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    i mainly work streamate. i'm a bbw, though on the smaller end (i'm 5'4" and 220, and most of it is t&a). i'm a lightskinned mixed redhead, 42g rack, blue eyes, tattoos, shaved, hood piercing. sometimes i do henna tattoos on my hands, which the guys seem to like (i do henna personally for fun).

    i'm wondering if i've hit some sort of bbw profit ceiling on streamate. i'm usually on the first page (within the first 3-6 rows) on the main page, and in the first or second spot on the bbw page. i stream with the encoder and sound and offer phone in exclusive. i have toys (though not a large collection), and though i don't have a ton of different outfits, i do have nylons, high heels, etc.

    i interact a lot and talk in free, don't cave to a ton of requests but will tease guys and do requests for gold (although i very rarely get gold), i am pretty up front about the fact that i only take requests in private. i do just about everything mainstream in private (blowjob, toys, cumshow, anal with fingers, double penetration, oil show), and special requests/fetishes as well as phone and dom/sub in exclusive. most of my privates and exclusives are 3-10 minutes long, sometimes the fetish guys last a little longer. i usually give all my attention to the chat and am not playing with my phone or surfing the internet at the same time.

    i use daily pay so i only make 30% instead of 35% of profits.

    for the longest time on streamate i charged around 3.99/min and averaged about $10-$20 an hour. i would go forty minutes without anyone taking me private. etc. right now i'm at 2.89/3.49 for private/exclusive and i'm averaging $20-$30 normally, $35-$40 once in a blue moon. i've experimented with pricing as high as 3.99 or 4.49 pvt/4.99 excl.

    i feel like i've hit a wall with regards to hourly average. i'm hoping if i spend a lot more time on cam this week that will help somewhat...but...for the most part, it just feels impossible to make $40+ for me. i'm afraid to raise my prices because i don't want to go back to the land of $20/hr and spending an hour with no privates.

    i'm wondering if this has to do with my body type/niche? not to be a narcissist but i think i am one of the more attractive bbws on streamate, and i tend to have better cam quality/outfits/lighting, etc. compared to the other bbws i see online there. a lot of my customers just want a curvy girl and are not all about ssbbws, so i don't think i'm being totally pigeonholed into that niche, although it seems like so few of us actually make it to the front page.

    okay, sorry for the novel/overshare...i just wanted to describe all the conditions that i think may be affecting this. i'm really hoping someone has tips for how to increase your hourly average. i don't know what else i can possibly do, other than splitcam (which, considering how intense the encoder is, probably won't work until i get a new computer). but it seems like there are girls who make much more hourly just working streamate. i'm up for tips or suggestions.

    thanks loves!

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    Default Re: how to up hourly average?

    As a fellow BBW on SM, I was averaging $40 an hour before I switched to DP but I kinda... got annoyed at the traffic drop so haven't got back on there as much as I should. What sort of times are you on? Maybe you could swap your shifts around, see if you can hit some better paying traffic?
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    i try to work in the mornings and evenings, so around 7am-12pm and 7pm-12am. lately i've been working a little in the afternoons but i find it to be slower then.

    i'm not sure what the deal is with daily pay and traffic - i worked streamate, but not that much before switching to daily pay, and i didn't notice a huge traffic drop myself (mainly because i wasn't on much before switching...i was one of the beta testers for sm daily pay and it wasn't that long after i had started on sm). i started using the encoder regularly only after switching to daily pay...before i was on dp and using the encoder i was NEVER on the front page and i averaged like $20-$25/hr max. so for me things seem to be better now (mostly probs because of the encoder). but the number of folks claiming a traffic drop after switching to dp makes me wonder if there's some sort of studio traffic bias on sm, and if i'd be doing better right now if not for daily pay. i LOVE daily pay, don't get me wrong, love it a LOT...but...i just wonder.

