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    We should Petition MFC to allow models to choose our own prices for groups and Privates!!!!!!

    That might level the playing field.
    I feel like im in the French Revolution!!!!!! "Sooooo Many heads sooooo little time!!"


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    But then, it could also result in the Adultwork effect: hundreds of girls charging $0.99 a minute, making it hard for the rest of us to charge a decent, hefty rate.

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    my guess is there would be models who wouldn't be down with that for the reason noa mentioned - mfc's setup is way different from other sites where girls can choose their own rates and it might fuck with some people's money and hustle if that changed. not to mention - leo hasn't ever shown himself exactly receptive to changes...especially if it leads to him making less than $3/min for private lol my guess is it would actually require top earning models threatening to quit or something for him to listen to such a petition. the fact is, he banks off of the playing field NOT being level. and so do the top earning models.

    but that's all guesswork on my part. folks might be receptive. who knows? good luck!

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    I am fine with $6 a min (and the $3 I make out of that). I think what needs changing is all those public shows and the freeloading off paying customers tips!



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    Ya fuck do NOT fuck with the cost of pvts. It's a great bargaining tool for taking customers off site!!! Deal with public shows but leave the cost of pvts the hell alone!

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    MFC has one of the highest payouts. I will never mess with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arialandre View Post
    It's a great bargaining tool for taking customers off site!!!
    Wow you read my mind. I was just about to say that. I guess that would take a bit more effort each time you do it though.

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    MFC also is by far the smartest camsite for models and customers and MFC...Why would you ever want to fuck with perfection?

    I hope to model the collective after MFC in the payout department, if all the girls agree.

    Unlike what most people say and think...MFC does NOT have $6 privates that pay the girls $3, and they DON'T pay 50% either.

    MFC has a sliding scale for customers based on their ability and expense and spending...

    the every-once-in-a-while guy pays $20 for 200 tokens, which DOES end up being 50% and $6 a minute for privates.

    The whale however pays 8cents for a token in bulk, and that means that he gets his private (at 60 tokens per minute just like the other guy) for (60 x 8 cents) $4.80 per minute, and YOU, the MFC model still gets her $3, and Leo only gets $1.80...HOWEVER, Leo DOES get the guy who buys tokens at a rate of $79+ per time he buys, so that $1.80 adds up, and it's still about 40% that Leo keeps.

    Fucking Genius!

    Every other camsite is pre-historic next to that model, and I believe that the Collective will take that idea even further. I know my camsites will.

    And best of all, no fucking stupid girl can charge 99damn CENTS and RUIN it for every other model. Allowing models to set prices is the WORST of ideas and a truly bad way to run things, because it always leads to a lowering of prices and a raise in expectations of customers for what they get for $1. Bad move....Keep MFC the same!

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    i wasnt trying to get it down to 99 cents lmao
    just 3 bucks a minute......
    and btw almost none of the girls get privates .....most are groups and that ends up being like what 2 bucks a min anyways?( when all the people leave except one) that is
    I say lowering the privates price per minute would bring in constant privates....
    I feel like im in the French Revolution!!!!!! "Sooooo Many heads sooooo little time!!"


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    nope it wonldn't... The price is not the turnoff, its the public shows. I get privates and groups and long privates at that. I base it on the quality not quantity when it comes to MFC. You want to change your price to $3 go to streamates, LJ, IMlive, Ifriends, etc.

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    Exactly, I still get privates. It's the insane public shows that fuck us up. Don't mess with perfection!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms.Lacey View Post
    nope it wonldn't... The price is not the turnoff, its the public shows. I get privates and groups and long privates at that. I base it on the quality not quantity when it comes to MFC. You want to change your price to $3 go to streamates, LJ, IMlive, Ifriends, etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arialandre View Post
    Exactly, I still get privates. It's the insane public shows that fuck us up. Don't mess with perfection!

    But thats just the point.....those are the guys who dont like the price for private ....
    see yall dont see the real business side of it.....less price more privates...more privates ....less time for public shows....less public shows.....and rinse repeat

    I know its hard for yall to believe .....but in truth how many of yall charge 6 bucks per/min on any other site?????

