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    Quote Originally Posted by Noa View Post
    ^^ What Sam said.

    I don't believe free shows are killing camming. I do believe free shows are changing camming. This petition reminds me of the RIAA doing its best to keep the old model of the music industry in place without realizing that the entire industry has already changed.
    I totally agree. The industry is changing like every other industry. We saw what happened to the music, cd sales, movies, dvds, blockbuster..etc....I mean shit, if i can download a program for free online, I WILL. We need to let go of these unrealistic hopes that we can get the industry to be back to how it was when it first started, but the market is so saturated now that the demand for YOU doesn't seem that big anymore. We need to work with how the industry is changing. We're not breaking the rules because it's what the sites want, it's what the customers want. And of course you don't have to adhere to their every demand, but find a happy balance in keeping you happy and keeping them happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noa View Post
    ^^ What Sam said.

    I don't believe free shows are killing camming. I do believe free shows are changing camming. This petition reminds me of the RIAA doing its best to keep the old model of the music industry in place without realizing that the entire industry has already changed.

    And in what way exactly are free shows BENEFITING you or anyone else? Is it benefiting you more than NOT showing your ass for free?

    Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? It's quite an old concept, I know.

    Free shows are just that. FREE. Nobody can make money when the product is FREE.
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    And in what way exactly are free shows BENEFITING you or anyone else? Is it benefiting you more than NOT showing your ass for free?

    Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? It's quite an old concept, I know.

    Free shows are just that. FREE. Nobody can make money when the product is FREE.
    I think by free show people mean public shows on myfreecams. They're free in a sense that everyone can watch but usually their is a topic that is met before the "free show" starts. My "free shows" all though i dont call them that i prefer public show, usually costs about 100 to get naked and 200 to get nasty.

    now if you are actually doing a free free show, i agree..... thats dumb

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    We need to work with how the industry is changing. We're not breaking the rules because it's what the sites want, it's what the customers want. And of course you don't have to adhere to their every demand, but find a happy balance in keeping you happy and keeping them happy
    If you work with how the industry is changing you will begin to make less and less money, until the point where the cam companies OWN your ass. This is the exact mentality that is wrong with masses.

    If you see that you aren't making the same money that you did 1 year ago, 2 years ago.. then you'd understand. I know I'm not making anywhere near what I used to. Neither is anyone else in America. There are very few people that can make money off of a recession.

    THE MUSIC industry is QUITE different. 10 Years ago.. your one hit wonder didn't make a million and drive around in a Benz with a wrist full of fucking blood diamonds... is that fair?

    The porn industry has very few options of being 'reinvented'... quite opposite of music. Porn is porn. We've already got a million fetishes, and a million girls to adhere to them... at this point I think the only place we could go is having our image teleported to customer location so they could feel up and fuck our holograms.
    Back in the day, I got my tunes for free on the radio. I bought the whole album at the store.. because not every song would be played.

    Now, if we aren't buying the music.. then where in the hell does all that money they have come from? PRODUCT PUSHING.

    Soon, we will be advertising TIDE, Sprite, COKE!!!!!!!!! In the background!

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    I was using Bambalina's choice of words. I assume she was referring to public shows.

    Whether or not you do public shows should be a personal decision, or strategy. I don't do them, but it's not for any moral reason, it's because they're not profitable for me and because I don't think I'm very good at them. When other women do public shows, it just means that the guys who are into that hang around those rooms for the public dynamic, while I attract the guys who prefer one-on-one interaction.

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    ^^ Yes, but unfortunately there are more men who want to watch for free, than there are that want to pay. If there was nobody who was even able to get a free show- then we would be making way more money like how we used to.

    If you want to do free shows.. then get on Yahoo, or some other type of exhibitionist group. Not a paysite.
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    Be reinventing i don't mean reinventing porn. Porn is porn, fetish is fetish... i'm talking about the means of distribution. The music industry suffered due to napster, now itunes..etc... So now cds are almost obsolete. The movie industry changed where theatres are struggling and blockbuster is starting to become a foreign concept due to netflix and pirating movies. Technology is the greatest factor thats making the changes occur. Technologies has flooded the internet with free porn....guys can record, sell..even make a profit off our work....

    We should stick to our guns but you can't turn a blind eye in the way media is now. You can't fight it nor the consumers. You just gotta exploit the weaknesses and areas that are still profitable and reach the demand that consumers have, those that cannot be found anywhere else....We can sit here and think about the perfect cam world, but in reality we're in a fucking recession and need to change along with technology and consumer wants. I'm not saying show anything for free but some compromise and restrategizing should be done.,

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    Quote Originally Posted by xfatrabbitx View Post
    Be reinventing i don't mean reinventing porn. Porn is porn, fetish is fetish... i'm talking about the means of distribution.
    So we should distribute it for free? Well, not for free... we have to make 2000 tokens from SOMEONE... and then just show off our goodies to the rest for free. Kind of like pirated music and movies. Someone had to buy that album, that movie ticket.. and then they give it to us.. for FREE! We don't pay for anything! We're so lucky.