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    Default Re: how to up hourly average?

    tiny. there is only 1 thing that bothers me the most and that is models not making their full potential $$ lol...
    I dont know about Daily pay and SM and why would that lower the traffic ( maybe P jenny can tell you if that could be the case) but I suspect if you have a good position on that site, its not DP's fault..
    Now YOU are the only one who knows what you do to the very detail. with that said try to change these details..
    If you;re camming sitting down on a chair or at the edge of the bed- try to cam laying down.
    If you cam with your camera positioned from front, try to place the camera from the site or behind..
    If you move/dance alot.. try to be a bit more relaxed ....
    if u dont move/dance.. then do it...
    Its all in the details and the over all "look" of your broadcast and how it stands out when customers "window shop"
    Go browse the models on sites where you can see the snap-shot of what they do in free room and ask yourself..." would I stand out the way Im presenting myself today"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinydancer23 View Post
    i mainly work streamate. i'm a bbw, though on the smaller end (i'm 5'4" and 220, and most of it is t&a). i'm a lightskinned mixed redhead, 42g rack, blue eyes, tattoos, shaved, hood piercing. sometimes i do henna tattoos on my hands, which the guys seem to like (i do henna personally for fun).

    i'm wondering if i've hit some sort of bbw profit ceiling on streamate. i'm usually on the first page (within the first 3-6 rows) on the main page, and in the first or second spot on the bbw page. i stream with the encoder and sound and offer phone in exclusive. i have toys (though not a large collection), and though i don't have a ton of different outfits, i do have nylons, high heels, etc.

    i interact a lot and talk in free, don't cave to a ton of requests but will tease guys and do requests for gold (although i very rarely get gold), i am pretty up front about the fact that i only take requests in private. i do just about everything mainstream in private (blowjob, toys, cumshow, anal with fingers, double penetration, oil show), and special requests/fetishes as well as phone and dom/sub in exclusive. most of my privates and exclusives are 3-10 minutes long, sometimes the fetish guys last a little longer. i usually give all my attention to the chat and am not playing with my phone or surfing the internet at the same time.

    i use daily pay so i only make 30% instead of 35% of profits.

    for the longest time on streamate i charged around 3.99/min and averaged about $10-$20 an hour. i would go forty minutes without anyone taking me private. etc. right now i'm at 2.89/3.49 for private/exclusive and i'm averaging $20-$30 normally, $35-$40 once in a blue moon. i've experimented with pricing as high as 3.99 or 4.49 pvt/4.99 excl.

    i feel like i've hit a wall with regards to hourly average. i'm hoping if i spend a lot more time on cam this week that will help somewhat...but...for the most part, it just feels impossible to make $40+ for me. i'm afraid to raise my prices because i don't want to go back to the land of $20/hr and spending an hour with no privates.

    i'm wondering if this has to do with my body type/niche? not to be a narcissist but i think i am one of the more attractive bbws on streamate, and i tend to have better cam quality/outfits/lighting, etc. compared to the other bbws i see online there. a lot of my customers just want a curvy girl and are not all about ssbbws, so i don't think i'm being totally pigeonholed into that niche, although it seems like so few of us actually make it to the front page.

    okay, sorry for the novel/overshare...i just wanted to describe all the conditions that i think may be affecting this. i'm really hoping someone has tips for how to increase your hourly average. i don't know what else i can possibly do, other than splitcam (which, considering how intense the encoder is, probably won't work until i get a new computer). but it seems like there are girls who make much more hourly just working streamate. i'm up for tips or suggestions.

    thanks loves!
    Hey babe
    i can try checking out ur room again, this time stay in longer and then i can maybe suggest things to do or not do?
    but last time i was in there, u were laying on ur side, listening to some really good-chill music..u looked totally relaxed and in the mood..

    maybe to change things up a bit to lay or sit up and put some fast tempo songs on to and move around a bit?
    its worth a try to see whether or not movement and looking like ur having fun would change some things

    i loved the henna idea..it looked really good on ur hand last time i was in there!
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    Default Re: how to up hourly average?

    thanks y'all.

