches on my waist. I'm also down to only two or three sodas a day but they are always diet.

    Diet soda doesn't make you fat. It can make you bloat, sure but it isn't going to pack pounds on. This is just as stupid as saying that eating cereal for breakfast makes you thinner because people who eat cereal tend to be thinner. You can't ignore everything else the person eats and focus on one thing. That's shitty science.

    I'm not trying to be bitchy to the OP but I really hate these diet soda studies. Every time I drink a diet soda in front of a woman heavier than I am, they bring it up and tell me I'm going to get fat. It's the same when I put a packet of splenda in my coffee. Usually, they're eating pancakes drenched in syurp or some fried food when they do it too. It's become one of my biggest pet peeves. If the artificial sugar hasn't turned me into an obese land whale in six years, I think I'm safe.

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    I just switched to diet coke from regular....man, can't win for losing.

    I'd like to hear more about studies linking diet coke to insulin production from the pancreas. If you're telling me I can get diabetes w/out even eating much sugar, then that sucks.

    When I first read the OP's link, I was assuming that weight gain associated w/ diet coke was because people who drink a lot of it..also EAT a lot. The end of the article kind of indicates that as well....

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    Damned stuff is LOADED with sodium. Read the label.

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    of all the things people in the united states consume, calorie free drinks are what they're blaming to their fatness? how about personal responsibility for the three pizzas you ate while catching up on true blood season three?

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    I heard that.
    I remember a couple of years ago doing a terrible crash diet where I only consumed salad and diet coke. I got suuuper skinny and suuuper grumpy!
    I don't drink it now. I started buying organic or sugar free cordial to up my water intake, then I stopped that too and now I keep a tub of lemon, lime and orange slices to put in my water, like in a bar.
    When I go out (to support my local bars) I buy fruit juice, but I never keep that at home.

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    i am so glad i didnt grow up drinking soda. Seriously. why do people raise their kids on this shit? if you wont let your child smoke cigarettes, then you shouldnt let them drink this poison.

    it amazes me how many people 'need' their coke or pepsi. i cant even drink a whole glass of it... it tastes like sugar mixed with battery acid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by camille27 View Post
    of all the things people in the united states consume, calorie free drinks are what they're blaming to their fatness? how about personal responsibility for the three pizzas you ate while catching up on true blood season three?
    Instantly reminded me of this:

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    Im glad I dont drink that crap anymore... diet or regular, its all the same. At most whenever I start drinking a coke I notice I want more of it, I stay away from sodas in general. You cant loose weight with a DIET soda more so with a regular either, stick with water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisca View Post
    You cant loose weight with a DIET soda more so with a regular either, stick with water.
    That doesn't even make sense. You're comparing a drink with one or two calories to a drink with over 100 calories and saying they have the same impact on your diet. That's not logical.

    It's sort of like saying. You can't lose weight with a rice cake more so with a double cheeseburger, so stick with carrots. Sure, that's nice and all and carrots are better for you but that doesn't mean a rice cake and a double cheeseburger have the same effect on your weight.

    No one has ever gotten fat by switching from regular soda to diet soda. If they claim they have, they're simply lying about the rest of their diet. Also, no fat person has ever reached a healthy weight by replacing diet soda with regular. If diet soda really made people fat, the two above scenarios would happen but they don't so it's bullshit.

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    I used to dink a LOT of soda, but now I've really cut it down and drink a lot more water (with lemon) instead. I feel a lot better and a lot less bloated.

    But I still enjoy a diet Coke or Ginger-ale every once in a while. I no longer drink a 2-liter-a-day, but I feel if I didn't have a soda a few times a month I would be restricting myself way too much.



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    When I first read that a bottle of soda contains an eighth of a POUND of sugar, it kinda killed sodas for me. The thought just really grosses me out. I now drink sodas very, very rarely, like maybe once every three months or so. And then it's like an IBC root beer or a gourmet root beer or cream soda, nothing like a fountain drink. All sodas are pretty bad for you, and I personally find diet sodas to be almost undrinkable. Seriously, drink water. It's better for you, it's cheaper, and you'll benefit both internally and externally (better hair, skin, etc.).

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    artificial sweeteners are disgusting and they make me sad... while i dunno about the whole making people fat thing i do know that they are horrible for your health. soda in general disgusts me , mostly because i used to be an avid soda drinker and weighed a ton. i was raised on soda and when you go to the mall and seeing moms filling up their kids sippie cups with soda its so horrid, my little sisters were fed soda in bottles when they were toddlers and as a result their teeth rotted out of their head. people will make their own decisions but splenda actually has trace amounts of arsenic in it. its called stevia. its low calorie almost no calorie it tastes good, works in coffee tea baking everything. and its all natural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelGirl View Post
    I have a soda addiction. I used to drink a 12 pack of full sugar soda a day. I switched to diet soda about six years ago. Since then I've lost 30+ pounds and about four inches on my waist. I'm also down to only two or three sodas a day but they are always diet.

