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    If they "catch you" then play dumb and act like it was an honest mistake. They still owe you for the dances that you did and so you won't walk off empty handed. Ideally, they'll be so smitten that they'll just hand you as much as they have. After all, if you were their girlfriend then they wouldn't be yelling over an extra $40-60 while you guys were out shopping, would they? Demand to be treated like a princess and take every extra nickel you can from these guys.

    Don't worry about them getting angry either, they can take it up with management if they want to be angry, and don't be afraid to tell them that. Management won't fire you or bitch at you over $40-60 overcharge. That's chump change in a strip club, think about it. They'll probably brush the guy off and laugh about it later. Even an extra $20-30 from each guy you dance for from overcharging makes a HUGE difference. I made an extra $160 July 3rd (Sunday) just from tips and overcharging alone...walked out with $450 after house fee and tip out! Even if you only do 7 lap dances the entire night, that's an extra $140 in your pocket if you overcharge those guys.

    Think about it. They have more money left over, they go spend it on another girl. You've seen it a thousand times before. Fuck that other girl, that's your money, and you should have taken it all if you got to him first. Get as much as you possibly can, then get out of there.

    If you're worried about guys not getting enough dances in a row to make them "lose count" then do what I do most of the time... I tell them upfront:

    "It's $20 for the good girl dance and $30 for the bad girl dance". I'll say it's $40 or more for once dance if I think they have the money. Bam, extra $10 in my pocket.
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    You're right. Gonna start doing that.
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    I think my area is anti tipping. A few years ago I would work the "do I deserve a tip" and stopped doing it once I moved clubs and guys thought it was ridiculous to ask. Then another club forbade asking for tips on top of dances or VIP and we technically were supposed to give it back. But we were supposed to make sure hostesses got 20%, wtf. Where I am now I get the impression a lot of girls tack on extra songs, I even had a work friend tell me to go to her reg and charge him more. If a guy is polite to dance for I just charge them the 20/song. I will asshole tax somebody if I have to, but will usually stop the dance immediately in a huff and they pay me for it anyways. I don't think an hr in champagne at my club is enough profit considering I could make that in dances in less time so I let them know up front I charge a $100 tip unless they are a club reg then they are used to paying the min. But I also don't have crazy tip outs or money taken outa the dance and it's 1 way contact. If I had to tolerate hands all over me I would try to get as much out of them as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Money_Worshipper View Post
    when i mean by overcharging is when a guy says, "how much do i owe you?" "how many songs was that?" i say more than i'm supposed to. i don't change the price of a lap dance. i just quote more songs.
    "How much do I owe you" is very different than number of songs.
    If you ask how many songs, I'll say 10 songs if we did 10 songs...
    but even if it's only $40 per dance... when asked "How much do I owe you" the answer is more like $600-800.

    If asked "How many songs did we do?" I'll say "10... so it's $400 for the dances and $400 for me. "
    Some guys pay it, thinking that's really what they owe... some play along and tip you stupid amounts you ask for and give you the $100... some guys laugh it off and tip you $20... but very very rarely do they tip less than that *I think* because they're too embarassed fo tip you $5 when you asked for $100. lol Occasionally you get "Oh that was all my money/I only had enough for the dance." Whatever. Who cares? Any extra money you make for doing nothing is extra money.
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    Because it creates unrest with the custie when every girl is quoting him a different price. Custies are more likely to spend and tip if they don't feel like some girl is trying to rip him off.
    I would never advocate ripping off a customer.

    I used to work for a company that encouraged the dancers to rip guys off, and I walked.

    Up selling is not even in the same category as stealing from people.




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    Oh, in regard to my last post, always GET YOUR MONEY UPFRONT. Especially when you're overcharging. You don't want a guy to grab your ass during a lap dance and then give you the normal rate (or nothing at all) because you'll be fucked.

    Management and bouncers will have a hard time enforcing your surcharge to the dance because it's not the club's standard.

    I also get the money upfront because sometimes the "bad girl dance" is interpreted as an invitation to try and finger fuck me. When that happens, the dance ends, and I still have my money!
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    Hmm. Y'all are making me feel bad, like I've been doing something wrong all along. I just think the clientele at my current club knows that most girls do a certain type of dance and there's no reason to tip. If you charge more, you probably will get dumped off for the next one. Meh. I guess that just means I need to work at another club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripper Hacks View Post
    Why would a stripper NOT set their own prices? Clubs can't enforce it. You work for yourself and rent space. We pay them remember?