    i used to dance a lot (i love dancing) but it seemed like it didn't encourage people to take me private - they liked the free show a little too much. i usually lay down or sit when i'm in free and move around a bit on the bed. i'll try more moving around, or try dancing again and see if that helps. i have definitely noticed that smiling a lot helps - and i've been doing more of that and been better at looking "into it" since i stopped doing other things while working (i used to check sw, email, etc.). i think that's how i managed to get up to $30/hr on a regular basis. it seems like with the exception of a couple of women, most of the girls in my category tend to just sit still and look really bored, so in that respect i feel like i do stand out. but i guess not enough? i'll keep experimenting i'm also going to change my category to curvy for a couple of days and see if that makes a diff...if not, will change back to bbw

    also i've been thinking about doing henna elsewhere on my body as well (and maybe trying to sell clips of me actually doing the tattoos themselves while naked on c4s...surely someone somewhere would get off on that, lol!). i just haven't had a chance to do it since the henna that was on when luxi came in faded a couple days ago (it takes about 4-6 hrs per hand/foot between putting it on and waiting for it to stain). plus i have to do it in shifts because i can only do one hand at a time. i love doing it for fun and it looks pretty cool in shows

    thanks for the tips and encouragement!

    eta: there are two things i KNOW i am lacking...that is a set schedule and regular, consistent times online. it's not going to work right now because my schedule is NUTS and i'm moving in a week (and will be off cam for a few weeks while i apartment hunt and move all my shit), but i WILL do that starting in late august. still, it feels like there are some girls who are making more without having that consistency. and i'd like to do whatever i can to up my earnings in the meantime
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    Default Re: how to up hourly average?

    Lately, my internet has been really choppy and its due to my apartment upgrading their internet service. And then today, they completely shot off the internet but I remember right before they started upgrading I was averaging $25-30/hr and now because of my now sucky internet, I am averaging $10-15/hr. I'm not complaining much just because its still above minimum wage, but I wish my internet would just start acting normal again. Hopefully once they finish working on it today, I will be able to up my average. But if that's not the case....

    *crossing fingers that my bf's parents can help me pay my first month's rent so I can move tomorrow and have a faster internet*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    tiny. there is only 1 thing that bothers me the most and that is models not making their full potential $$ lol...
    I dont know about Daily pay and SM and why would that lower the traffic ( maybe P jenny can tell you if that could be the case) but I suspect if you have a good position on that site, its not DP's fault..
    The DP makes a new account so you lose all your regs and have to start from scratch.

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    Default Re: how to up hourly average?

    tiny if u wanna pm me ur name i will watch you and see if i can find anything that will help.

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    Default Re: how to up hourly average?

    When your new, how long does it take you to make money and get an hourly average? I have only averaged $20.00 for like 6 hours each day. This is my fifth day on SM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaramelXOXO View Post
    When your new, how long does it take you to make money and get an hourly average? I have only averaged $20.00 for like 6 hours each day. This is my fifth day on SM.
    That doesn't sound right... you should be making a lot more than that. Are you sure your camera/feed is working right and looking good? Are you using the encoder?

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    yeah my camera is working right, but I have to use my back up laptop, till i get pay to get my good laptop out. So the laptop i use now is kinda old, and i use Logitech webcam, but no one complains about my camera. Can't use the encoder, my internet is not fast enough for it. I'm also in the pregnacy category too. Its kinda weird, cause it seems like I've been stuck at the same amt. for the last 4 days and im on DP with streamate.

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    Stick to a routine schedule. That is the only way to do it. That is how the guys who like you, find you and make time to just see and wait for YOU.

    I am also a thicker girl. My income has floated around a lot $20-$50 hr when being inconsistent. But if you want consistent money (as consistent as you can get with a job like this, lol) you HAVE to keep to a routine. Because of this I now make a steady $35 $40 a hour. I am happy with that. I'm sure that if I keep this up I can build up a decent fanbase and it will maximize my time online. That's my goal.







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    i didn't have regulars or much of a base built up before i started daily pay, so for me, that aspect of it didn't drop my traffic. i think i did do slightly better before i switched to daily pay but i didn't work a lot before i switched so i couldn't say for sure. i've just seen girls around the boards speculating that there may be some kind of studio bias in streamate's traffic.

    it's not that i don't have a consistent hourly amount - i do make $20-$30/hr pretty consistently - it's just that i would like to figure out how to do better than that. especially since i've finally made it onto the first page and usually the top couple rows on streamate. hopefully once i move, get settled in, and start working again on a regular schedule that will help

    thanks for the input and tips everyone! i will def think about asking a couple of you to check into my room i really appreciate it.

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