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    You can derive this data yourself by simply becoming a cam model on MFC.

    And no, if the logic holds, then if x is how much a top 20 model made in 2008 and MFC grows at a rate that results 5 times that revenue now, then a top model should be making 5x to secure the same ranking.
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    Last edited by Bambalina; 08-18-2011 at 08:35 AM. Reason: Why not?

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    [Alot of crap I don't honestly care about DELETED]


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    Last edited by Bambalina; 08-18-2011 at 08:35 AM. Reason: No more of this. Toooo much time!

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    It's a direct correlation, not theory. And I'm not proposing a hypothetical - I'm drawing from direct evidence.

    I have that evidence because I've been working the site. I can look at my earnings, I can see my rankings, I can calculate my averages, I can graph that shit on my spreadsheet, and if I'm bored enough, I can make pretty educated guesses on the site's overall revenue. Everything I'm looking at points to a very strong site with no signs of decline.

    You can choose to dismiss what I'm saying - it's fine - but until you work the site, everything you say is grounded in guesswork. So... work the site. You'll have all the evidence you need.

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    You realize that the 'top 20' concept is arbitrary, right? It doesn't signify anything. It's just a psychological device used to drive internal competition. There's no actual carrot on the end of that stick.

    Regarding the drop-off, I don't see it. I make far more than I need within the first two weeks of every month. And I'm well behind the top 20.

    But again, you can find this information yourself easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starxx View Post
    aren't profits increasing on MFC?

    I have only read a small part of this thread, but wanted to confirm, performers turnover has been gradually increasing for the last few months, cant comment on what they were last year but there is currently no overall decline on MFC.


    Source: dp payroll, just under 400 members in total. Including top models.

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    [Alot of crap I don't honestly care about DELETED]

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    Jenny's figures are far from useless. Of course it's relevant that she's only talking about the last few months but a rise is a rise is a rise , maybe we can't see the difference between the rate of rise now and the rate of rise pre rule breaking - but we SEE a rise.

    That can't ever be useless, because Bambalina, if the girls are making more money .... consistently ( which is info we CAN see from Jenny's figures ) , then your plight is going to be a very difficult if not impossible one. Girls and MFC owners, are not going to want to change something which is working for them right under their nose- however much ones hypothetical figures prove otherwise.

    If anything, girls doing well on mfc, are going to rebel against the reform , in fear of losing money . When someone sees what they are doing working, it's going to be very hard to convince them they they're not doing it right.


    ''Lastly, I believe the very fact of signing up with Jenny will affect a models income. Firstly because if she is making $1000 per pay period, the day she signs up with Jenny, she must now make more to get her $1000 and make-up the percentage which goes to Jenny, and secondly becausse daily pay will DEFINITELY alter how you work. Get back to me in ONE YEAR Jenny, and remove all the girls who started DP within the last 90 days from your numbers, and I bet we'll see a decline.''

    I really think Jenny has the sense to take this into consideration ;-) For a start , you'll be surprised at how many girls don't give much of a crap about the 6% and don't cover it by earning more . Also , Jenny doesn't have access to a girls earnings UNTIL she starts with DP , so Jenny can only monitor the increase % as a constant , so it isn't affected by the change over to Daily pay . When Jenny sees a rise in traffic and payments - there is generally a rise in business on said site - I know this from experience ;-)

    And that is what most people's decisions come down to -- Experience ! Not down to hypothetical calculations or what if this change was made and this rule implemented . Most of us when we see a rise in our earnings , for better or worse ,we won't be shifted ;-)

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    Hmm...you're right!

    I see hundreds of threads looking through the archives on how MANY MANY MANY women are making MUCH less on MFC, and how there was just a BIG thread on the "summer slump" and so on, but that just doesn't cut it...

    Either way, I had a huge epiphany today about this whole thing. And you know what?

    I honestly don't care anymore. Since that last post up there...*poof* ...don't care. Honestly.

    Girls can de-value themselves and every other cam-model on earth...and you all can defend that to the ends of the earth.

    Giving away your main product for free is a bad idea. Supply and Demand is a reality, lowering the expectations and willingness to spend of your customers over the long haul is a terrible idea, ad breaking you word, and breaking rules you agreed to for the good of the site and the setting of a level playing field, is shady, wrong and cheating.

