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    and in person say they are full??
    Is it me??

    I called one place and they said they needed girls for the night shift and if my audition went well i could start that night. I went up there and the manager said they had too many girls, he even walked me through the club to show me and there were about 20 girls maybe 7-8 custies...

    this has been the result off all the clubs!
    Are they full or is it just me?? the only thing I can think of is 1. i have no experience or 2. I am going to clubs that are predominantily white and I am mixed with black&&&white
    but i'm thin, i'm tall, i'm pretty

    should i try in a few months?? is there a season where its easier to get hired
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    Default Re: Why do clubs say they are hiring over the phone...

    Without knowing th specific club I'll go by what I've seen or experienced.

    1)Many clubs aren't hiring but want new blood for their amateur nights. More guys come into these nights and the clubs know it.

    2)Racism or they just don't like you. It's a hard industry often for those of color. I've seen clubs reject beautiful girls of color while hiring a fat slob white girl. However, I've been rejected for reasons like I am too muscular, too dark, too tall OR short, etc. In other words what they like and if you are not that they won't hire you.

    3)Could be the experience but more than likely the other two.

    Don't take rejection personally. It happens to everyone.

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    Clubs say they're hiring over the phone because they don't know what you look like. They don't want to tell a "10" no over the phone, because even if they REALLY aren't hiring... most clubs will make room for a new 10.
    From what I've observed anyway.
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    Default Re: Why do clubs say they are hiring over the phone...

    ... agreed, it's a chance for the clubs and customers to evaluate 'new meat' without costing them an extra dollar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decoda View Post
    and in person say they are full??
    Is it me??

    I called one place and they said they needed girls for the night shift and if my audition went well i could start that night. I went up there and the manager said they had too many girls, he even walked me through the club to show me and there were about 20 girls maybe 7-8 custies...

    this has been the result off all the clubs!
    Are they full or is it just me?? the only thing I can think of is 1. i have no experience or 2. I am going to clubs that are predominantily white and I am mixed with black&&&white
    but i'm thin, i'm tall, i'm pretty

    should i try in a few months?? is there a season where its easier to get hired
    thanks
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    Default Re: Why do clubs say they are hiring over the phone...

    I'm built like a white woman lol no ass i feel out of place in black clubs!! but they will hire me so..

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    Default Re: Why do clubs say they are hiring over the phone...

    ^What are you wearing to your auditions? How are you doing your hair/makeup?
    Just a few things to consider.

    I mean you never know. Most girls go looking hot and ready to strip... but I've seen girls show up and ask to audition with no makeup and looking like they walked in from the trailor park. LOL So I have to ask.

    To be completely honest... I feel like being black means you have to work harder as a stripper. A lot of clubs I've worked at that would hire mediocre white/hispanic girls wouldn't hire black girls unless they were SMOKIN hot. >>;
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    I actually look spanish i have very long hair almost to my butt, i'm very exotic looking.

    I wear tight gray pants (they arent jean material), a black strapless haulter top that make my boobs look great, & black stilleto's

    My hair is naturaly curly so i straighten it, and i wear full makeup, foundation, lashes, smokey eye..

    One housemom said "you're a pretty girl, we would love to have you but its so slow come back in a few weeks"... im like ok if you would love to have me then you would!! So i dont want to pop back up over and over. I wish they would just be upfront. I'd rather here a no than a maybe yes. ughhhh

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    its summer. probably is slow. if the club is worth it try again in a few weeks to show that your persistent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DesuvsDeath View Post
    Clubs say they're hiring over the phone because they don't know what you look like. They don't want to tell a "10" no over the phone, because even if they REALLY aren't hiring... most clubs will make room for a new 10.
    From what I've observed anyway.
    I agree with this. But don't be too discouraged... it IS summer, and a lot of clubs are hurting right now.

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    Default Re: Why do clubs say they are hiring over the phone...

    You coukd have just caught the manager on duty in a bad mood on a bad day. If you can get an inside hook find out which managers work which shifts and go audition on a different manager's day That's what I did at this other club and got hired.
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    My last club had three or four black girls working there, and I remember the owner telling the manager that he didn't want any more black girls hired, only white girls, cause they "had enough." I was a little surprised at how easily he was able to categorize like that...filling quotas, if you will. I don't think attraction works like that. But the guy was an idiot, so I wasn't too shocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firemaiden04 View Post
    My last club had three or four black girls working there, and I remember the owner telling the manager that he didn't want any more black girls hired, only white girls, cause they "had enough." I was a little surprised at how easily he was able to categorize like that...filling quotas, if you will. I don't think attraction works like that. But the guy was an idiot, so I wasn't too shocked.
    Idiots like that come by the truck load in this business. That's why I like to keep people informed about which clubs aren't worth wasting their time at. Its often great to see racist operated clubs lose their business. CH 3 is doing so bad that they have free house fees Sun - Thu just to get girls in. Thank goodness there are girls that know they're far too good to be treated like a 2nd class citizen and refuse to accept roach shit's (keith regano) crappy 4am shift by going to a different club.