    Diet soda doesn't make you fat. It can make you bloat, sure but it isn't going to pack pounds on. This is just as stupid as saying that eating cereal for breakfast makes you thinner because people who eat cereal tend to be thinner. You can't ignore everything else the person eats and focus on one thing. That's shitty science.

    I'm not trying to be bitchy to the OP but I really hate these diet soda studies. Every time I drink a diet soda in front of a woman heavier than I am, they bring it up and tell me I'm going to get fat. It's the same when I put a packet of splenda in my coffee. Usually, they're eating pancakes drenched in syurp or some fried food when they do it too. It's become one of my biggest pet peeves. If the artificial sugar hasn't turned me into an obese land whale in six years, I think I'm safe.
    I'm sorry but I beg to differ... this study (and I'm sure there are other ones out there) shows that diet soda MAY be making you fat. That is quite a different statement than the one you're making that diet soda doesn't make you fat.

    In fact, here's another excerpt from a different source about the other study they mention in the first article:

    The study, which involved nearly 500 men and women, found that even ingesting small quantities of diet soda had these effects. The results showed that the waistlines of those who consumed diet drinks expanded 70 percent faster than those who eschewed them in favor of other beverages, including regular sodas. Even more alarming, frequent users -- defined as those who drink two or more cans a day -- saw a 500 percent greater increase in girth, Hazuda told an American Diabetes Association conference audience. Consumption of diet sodas also increased blood sugar levels over time. The results remained the same even when other factors such as exercise, social class, education and smoking were factored in.

    The researchers speculate that there are several factors involved in the weight gain. They think the artificial sweeteners in diet drinks distort appetite, making people crave extra-sweet foods, while the lack of real sugar keeps consumers from feeling full. The artificial sweeteners may also damage brain cells involved in feelings of satiety.

    A second study by some of the same researchers carried out on mice linked the artificial sweetener aspartame to the kind of pancreas damage that occurs early in diabetes.

    Hazuda said her study was the fourth large-scale piece of research to link diet drinks with ill consequences. She recommends that people stop consuming diet sodas completely, suggesting water or lemonade instead. Even drinking regular full-sugar soda is better, she said.

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    I obviously have no personal stake in either of these studies, I was just simply sharing it because I found it very interesting. I'm not trying to bash anyone who drinks diet soda, I just think everyone should be more informed about this subject. I hardly ever drink any soda even though my parents always drank coffee or soda, my beverage of choice has always been water and probably always will be now that I am more health conscious than I was before.

    Also as far as science only focusing on one thing that a person eats (diet soda), that's because it's the independent variable. In order for a scientific experiment to have some validity, only one thing can be changed and only that thing alone.

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    I know people that would drink a gallon of regular sodas a day, and when they switched to diet, they dropped major weight fast!

    On the other hand though, I've read that aspartame/saccharin/sucralose, basically any artificial sweetener is about 400 times sweeter than actual sugar. If you think about it, this could trigger a much stronger insulin response than regular sugar, leading to fat storage, cortisol increase, a whole cascading affect of changing hormone levels. My sister told me that Splenda is almost the same molecular structure as chlorine, it's basically a chlorine molecule with one small part taken away, that's how it's made. That freak me out enough to stick with stevia sweetened foods and beverages!

    I learned a while back, and I still believe that the best way is to cut out everything sweet (besides fruit - in moderation). Sugar and sweeteners are very addictive! It's like quitting smoking... when I stopped eating sweet foods I stopped craving them. Now I would get sick to my stomach drinking a soda or smoking a cigarette!
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    Why am I arguing about something so stupid on a stripper website.

    Diet soda absolutely makes your waist bigger. Science obviously proves it. Enjoy that double cheeseburger with your REAL soda and you'll be super skinny. Science proves it, the interwebz say so. I always though correlation does not imply causation but obviously that's just gross stupidity and correlation does prove causation cuz of independent variables and watnot. I cun feelz mahself gutting smater ahlrady.

    We should make a sticky in this section about how drinking regular soda makes you skinny and diet soda makes you fat. It could be really helpful to our fellow strippers who struggle with their weight.

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    I think the thread should probably be about how diet soda can create an endocrinological environment conducive to fat accumulation, while regular soda just makes you really fat. No one is debating the effects of double cheeseburgers on fat gain here.

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    ^^...why are we arguing about which soda is better for you, regular or diet? They're BOTH bad for you. In different ways, maybe, but whether you drink regular or diet, your body isn't thanking you. I don't understand why so many people are adverse to drinking water. It's cheap, it's natural, and if you get a good filter it tastes amazing. You'll hydrate better (because sodas, both regular and diet, actually DEHYDRATE you), which means you'll look better and feel better. And water, if you drink as much as you're supposed to, will let you lose weight much quicker than any soda ever could.

    But don't get me started on how bad artificial sweeteners are for you...not to mention they taste like shit and chemicals.

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    ^^^
    The point I was not very clearly alluding to!

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    fuck i really want to eat pizza and watch true blood now. fuck this is terrible.

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    ^I was just reading through this thread and thinking about how much I want a double cheeseburger and a coke now.



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