    And on the flipside .....maybe a great show could have a higher price....lets say a limit of $3-$14 per min....the higher guys would get higher privates but those of us who understand time is money ......i personally price my privates so i can make a certain amount of money as quickly as possible ....and for all those other threads ....i haven't noticed one issue getting the same amount of money each day.....except on MFC.....so i quit that shit for the summer.
    I feel like im in the French Revolution!!!!!! "Sooooo Many heads sooooo little time!!"


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    also i dont believe in camming 16 hours a day to get a lil money fuck that shit!.
    I feel like im in the French Revolution!!!!!! "Sooooo Many heads sooooo little time!!"


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    No hun you're missing the BIG PICTURE money side of it.

    For those ppl that do indy camming the high price is a good thing. Hustle the custies that WANT privates at a lower site to a different place. Skype shows where they pay with AlertPay. Build a site for yourself where you do indy shows from the site right there on line at a better price and higher percentage cut than MFC offers BOTH of you. Use the site as a content selling platform while at the same syphoning off those custies that would want pvt shows.
    Just because there are some of us that dont want to petition, it doesnt mean that we aren't business minded. it might just be that our business ideas are BIGGER than what you have thought of yet.
    Leaving MFC the way it is opens the door for me to convert MFC customers to my own site customers where the shows for them are cheaper and I get a higher percentage cut. As well as put them in a place where I'm not competing with over 1,000 other models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MzStar View Post
    and btw almost none of the girls get privates .....most are groups and that ends up being like what 2 bucks a min anyways?( when all the people leave except one) that is
    I say lowering the privates price per minute would bring in constant privates....

    I only get privates, and pretty much non-stop. I've never even had a group. People are definitely willing to pay the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fallout_grrl View Post
    I only get privates, and pretty much non-stop. I've never even had a group. People are definitely willing to pay the price.
    Maybe you are MiuMiu or PureDream?
    these 2 girls seem to be 2 of the few who get privates non stop..
    I get 1 prv a day if that

    What I would love is a members or "nude" area where we can "hide" when we are in a show on another site....
    And I want Party chat on MFC!

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    I get tons of privates everyday... on a bad day I average about 3 privates and on a good, I can get as many 10. No way I'd want to upset that.... I hate group shows though, at some point, the cheap bastards all bail out leaving one guy paying a few tokens to watch a cum show. I'm about to stop doing groups altogether.

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    MFC is not for everyone so if you don't make money on there... It's not the site for you. Don't change it just go somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MzStar View Post
    But thats just the point.....those are the guys who dont like the price for private ....
    see yall dont see the real business side of it.....less price more privates...more privates ....less time for public shows....less public shows.....and rinse repeat

    I know its hard for yall to believe .....but in truth how many of yall charge 6 bucks per/min on any other site?????

    And on the flipside .....maybe a great show could have a higher price....lets say a limit of $3-$14 per min....the higher guys would get higher privates but those of us who understand time is money ......i personally price my privates so i can make a certain amount of money as quickly as possible ....and for all those other threads ....i haven't noticed one issue getting the same amount of money each day.....except on MFC.....so i quit that shit for the summer.
    I Charge $6 on SM and I don't know what a 16 hour day looks like.

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    Also, does anyone here honestly believe that with at least 5 nice looking women during any busy time doing cum shows in public, that changing your price for privates and lower the average will HONESTLY help MFC? Lowering the already insanely low (FREEEEEEEE!!!) common denominator by dropping any average price will NOT help, since even at 99 cents or $3 you are competing with FREE shows of cucumber in the pussy and fuck machines and lesbo shower shows and on and on...

    Wanna do a petition? Do a fucking petition to stop the goddamn FREE shows that go beyond the STATED rules of MFC. In other words, an online petition to stop MFC from abusing their own rules.

    I am SO shocked that all you business savvy ladies...not ONE of you has a class action suit started...they get you to sign a contract which limits you in MANY ways, yet they state rules in that contract, that to compete and do well, you MUST breach your contract...Gotta be a FAT lawsuit in there somewhere that would also FORCE MFC to follw their own fucking rules and would make camming DOUBLE as profitable for everyone on every site in like ONE DAY (as soon as MFCs lawyers let them know they will lose the suit).