    I never "overcharge". I up sell.
    Yes, clubs can enforce it. At my club when the guy wants a dance, he goes to the counter in the lap room and asks for 10/20/30/60 mins with a girl, which are set rates. The club then gives me my cut before the dance starts.

    So you can't do a dance without going through the club first, which keeps everything fair and stops girls from undercutting each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elusive21 View Post
    It's not overcharging if you tell them about it before you start dancing. at my club the dances are $25 but most girls charge anywhere from $30 to $50.

    What I do is I say:
    "so what kind of a dance would you like me to do? we can do a regular $25 dance or a naughtier, more intimate dance for $40, which is what most guys prefer?" this way THEY get to decide what they want and I don't get in trouble for overcharging.
    can't that line get you in trouble should vice be there? the "naughtier, more intimate dance" might be mistaken for maybe a good finger fucking or cock sucking.

    how long have you been using this line? I love it...but I would be skiddish to use it
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    At my club when the guy wants a dance, he goes to the counter in the lap room and asks for 10/20/30/60 mins with a girl, which are set rates. The club then gives me my cut before the dance starts.
    True I would rather see girls overcharging than under cutting. What is the going rate for 10 minutes with a dancer and how much does the club get?

    I would go nuts if I left it all up to the club to handle my money. Especially if they took a cut on top of house. If there is no house it might not be so bad.

    The way I see it the girls that undercut sometimes help everyone out in a way. They tie up all the cheap customers.

    In my experience most customers do not get many dances from the discounters. It's just not their thing.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripper Hacks View Post
    I would never advocate ripping off a customer.

    I used to work for a company that encouraged the dancers to rip guys off, and I walked.

    Up selling is not even in the same category as stealing from people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Italian_Bombshell849 View Post
    can't that line get you in trouble should vice be there?
    Don't know where the person who posted that was from... but I've worked in areas where we've been specifically told NOT to use lines like that for this reason.
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    ^^^ Agreed, I've been in multiple states & seen multiple stories where using such lines got the entertainer as ticket. Cops often would rather ticket those grey areas & let the entertainer try to prove she's innocent in court.
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    ^Well is there a better way to say it? As earlier in the thread, Athena mentioned offering a higher priced dance as opposed to a "lamer" lower priced-one to customers...

    Here in AZ, it's $10 a dance :/

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    I dont agree with the OP's method but if it works for her...

    I worked at a club with very low priced private dances. I would double the price by telling them that its X for the club (the actual room price) and X for me (my fee for dancing for them)- no tipping required. The customers never complained and they got a great dance because I was getting paid what I wanted.

    The manager heard me once and yelled at me for doing it, but i didnt care. I told him its my labor and I can sell it for any amount as long they got their cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DesuvsDeath View Post
    Don't know where the person who posted that was from... but I've worked in areas where we've been specifically told NOT to use lines like that for this reason.
    what line would you rather recommend using? im curious, because I am always looking for different lines to try on customers to encourage them to give me more money than just $25 for a lapdance.

    Do you overcharge at all?

    I also do the whole "the more you tip the better I will strip" line before a dance and tell them a great dance requires a great tip BEFORE I start dancing, that way they choose how much they want to give me.

    It really just depends on the customer. I dont use the same line for everybody, and some people I dont charge extra at all depending on the vibe they give off. Also depends on my mood, whether it's someone Ive danced for before, etc.





    Quote Originally Posted by Athenathefabulous View Post
    as long as you tell them the price up front, its not "overcharging" IMO. its the price you are willing to entertain for and the price they are willing to pay for entertainment.

    at my current club the set up doesnt work with overcharging... i demand tips. although at clubs were dances were 10$, fuck that.. i generally charged 20 or if a customer only wanted to pay 10 i would make sure that their dance was what i deemed a 10$ dance to be (i.e. lame enough to make them regret not spending more).

    So how did you word it, so you wouldnt get in trouble but still make $20 instead of $10 for a dance?