    When OGs was run by Nick the dick, they refused to hire black girls unless they passed for white. Shortly before CH Too closed, they began hiring black girls but they keep the amount at a very low minimum. And with all the extras that club is known to have, it makes working there undesirable.

    Unfortunately for Treasures, Nick the dick took over from the start and rarely ever hires black girls. He's notorious for his dislike of black women.

    Club Paradise had lots of racist managers before undergoing new ownership. Even though ownership and management has changed, its still a lot like OGs when it come to hiring black dancers. You'll find some there but they like to keep the amount at a low minimum.

    Strip Hop is predominately black. They'll hire other races but not many want to work in a club that has a $125 housefee and not many customers.

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    woah woah woah....WOAH. $125 dollars for a HOUSE FEE?!

    wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decoda View Post
    I actually look spanish i have very long hair almost to my butt, i'm very exotic looking.

    I wear tight gray pants (they arent jean material), a black strapless haulter top that make my boobs look great, & black stilleto's

    My hair is naturaly curly so i straighten it, and i wear full makeup, foundation, lashes, smokey eye..

    One housemom said "you're a pretty girl, we would love to have you but its so slow come back in a few weeks"... im like ok if you would love to have me then you would!! So i dont want to pop back up over and over. I wish they would just be upfront. I'd rather here a no than a maybe yes. ughhhh
    Well, you sound Gorj. to me! It sounds like, from the above, that yes they are kinda slow right now, it being summer. + as mentioned, the mgr. you dealt with could be jerky/flakey or had an off day.
    I once applied for a server position @ a sports bar, & was told, "well we're not hiring, we just have the sign up to bring girls into the bar"
    I am sure you could get hired, if not there, somewhere else.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DesuvsDeath View Post
    Clubs say they're hiring over the phone because they don't know what you look like. They don't want to tell a "10" no over the phone, because even if they REALLY aren't hiring... most clubs will make room for a new 10.
    From what I've observed anyway.
    this is the reason they say yes on the phone.

    if the housemom told you to come back you should and remind her that she told you to return. the summer slump is real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    Also, the receptionist is one of the least filled in staff members, and was most likely told to tell everyone that they are hiring, when it's the manager and house mom who know that last week they just hired 3 new girls and could not possibly hire another one.

    THis is true alot of the time I talk to the receptionist, and when I go to the club I dont even get to SEE the housemom or the manager once the receptionist pages them. The manager and housemom I did see were very nice.

    Sucks because I am facing an eviction and this is the only option I have right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decoda View Post
    THis is true alot of the time I talk to the receptionist, and when I go to the club I dont even get to SEE the housemom or the manager once the receptionist pages them. The manager and housemom I did see were very nice.

    Sucks because I am facing an eviction and this is the only option I have right now.
    Check out other clubs. KEEP YOUR OPTIONS OPEN!
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    They won't reject you over the phone, without knowing what you look like first. Clubs have quotas and they all have different hiring standards. Some clubs only have a few black girls. I worked at a club with 1 other black girl besides myself. And,they refused to hire any more black girls until one of us quit. I have won amateur nights at clubs and not been hired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Italian_Bombshell849 View Post
    woah woah woah....WOAH. $125 dollars for a HOUSE FEE?!

    wow.

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    It sucks, but runaraounds are soooo common everywhere. I would say go back again in a few weeks, because they might just really be slow right now, but DON'T count on it. Most of the time, if a club is going to hire you, they'll just do it. Hell, I've even been told "Come back on X at X:00, you can work then, came back and got the "we're full"" Managers just don't care that they're wasting your time, and money. Make another round in a couple weeks and if the same thing happens, they probably just don't like you for some reason. god knows why, you sound very pretty, I'm sure you'll find a club somewhere where you can bank!

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    I am coming across the same thing. I feel like they are wasting my time and gas (it's expensive these days) going up there to just send me home. I've been told that because it's summer and school is out that they are full and to come back mid to late August. Maybe it's a seasonal thing. I live in a college town too so they excuse makes sense. I'd rather them be upfront and tell me that from the get go.