    That's what I think, and I don't really care what others say about it. Since no-one really stays on topic much anyway.

    It's all ok, I want to work on my sites and post about my interests in this business, and the MFC stuff takes too much time and is something I do for others more than for myself.

    So, you uys get the last word. I'm done.

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    PJ has the data. Listen to her.
    Last edited by Noa; 08-18-2011 at 10:43 AM. Reason: moot.

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    A> My being out "trumps" your being out, because I deleted our coversation, and honestly don;t care anymore.

    Not being condescending, just bowing out.

    B> If Jenny were to present her evidence, in a scientific manner, we could play. Otherwise, I have reasons to question said evidence.

    (If you'd like to know what I mean Jenny, please ask in PM..I won't answer this thread anymore)

    C> Nice way to nullify all the women who are experiencing a serious downturn on MFC profits. Go argue with them in their threads about how they are making more and just don't know it.

    D> I showed that I have at LEAST ONE <1> person's data to use in my post up there, and also that I have access to model data...My data does not show what yours does, nor does it jibe with Jenny's.

    E> I'm out. This post will cease to exist within 24 hours.

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    If you bail out when people don't agree with you , there is little point in posting . I won't respond here to your response to my above post , because as you've already stated , you're out -

    All the best with whatever you go for , and here's hoping my post didn't cause offense. I didn't think it warranted the sarcasm returned by you , but I guess again , I've somehow managed to upset you , and I apologize.

    Missy .

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    Assuming the sarcastic 'you're right ' , was aimed at me :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukmissy View Post
    Assuming the sarcastic 'you're right ' , was aimed at me :-)
    No, it is aimed at all of those who have de-railed this thread. Posted stuff that wasn't germaine to the thread. Ignored every point but the one they feel like nitpicking, attacked the "Collective" and me personally, etc.

    No problem with you. No sarcasm directed at you.

    And honestly, I am just tired of the subject. Aren't you?

    I'll revisit it someday, especially if outside efforts in this area come to fruition.

    It is fine if some think I'm "crazy" because I choose to end involvement in something on a forum. But then, they probably don't have a 4 yr. old child, 3 web sites being worked on, a forum to tend to, a collective to run, several women to promote, etc.

    So it just came to me, like a bolt of lightning. I am pretty much the only one who thinks this is worth fighting for, and who sees reality for what it is. I have done it before and been argued with and then people say "just like B predicted!" like I'm Nostradamus...when it is just OBVIOUS.

    So, ok, everyone now knows my predictions, and my warnings...and pretty much, most on here don't care. So be it.

    I fought the good fight. Done.

    Love everyone...No hard feelings.
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    Just popping in to say that when I first started on MFC (Feb or March?) I was making my minimum in my set amount of hours, no problem.

    Money I have made since April?

    500 tokens, mostly from one person as opposed to the 10-15 regular premiums I used to have. They're still THERE, they just dgaf. I haven't even made payout in 3 months. I made that one girl stop tipping me there because she and I both found it GROSSLY unfair that she would make my minimum by herself, and the guys sitting in my room got to watch. She could have booked SEVERAL indie shows with me for what she was paying me!

    I will concede that I am not a popular model, nor am I on daily pay.

    It got SO BAD SO FAST that I eventually started being there one day a week (starting in May, when earnings dropped to about 20-30 T A DAY TOPS and had settled there for over a month) and frustratingly enough, things have been slightly better. I MADE A WHOLE 50t this month!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambalina View Post

    Well, here's a chance for those who want to do something to do something.

    Here's a petition to change the way MFC does business. To force them to take responsibility and not put the law enforcement burden on their camgirls.

    A way to stop the free masturbation and maybe even put the Genie back in the bottle and take camming back to the days before FREE shows.

    If you want to help there are a TON of ways you can. Some will follow in thsi thread.

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    another petition for the same purpose.