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    Oh yeah, and also...if that lawsuit changed the way MFC did things, guess what? like 50% less gawking freeloaders..MFC becomes MUCH more attractive.

    And you're allowed nudity and tease on MFC because THAT is in the rules, but No more free insertion/cum shows that the men can ALL jerk off to for free...

    SM girls...How many guys go back to SM or back to IM or to Indy sites, or to all the OTHER places, the day MFC is forced to follow the MFC rules? (and it doesn;t hurt MFC at all, because those guys aren't spending MONEY on MFC anyway)

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    PS. Once you make it so there are NO free cum shows, no where a guy can see a live girl doing full masturbation and such, on the WHOLE internet, your privates will icrease 100%+ that day. Because even the cheapskates will be forced to spend SOMETHING to see a "good" show.

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    I also only do privates on MFC and they're also pretty much non-stop (thank god). No countdowns, no free shows, just privates. It works when you commit to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambalina View Post
    Also, does anyone here honestly believe that with at least 5 nice looking women during any busy time doing cum shows in public, that changing your price for privates and lower the average will HONESTLY help MFC? Lowering the already insanely low (FREEEEEEEE!!!) common denominator by dropping any average price will NOT help, since even at 99 cents or $3 you are competing with FREE shows of cucumber in the pussy and fuck machines and lesbo shower shows and on and on...

    Wanna do a petition? Do a fucking petition to stop the goddamn FREE shows that go beyond the STATED rules of MFC. In other words, an online petition to stop MFC from abusing their own rules.

    I am SO shocked that all you business savvy ladies...not ONE of you has a class action suit started...they get you to sign a contract which limits you in MANY ways, yet they state rules in that contract, that to compete and do well, you MUST breach your contract...Gotta be a FAT lawsuit in there somewhere that would also FORCE MFC to follw their own fucking rules and would make camming DOUBLE as profitable for everyone on every site in like ONE DAY (as soon as MFCs lawyers let them know they will lose the suit).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arialandre View Post
    No hun you're missing the BIG PICTURE money side of it.

    For those ppl that do indy camming the high price is a good thing. Hustle the custies that WANT privates at a lower site to a different place. Skype shows where they pay with AlertPay. Build a site for yourself where you do indy shows from the site right there on line at a better price and higher percentage cut than MFC offers BOTH of you. Use the site as a content selling platform while at the same syphoning off those custies that would want pvt shows.
    Just because there are some of us that dont want to petition, it doesnt mean that we aren't business minded. it might just be that our business ideas are BIGGER than what you have thought of yet.
    Leaving MFC the way it is opens the door for me to convert MFC customers to my own site customers where the shows for them are cheaper and I get a higher percentage cut. As well as put them in a place where I'm not competing with over 1,000 other models.

    Bambalina : would have put that in the petition....But i seriously doubt MFC would do that......seriously.

    Arialandre: Is everyone jacking MFC traffic lol??????I DO see what your saying about that part but......I just want it to work inside the site too.....what if suddenly MFC hired a few mods and said you cant advertise other sites ,your own site,other payment options.....then banned everyone that did.....instant crash!

    trust me i only jack the traffic
    but i just wanted to make it possible to earn within the rules.....even tho i think mfc doesnt even have those rules (YET).
    I feel like im in the French Revolution!!!!!! "Sooooo Many heads sooooo little time!!"


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    Well, posted the petition to actually get MFC to change their rules to help all camgirls (including the ones doing insertion shows and masturbacam) and it's up there as ...Whatya think, might it help a little bit?

    Can we get enough girls to sign it? Can you help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MzStar View Post
    Bambalina : would have put that in the petition....But i seriously doubt MFC would do that......seriously.

    Arialandre: Is everyone jacking MFC traffic lol??????I DO see what your saying about that part but......I just want it to work inside the site too.....what if suddenly MFC hired a few mods and said you cant advertise other sites ,your own site,other payment options.....then banned everyone that did.....instant crash!

    trust me i only jack the traffic
    but i just wanted to make it possible to earn within the rules.....even tho i think mfc doesnt even have those rules (YET).
    Great minds think alike darlin'!

    Go check the petition I did and see what you think?



    Maybe you can help this fucker take off....

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