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    So I am on Streamate and IMLIVE and I am just so fed up with the cheap asses! I set my price to the lowest one and get customers I raise it by a few cents and sit there with no one but beggars. I hate working my butt off for a few measly dollars. I exhaust myself and go to check my money and am like "Oh boy I just did all that for 13 whole dollars." So I'm thinking maybe I am not going to do too much in the lowest price range anymore. I'm thinking of telling custys that anal (fake anal) toys and certain acts are for higher prices or tips. Any suggestions or feel free to rant with me!

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    Trust me DON'T DO ANYTHING ON REQUEST(not even stand, twirl, kiss) in free chat. I will sometimes stand up or show my butt in free chat, but on my own time and never after anyone says "stand bb".

    If they need to "prove" I am real then they can just participate in the discussion in the room. Yes I do lots of light banter about politics, local news, sports, personal interests. I never talk sex in my free chat unless someone tips (and it has to be $5 gold or more).

    I do relatively well, usually around $400-600 a week if I cam full time.



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    Why on EARTH are you charging the lowest amount? By charging the lowest u r saying "I'm cheap. I'm not worth more. So I'm opening myself up for haggling and sketch dudes in my room". So raise your rates and act like u know you're worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maina View Post
    So I am on Streamate and IMLIVE and I am just so fed up with the cheap asses! I set my price to the lowest one and get customers I raise it by a few cents and sit there with no one but beggars. I hate working my butt off for a few measly dollars. I exhaust myself and go to check my money and am like "Oh boy I just did all that for 13 whole dollars." So I'm thinking maybe I am not going to do too much in the lowest price range anymore. I'm thinking of telling custys that anal (fake anal) toys and certain acts are for higher prices or tips. Any suggestions or feel free to rant with me!

    Don't set your price to the lowest hon! You can already see it's not working for you. When I raised my price I found that I had little to no traffic for a few days but then started to build regulars who actually had money. Low prices attract men with no jobs and no money to spend.

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    That is something I have not tried Aria. Like being a status symbol people expect to pay more for something that is worth more. Its just everyone who I have talked to has told me "keep your prices low low low to get privates and remember we are in a recession." Do you really think that raising my rates to the higher end will get more privates?

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    Good point Laurie God if this is true and I can actually make more money this way I owe you ladies a lot!

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    Marina, my prices are slightly more on the high end (I charge $3.99 a minute on both SM and imlive. If they want exclusive it is $4.99 a minute). I have experimented with lower prices and to be honest with you I sold less private chat minutes when I was at a lower rate.

    For example when I was $1.99/min the last week of June on SM I sold a total of 592 private chat minutes.

    Then when I changed my price to $3.99 a minute the next week I sold a total of 620 private chat minutes.

    It makes a big difference! I find less guys BS me at a higher rate. They are more likely to take me seriously.



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    Girl get your prices up!! It's one thing if your new. This is ain't pussy on sale! I only had one guy complain that I was too much too bad he left before I could've told him off. lol I'm in the middle as far as pricing goes. I agree with everyone that stated that the clients you receive are not quality clients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maina View Post
    Its just everyone who I have talked to has told me "keep your prices low low low to get privates and remember we are in a recession." Do you really think that raising my rates to the higher end will get more privates?
    Who is telling you to keep prices low? Is this a cam host? Are those hosts making a lot of money consistently?
    I have made more and it's a whole lot less work and more pleasant to deal with men who have money. It took working through some slow times and some days I still don't make much but the good days more than make up for it. It takes a bit of time to build regulars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OJenni! View Post
    Trust me DON'T DO ANYTHING ON REQUEST(not even stand, twirl, kiss) in free chat. I will sometimes stand up or show my butt in free chat, but on my own time and never after anyone says "stand bb".
    Why shouldn't she do anything in free chat or anyone for that matter? (like stand, turn around)

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    Its not a recession everywhere. The world does not revolve around the USA, well it does to some extent, but really....

    The people that you call working class are the ones most hit by the recession. Factory workers, sales agents, retail managers, autoworkers, etc.

    doctors, lawyers, teachers...well not so much. Heck even some businesses are booming! Like seriously some call centres and collection agencies are making money hand over fist.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rileiy View Post
    Why shouldn't she do anything in free chat or anyone for that matter? (like stand, turn around)
    I think you are right about that.



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    When I charge more I make more. On SM I charge 3.99 and 4.99 and on AW I charge 1.49£ and 2.49£ (so almost $5CDN). When I lower my prices I feel like crap and resentful.
    When I charge more I feel in control. I have a strong feeling of my own self worth and that is reflected in the prices I charge. I know I'm worth top dollar, so I charge top dollar.

    Did you know that at the hight of the recession the house of Hermes (couture) reached record HIGH sales? Why? Because those ppl that appreciate quality SPEND on quality to keep their spirits high when the economy is low. Spending $2k on an incredible bag makes you feel better than spending $25 on some faux leather trash that breaks a strap in a week.