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    persistence definitely pays off

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    I have seen that often too, that they will say on the phone that they are hiring and then upon getting there there are "no openings". Often I know it's because I'm not what they are looking for or the manager that's on duty right then and there is not hiring, but another manager might well be. Some clubs have hiring quotas in regards to certain race, height, weight and number of girls per shift. Other clubs have a rule that girls may only audition on certain days of the week, have to do an amateur contest before getting hired, or may only begin working slow nights or day shift. I've seen all of the above and any combination of the above.

    Hopefully you have other clubs in your area you can try out at, or can try other managers and shifts at that club.

    - Seeing what type of club it is and what city you are in can give you an idea if you may run into problems as a black girl or not; there are a number of white clubs where hiring is still racist; sadly speaking. The same also holds true if you are a little curvier like me, I have to do the same thing to catch those clubs that want their women weighing 105 soaking wet, as I'd never get into any of them weighing in around 130 most of the time.

    - Trying to reach the manager on the phone may occasionally work and asking what their audition requirements are may help. Be aware in some clubs you cannot reach the manager at any time, other places you may get lucky on a slow weeknight. If you can't get a manager, ask what shifts they have, and who manages them, and when they hold auditions. Most door girls at least know that.

    - Auditioning or coming in on slow weekday nights is best; Mondays and Tuesdays are spectacular, as are Sundays in some areas. I've gotten in a place before because they had zilch for girls that night and I happened to be there ready to work, then wowed them with my hustling ability the first night.

    - When talking to a manager let them know that you are reliable and that you are looking to work all types of nights, not just on the busy ones.. many managers like hearing that you won't just be another one of those he or she has to fight with to come in Sunday through Wednesday.

    - Hit two clubs a night if you can per night on the slow nights. Trying to squeeze in more than two places leaves you frazzled and doing only one may leave you without a dancing gig for too long. It also makes it possible that you CAN possibly agree to work the night you audition, if you do so on a slow day that's often possible and encouraged.

    - Be a great conversationalist when you meet with the manager; many managers like more than just a pretty face. I've landed a few dancing jobs by that alone; by being able to converse more than just smiling and saying "wanna dance". In fact, in about half the places I worked I avoided auditioning all together with a nice, warm, customer service, professional approach upon meeting the managers.

    If the first round does not prove successful, try other shifts, wait two weeks and repeat or even try to be hired as a waitress or shot girl to begin with. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minaya View Post
    I have seen that often too, that they will say on the phone that they are hiring and then upon getting there there are "no openings". Often I know it's because I'm not what they are looking for or the manager that's on duty right then and there is not hiring, but another manager might well be. Some clubs have hiring quotas in regards to certain race, height, weight and number of girls per shift. Other clubs have a rule that girls may only audition on certain days of the week, have to do an amateur contest before getting hired, or may only begin working slow nights or day shift. I've seen all of the above and any combination of the above.

    Hopefully you have other clubs in your area you can try out at, or can try other managers and shifts at that club.

    - Seeing what type of club it is and what city you are in can give you an idea if you may run into problems as a black girl or not; there are a number of white clubs where hiring is still racist; sadly speaking. The same also holds true if you are a little curvier like me, I have to do the same thing to catch those clubs that want their women weighing 105 soaking wet, as I'd never get into any of them weighing in around 130 most of the time.

    - Trying to reach the manager on the phone may occasionally work and asking what their audition requirements are may help. Be aware in some clubs you cannot reach the manager at any time, other places you may get lucky on a slow weeknight. If you can't get a manager, ask what shifts they have, and who manages them, and when they hold auditions. Most door girls at least know that.

    - Auditioning or coming in on slow weekday nights is best; Mondays and Tuesdays are spectacular, as are Sundays in some areas. I've gotten in a place before because they had zilch for girls that night and I happened to be there ready to work, then wowed them with my hustling ability the first night.

    - When talking to a manager let them know that you are reliable and that you are looking to work all types of nights, not just on the busy ones.. many managers like hearing that you won't just be another one of those he or she has to fight with to come in Sunday through Wednesday.

    - Hit two clubs a night if you can per night on the slow nights. Trying to squeeze in more than two places leaves you frazzled and doing only one may leave you without a dancing gig for too long. It also makes it possible that you CAN possibly agree to work the night you audition, if you do so on a slow day that's often possible and encouraged.

    - Be a great conversationalist when you meet with the manager; many managers like more than just a pretty face. I've landed a few dancing jobs by that alone; by being able to converse more than just smiling and saying "wanna dance". In fact, in about half the places I worked I avoided auditioning all together with a nice, warm, customer service, professional approach upon meeting the managers.

    If the first round does not prove successful, try other shifts, wait two weeks and repeat or even try to be hired as a waitress or shot girl to begin with. Good luck.

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