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    ok... so here goes. almost all of the guys that i sit with that spend a lot of money on drinks and things all expect to get the goods at the end of the night. i'm pretty good about not saying yes but not saying no to get them to keep spending money. i try to start out slow with cheaper drinks say 20$ then i slowly work my way up the price ranges, after i've been sitting with him awhile an i know he's had a few drinks. by this time he thinks i'm getting all relaxed and really into him. now... i'm able to get them to come back a second time but i'm tryna find away to really get into his pockets say 3 to 5 times. this on person that comes to mind, i'm tryna play the game of i really like him and that i'm tryna take things slow because i've been hurt crap. last night i went to hang wit him at this often hours spot that everyones goes to drink at after work. he was humping an shit on me then after i made him buy me food i was sitn around and seen him hitting on some other girl. (i honestly was happy i needed a break ewww) i used that as a oppertunity to be like no i trusted you i went to go hang with you cuz i sorta like you an you left me sitting there while you were mac'n on broads). i actually went to meet up with other customers but this is the game i'm playing. now he's calling me like crazy and i'm like hell i ain't doing nothing with him eww, but i'ma tryna find away to get him back into the club an buy more drinks. he's tryna play well if you really like me then i shouldn't always have to come see you at work shit.

    (mind games)is this what we must do in the game of stripping like is the normal?

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    I can't understand what you wrote.
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    I did not understand anythin either.by the way drinks dont pay bills. 20 $ dances does... this is how it works at my club. even it could i would not bother i rather get dances ... lots of cash i mean...who cares drinks siriously.

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    This isn't normal. Striptease doesn't involve meeting up with customers. If you are doing things with customers outside of the club, then you can't really even compare it with what should be happening in the club. It sounds like by meeting up with the person at the bar or non-strip-club that you really are going the wrong direction with leading the relationship to be good for both of you. I'd say either cut your losses now, or else apologize to him by saying you were being irresponsible & you need to keep the relationship inside your work club.
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    ok... lets try this again. this customer is a big spender so we exchanged numbers. i have a tendency to play head games with my customers only the big spenders. we don't have private dances at my club. all we have is stage tips and drink commissions. we have to sell a certain number every night to keep getting paid. (the clubs in hawaii pay us to work). our drinks start at 20$ and go up the 1000$.

    now... he is a black guy i say this because the other guys who come in expect but don't really push the issue as bad as the black men do. they seem like if the spend 100$ on you that your supposed to give it up at the end of the night which just isn't gonna happen. he shows up and starts talking about wanting to have sex after the first two drinks he bought. at this time he'd only spent 40$ but i saw that he has a shit load of 20's and 100's. me being a asshole i'm like shit i'll tell this fucker whatever it is he wants to hear to make him spend this money. plus i'm getting half of watever he spends and at the end of the night it keeps the owner happy which keeps me having garentee'd money everytime i show up to work. now i never told him yes i will go home with you after because i damn sure know that i will not. but i also never said no either. i kinda just sit next to him let him put his arm around me and just act drunk. the last two days alone i've gotten him to spend over 400 each night on drinks before anything else stage tips.

    as far as the after spot a lot of the girls we meet up with the customers after work at the after spot to make it seem as if we care about them as people. it seems to keep them coming back. they feel like we aren't just greedy strippers after there money. plus they like to be seen with us. all i did was show up at the after spot which is a bar and restaurant that's up the street from the club. i was hungry, i made him pay for my food (one less thing for me to buy haha). we were at the bar and he wanted to dance i was tryna eat, he was behind me grinding up on me. i was lucky that after he gave me the money he went to the restroom so i was off the hook. i looked around for him just because i had other customers who wanted to see me. but they literally came to late we closed early last night so i told them meet me there.

    today he's been texting me about when am i gonna see him and if i wanna be with him i would see him out side of work and i said no.. wtf is this what you do you goto strip clubs to fuck. his response is do you know how much money i've spent on you hell you make more money than i do. an i just said i gave you a chance an you blew it by getting me to see you at the spot and your hitting on other girls. so i thinking on turning it around where he's gonna start begging me and i'ma tell him if he wants to see me again he can see me at work.

    this is what i was saying mind games. the girls at work were telling me you have to what you gotta do to keep your big spenders coming in.

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    what i was trying to find out is if this is normal? i know it is a hustling style tell em what they wanna hear type of thing but i feel like its alot of work. its hard.... i just wanna drop em at the end of the night you know hang my towel up. but by talking to them phone wise i'm able to get them to come the next day to the club and they look only for me. they mention how down to earth i am i make them feel comfortable i don't look down on them ect... it helps my money but its getting old fast.