    Apply that to cam girls. Spending $5/min on a funny, smart, ENGAGING cam girl will be more satisfying that spending $.99/min on a bored tired grumpy cam girl, resentful that she's making $.34/min doing this after the site takes their cut.

    Who do you want to be treated like? Value Village or Tiffanys? Fast food or fine dining?

    Fuck the recession. Gimme all your money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arialandre View Post
    When I charge more I make more. On SM I charge 3.99 and 4.99 and on AW I charge 1.49£ and 2.49£ (so almost $5CDN).
    ThreadJack-I was trying to figure out my prices for AW and was looking at some of the girls I know from here to get a ball park idea and then i was using google to convert... I think I maybe calculating wrong. Does AW use EUR or GBP? The "AdultWork Thread" says Euro, which is where I think I got confused. When I'm doing your calc it isn't coming out as you say using EUR. I thought my priced seemed high compared to other models.



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    Ugh. Girl I know what you mean about wanting to charge lower to get more money!!! I just started, but when I had my prices set to 3.99/4.99, business was soooo slow I wanted to fall asleep! Not only that, but I was getting short short privates -some without even saying a "thank you" or "I hope you enjoyed that". It was almost as if they were watching to see how much time they'd spent with me! Tonight I set it to 2.99/3.99 and did good! $143 for my whole night.

    With that decrease in price though..unfortunately came the beggars. I had an average of 9-14 ppl in my room the whole night and loooots of begging, but I had some pretty great privates too! Not sure which is worse..the begging -which I can ignore- or the lack of money -which I'm not in dire need of right now.

    All I can say is maybe try a lower range first, then if you're getting a good amount of privates, then maybe up it a little...like a few cents a day or something...hardly noticeable to most, but you'll see the increase in your earnings! That way, you can build regulars, and increase your earnings all at the same time!

    I decreased a whole dollar today, just to see what business would be like. I had planned on changing it back in the morning, but I may take the advice of the smart ladies here and build some regulars, then increase slightly over time.

    As for going any lower than 2.99/3.99...uh...hell no. I'm/You're already under a dollar a minute. If they can't afford that, they can fuck themselves with a dildo!!!!!
    Sorry...anger over

    **Oh and I'm going to raise it tomorrow to probably about 3.20/4.20 <--or around that range and see how it goes. I'll let you know the outcome...hopefully it's worth it
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    AW uses GBP and I'm in Canadian Dollars. If your on Daily pay I find that it works out as what it says on the credits turnover page is about what I make in Canadian dollars AFTER all fees are taken out, AW cut, JCI cut and DP cut. So I make about $2.49 a min AFTER They take around 50% so it's like I charge $5/min. It's complicated messy Aria math that works out really well for me, because instead of worrying about what I will make AFTER the cut I know that what I'm seeing is pretty close to what I will really get.

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    Lord! I was using Euros. I'm so glad I didn't start working on there yet. Now I have to go update my profile... and it's so difficult to navigate! I'm going to let MissEgo know to update the AW thread. I have some math to do!

    No, I don't use DP (which makes me giggle bc I automatically think double penetration), but I will probably need to reconsider since I am having a hard time making ends meet with just payday checks =(

    Thanks, Girl~!

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    It gets super easy to navigate after like, a week. It's all good.

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    For new girls there is a learning curve. Beggars love newbies, becuase they will LIE to get you free or super cheap. Why would you listen to them?

    It is about self worth. I know I am worth the money. I always have top ratings and wonderful regulars. There willl always be beggars & cheap asses, these guys sit on the computer all day long instead of working a job. Of course they are going to pester all models for free or cheap shows.

    Why cater to them? They will never appreciate you at all.

    Men appreciate what they chase after, not something for free or cheap.

    You can eat at McDonald's or dine at Morton's. Yes both are beef, but way different in price, taste and experience. I will always want to be Morton's. I probably do eat at Morton's more than McDs, to tell the truth. Mortons once a month, McDs once a year. Because I know Morton's is worth it.

    If you don't know your value they never will.

    On SM is am $4.59 for prvt and $6.49 for exclusive. Rarely does anyone complain, never has a regular complained. Those men know I am worth it, that is why they come back time and time again. Heck, sometimes more than once in a day. Especially the new ones who took a chance and finally took me private. It is not unusual at all for them to take me prvt more than once on the 1st day.

    Positivity. Put out good thoughts, you get back what you put out into the world.

    Camming is like stripping. I have worked in a strip club where table dances where $7 yet no one had the money to get one. Go across the street, literally, worked in a club where they where $20 to $50 had so many, I didn't sit down or rest all night long.

    Fact is men will spend more money to respect you than to disrespect you.

    There is an old but true line. "Why be a cheap whore, when you can be an expensive hoe?"
    It is your decision on which one you want to be.

    Smooches,
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    recession my ass!! lol
    I was out to dinner with my husb yesterday... we could not find a parking space at 2 places we wanted... they were all packed!
    People always find $ for entertainment.
    he left a $28 tip for a $72 bill. he said he wanted to make it an even $100 lol
    I wish he was my customer on MFC lool

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    Well said Sam I love your posts!

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