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    I don't know why but I've never really asked for a tip, just was happy when it happened. But then I drove home a girl who has become a good hustler, and when I told her that she said "are you serious? You're there to WORK and to MAKE MONEY. Why wouldn't you ask for a tip? Think of how much extra money you could have, etc etc" and some other things like that, and she made me feel kind of dumb. And she's right. I don't know WHY I felt weird asking for a tip. Imagine, if I had gotten tipped $X after all the dances I've done... O_O

    So the next day, after doing a few dances, a guy asked "how much is it?" And I said "X and however much you want to tip." and he did. He even did more dances + tips after that, and came in the next week saying he stopped by to see me specifically.

    So reading all these posts are giving me ideas...thanks girls

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    Some guys will just brush you off. You can phrase the whole tip question/suggestion any way you want, but cheap ones will say stuff like "of course!" and then hand you no tip or $1. It's pathetic how cheap guys are, I love to stare at them and giggle at how pitiful they must be. I'd hate to date anyone like that, poor bastards.

    I had a drunk guy get mad one tip that I asked for a tip, he said I "should've acted like I gave a fuck". Right, dumbass! I don't care about you. He then proceeded to tip me $10 each time I went on stage the rest of the night because he left his sunglasses in the lap dance area and I politely returned them to make him look like the asshole.
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    LMAO @ you should've acted like you gave a fuck. oh god that's funny.

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    They are all funny. Men (especially customers) are pathetic.

    I had a fat ol' guy--I mean a fucking buffalo--offer me his business card so I could pose nude for him last night LOL.

    Right you freak. You tipped me $3 in a half hour VIP, I'm gonna pose nude for you. Moreover, you are the size of a small whale... I mean really, why do you think I would even look at you in real life? I would call the cops if I saw you smiling at me in public because you are so ugly and big.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elusive21 View Post
    what line would you rather recommend using? im curious, because I am always looking for different lines to try on customers to encourage them to give me more money than just $25 for a lapdance.

    Do you overcharge at all?
    If you're going to use a line... I'd just recommend you use a line that can't be misunderstood as "I am offering extras". Words like "naughtier" or phrases like "I'll give a better dance" or "we'll have more fun" all sound like you're blatantly offering extras, imo.
    Personally. I don't use lines. I tell them how much the dance was... and how much it cost to have ME doing it... which is my tip.
    Asking for a tip before dances sets expectations you may not be able to/may be unwilling to live up to... and tends to lead to more drama and customers being PISSED about getting ripped off, imo.

    I mean... if it works for you, it works for you.
    I just don't like to mislead men and have to deal with their bullshit when they're mad that they payed me $50 extra because they thought I meant they could pull their dick out.
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    I used to be very honest you know. Never cheat a custy. But as custys change I have had to. I now do make a regular habit of overcharging custys & tipping the bouncer to cut the rooms short. I wish it didnt have to be that way but with high tip outs & tighter custys I have to do what I need to.

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    ^^I agree. I used to play nice, never overcharged or 'forgot' to give change, never cut VIP or lap dances short, always told them if they dropped money yada yada -- now, I don't give a fuck. These dudes are so cheap it's pathetic, I'm going to do what I have to do. AMEN!
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    If it's anything under a 1/2 hour in VIP ( 260 for me or 500 for me for the hour) I ask for a tip. I always thought that 1/2 and CR/ Hours, the tip is included in the price. I usually will charge 25 for a dance and yes sometimes the customers do complain ( I thought it was 20!!) but those are usualy the cheap guys/gals who won't tip or get one dance and are nasty anyways. I usualy say it's just X amount unless i deserve a tip, 80% of the time they say of course you do and tip me, last night I had a guy for a a 3/100 and an extra two songs ( it was the end of the night the bouncer let me do it as I was the ONLY girl in VIP) so when I finished I told him that it was just 150 unless I deserved a tip and he tipped me a 50 so you never know, fortune favors the bold and you just might get a well spending regular in the process. Oh and if a guy is a total asshole I have no problem charging extra!

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    I used to feel so shy about asking for tips, like I was greedy. But shit, if you don't ask, half the time customers won't think to give you a tip. Sure you have those once-in-awhile guys who want to give you a couple hundred extra cuz you're so super special, but for the rest if it's not requested, it's not gonna be forthcoming. Now I think to myself, if I get every guy to tip something, that will cover my stage fee and part of my tip outs to bouncers. Who cares anyway, 1/2 these guys won't remember much at the end of the night (at least at my club where they can drink), so let's get that money!


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