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    Ohh I see. So girls hang out w/ customers at after hours bars? That is common out here too-and I'll be quite honest it really does pay off because the customers tend to view you as a 'friend' as opposed to a 'dancer'. The only problem with this method of working is that it becomes (as you stated) rapidly sooo exhausting. This style of hustling also doesn't allow you to have a 'life' so to speak outside of the club--you are always in 'dancer/hustle/character' mode. You may lose a little financially if you decide to stop hustling this way but it is one of those decisions that would probably enhance your OTC life. You can always be honest with a customer about only seeing them in the club--the only problem with this is that when you are working with an island full of girls who *DO* work this way (and it is completely innocent--there aren't any 'extras' going on or anything like that--there is nothing wrong with working this way) it makes it difficult to keep customers interested in you because you are clearly not investing as much time and energy into them as other girls potentially would be.

    Hope that helps somewhat=)

    It sounds like the clubs in Hawaii operate similarly to the ones here^^

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    Zepeanut: thank you for understanding where I'm coming from. I just don't know how to play like what my next move is. I'm tryna play the I'm hurt now because he seemed like such a sweet guy that now if Ima see him has as to come to me because I don't wanna look stupid(which) I didn't but thas how I told him he made me feel.

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    Are you in Honolulu? If so, I think I know the after hours place you are referring to.


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    his response is do you know how much money i've spent on you hell you make more money than i do. an i just said i gave you a chance an you blew it by getting me to see you at the spot
    I'd be losing him & laughing all the way to the bank. If he thinks you make more money than he does, then why on earth is he telling you that you "blew it"? It seems to me that he blew his chances with you by not acting like a gentleman. At any rate, he's likely to come groveling back... let him - & tell him that if this ever happens again, he needs to be more respectful.

    Personally, I'd stop hanging out at the after hours place. Even if the other girls to it, the whole situation makes you seem a lot more attainable. I'd just tell customers you go every once in a blue moon to socialize with other DANCERS. Let them think they might have a chance of catching you there, but you are there so infrequently that they don't see you as the type to be hooking up with customers after hour OtC.
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    Where can I get that one minute back? "Tryna," what is that?

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    Kylea2: no... The club I'm at is pearl city. The after hour spot in Honolulu used to be saigon passions lol god the memories of that place. It's different now there, the split the club in half the different sides have different owners but same club name strange. The other after spot is chez Monique. I dont go very often but the crowd is kinda rowdy they like to fight. So the police literally hang outside the whole night.

    Shasta: tryna means trying to act. Short way of saying it.

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    i'm not going to read all that shit, but listen: all of your threads seem to have the same underlying theme of you being new and not really knowing what the fuck you're doing. and this happens! but only you can make it stop happening.

    what does this mean? this is a sales job. go to barnes and noble during the day and read sales books.
    befriend the other dancers, identify the top earners, and charm them into taking you under their wing.
    stop doing unnecessary shit for a dollar.

    i understand you're on an island and that can often change the dynamic because men like to act a fool when they go to islands for whatever reason, but it is YOUR show.

    i mean, real talk, mama, if you have the energy for mind games and alter egos and all that shit, go forth and be blessed. i'm just thinking long term. my attention span maxes at 3 minutes on a good day. if this is not the case for you, then that's okay too as long as you're doing what works for you.

    but it sounds like what you're doing is not working for you, in which case, stop fucking doing it and try something else.

    i think we could have more confidence building threads here. or like, someone could make a hot dollar real fast by throwing together a bunch of confidence affirmations and selling it on itunes.

    also, if my post is not relevant to what you wrote, which i did not read, then disregard and enjoy this sunny monday!!

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    never give out your number full stop

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    Lmaoooooo

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    never give out your number full stop :p

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    If needed, I would do this "after hours" thing the way Kylea describes, and certainly WITHOUT giving my number out.

    If I ever felt idiotically possessed by some number-giving out spirit, it would be one that did this: "Aww sweetie! I might someday give out my number to the right guy maybe...but lately I've been having trouble keeping up with my student loans (that's the truth!...lord), bills n' stuff, so I budget carefully and a phone doesn't fit in. I do all my stuff online laptop n' ipod touch...if someone wanted my number, they'd have to get me a phone, hee hee!" Or I'd say my bf pays it and monitors it like a hawk. If he's really such a big spender a $50 prepaid isn't a big deal. But really, I can't EVER see myself doing this.

    Especially, ESPECIALLY for a dude who just buys me drinks. I mean, that's great that some people make commission and all, but all the dancers I know (not just at my club) make jack from drinks and giving out numbers like candy makes men think they are entitled to ask. Number-asking motherfucking time wasting losers.

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    i give my work number out i cater to them for awhile and then i start needing help with things lol.. if they don't do it i drop them. i hate to say that but its the truth.

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