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    That is my email to MFC: they answered only the last of my questions ignored all the others...
    Hello. Im now watching the rules for models. earlier I watched the models on the site. and I'v notices few things like...
    you say:
    1.NO masturbation, penetration, using sexual toys or devices, cunnilingus, or other Hardcore sexually explicit activity.
    * I saw as a not paying member few models who do this kind of shows with sexual toys, toys penetration. wich makes me wonder why would a member want to pay if he can see it in the free chat?

    2.Illegal drugs, or drugs that may be perceived as illegal in other locations. (e.g. Medicinal marijuana)
    *I saw a girl smoking a bang. (marihuana) - I realy dont mind or care. but shouldet it be forbidden?

    3.MyFreeCams.com allows the exchange of any kind of information between models and members, including e-mails, online messenger screen names; however, this information MAY NOT be used to provide webcam shows or receive payment outside of the website.

    * once again many models members set a tokens price for private shows in skype- how that happends?

    4.the last few questions-
    do you record my shows?
    can you use my video's or photos to sell them to members or to anyother place?
    (Im not talking about thouse who can record it somehow) i mean if there is an option for members to record me from yore site? or to take pictures without my promition?

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    dont waste your time they dont care. yeah the models are all doing it for free, and the members just float from room to room watching the cumshows all day like a fucking documentary.. ie, they dont type and they dont even fap, they just like watching a girl fuck herself because its free so why not.,.. this site pisses me off beyond words. and i hate it because its the only site i make decent money on, but all i do is pvts and sell videos, fuck getting my precious bits out in free chat for all those ignorant basics. I wonder if there is someone out there who could make a script that could ban all the basics in 10 seconds.

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    ^ Or the guy that spent $20.00 once over 5 years ago and wears his Premium Status a badge of honor while he comes in barking orders like he owns the place. If you have the pleasure of going into the lounge you will see all that is discussed and lets just say that they lie on models left and right calling models scams and thieves. I even tried to ask one guy who the model was but surprisingly he no longer knew her name and the original name he provided for his most recent complaint hadn't been logged in for 8 months. Goes to show it only take a few assholes to ruin your income because the guys were all talking about how they wouldn't go and spend in that model's room again. Not to mention how some look forward to being banned.

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    o.O

    Oh god, the drama. I love it. Reading it, I mean, not participating. Even when I'm right about something, even a mediocre troll can cut me down in five seconds and leave me stuttering... "Oh yeah? Well... well... FUCK YOU BUDDY!"

    Anywho. MFC. The petition. I actually signed the one that was mentioned by Lunae, because I, for one, seriously dislike the free shows going on. I guess I could say that it's none of my business, but it kind of is. I get people who come into my room and instantly leave because I'm not naked. I don't sit around doing nothing; I generally dance during my shows. It has the double benefit of being entertaining without nudity, and at least getting in a workout if it's a bad night for tips. Douchebags are going to be there no matter what. Even if NO model got naked in their free chat, people would be begging for it, and you're never going to keep EVERY model from breaking the rules, especially when you've got a few hundred to keep in check (with more coming in every week; someone mentioned the turnover rate... mmm... turnovers...).

    It only kind of affects me, though. I should be able to attract and keep my own customers, and the fact that I can't attract tippers obviously says something about ME. Hell, maybe it IS because I don't get naked. I dunno. I assume there's something that I haven't caught onto yet that's holding me back. I rarely get Privates, though.

    Um... okay I had a point to all this. OH! Okay, so the big reason that I dislike the rule-breaking is that there ARE rules. I'm kind of a stickler for rules, and MFC only enforces them selectively. You're not allowed to have men on your cam (I remember seeing something about a girl getting her account deleted because of a man SPEAKING off-cam), and you're not allowed to post links to competition; I can understand both of these rules, and they enforce them heavily. The "no nudity or penetration in free chat" rule is ALSO there for a reason; free chat is supposed to be a preview to get people to want to go Private or Group, and there are people who do even despite being able to get it for free, but there's also something to be said for the thought, why would they pay to get something that they can get for free? My opinion on all of this, however, should be taken extremely lightly, since I'm not very successful on MFC. People claim to love me and call me sexy and all that good stuff, but it's only Basics and the I-paid-$20-two-years-ago Prems who ever actually want to talk to me. It's like pulling teeth trying to get people to tip or take me Private. That's probably my fault though.



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