    Quote Originally Posted by xfatrabbitx View Post
    The music industry suffered due to napster, now itunes..etc... So now cds are almost obsolete. The movie industry changed where theatres are struggling and blockbuster is starting to become a foreign concept due to netflix and pirating movies.
    So, if there are no movie theaters.. they can send it directly to our TV and buy our ticket for $5... until of course.. they realize someone is streaming the movie LIVE on the internet... movies will start looking like shit... until they become non-existent. People don't realize they are their own worst enemy.. this is also why music sucks now! We are killing our artists.

    Quote Originally Posted by xfatrabbitx View Post
    Technology is the greatest factor thats making the changes occur. Technologies has flooded the internet with free porn....guys can record, sell..even make a profit off our work....

    We should stick to our guns but you can't turn a blind eye in the way media is now
    So.. let's make it easier for people to steal and make money off of our free shows by giving these 'free shows' to rooms full of only maybe 5 paying guys and 200 non-paying guys?
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    I understand what you're saying. The way I work works for me, and I'm not suggesting anyone else to work that way. I'm not saying at all that that's the way it should be or the formula for success. I never said that, I said maybe it's time to remap things out and change your game plan if you want to reach success. You are someone who said that they're not making as much as they did last year. Sometimes if shits not working, you gotta go back to the drawing board.

    All i'm saying is times are changing, technology is changing, consumers likings and demands for porn. Your business plan should always be updating and revising to fit the fast pace of a market.

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    It's true that if there were no way in hell anybody could see anything without paying, there would be more paying members. But for whatever reason, public shows are profitable - at least, for a few people - so the floodgates are already open. Even if MFC changed its rules, the other big sites have already seen that public shows bring in money.

    I definitely think everyone should have to pay. No question. But the reality is that they don't all have to pay. They don't have to pay for porn and they don't have to pay for cam shows. So I think it's a matter of either learning to work the system or identifying what you can offer that public shows don't offer.

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    Porn companies made the money, not the models.

    Social networks let us the models build a brand, a name, direct traffic to our cam shows. Never has there been a time where we as individual models can make money without a studiohead deciding who is hot and gets work or who the fans want to seel.

    If girls dont like the contracts they signed then dont sign it. Plain and simple.

    If you want a company to change a contract for you to give you a higher percentage then become a power player. Become their top money making model then ask for a better contract. A model with 100,000 to a million friends on whatever social network is a major traffic player these days. She can also ask for a higher percentage of the cut.

    Cam companies want models who work hard, who have a strong base of customers THEY BRING IN THEMSELVES.

    If you don't like the way the game is played then find a way to get what you want. I have done that many of times. Used my traffic, the name I built to get what I want out of porn companies and cam companies.

    I signed my SM contract the way it is because I thought it was fair to me and them. I will gladly take the extra 40% for guys I bring in and the 20% they spend on other models all day long.

    Before only affiliates got that kind of cut, now we as models can to with SM.

    There are many new start up that will give you a huge percentage to sign up. But you will have to suffer & work until they get traffic going.

    I do abide by the rules and I make money. So it can be done legitly.

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    GOOD GOD PEOPLE! THE SHOWS ARE NOT FREE!

    They are public shows that are FAR more lucrative than privates. Do some people get to watch for free? Sure! But I'd much rather makes $250 for a 10 minute show than to make $50.

    I understand that not every girl's morals allow her to do such a thing, and I truly get that--but don't hate on the handful that do and bank big time doing so!

    In all seriousness, if you don't like the MFC format, and the public shows that go with it, there are a ton of other sites to cam on. I would HATE to see MFC be the same as every other cam site that bore the hell out of me.

    MFC is changing the industry, and more and more cam sites are gonna follow the same doctrine soon. Go with the flow or go against it, it's still gonna happen.

    Most importantly, NO ONE is making any girl do anything. It's each cam girls' prerogative what she does or doesn't do on cam. It's socialistic behavior to try and force a girl to follow what you may believe. To each their own... let girls decide for THEMSELVES what they want to do. Don't try and dictate your personal beliefs on me or any other cam girl.

    This whole topic is sounding a lot less about "justice" and "virtue" and much more about jealousy and envy. Really, I'm shocked that a group of girls in a very liberal profession that we are in would have the chutzpah to turn around and take such a right wing stance.

    It's gotta be about personal gain, because since zero laws are being broken, there is no other reason to complain about it other than jealousy and envious intentions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xfatrabbitx View Post
    I understand what you're saying. The way I work works for me, and I'm not suggesting anyone else to work that way. I'm not saying at all that that's the way it should be or the formula for success. I never said that, I said maybe it's time to remap things out and change your game plan if you want to reach success. You are someone who said that they're not making as much as they did last year. Sometimes if shits not working, you gotta go back to the drawing board.

    All i'm saying is times are changing, technology is changing, consumers likings and demands for porn. Your business plan should always be updating and revising to fit the fast pace of a market.
    The business plan is bullshit. EVERYONE could make money if NOBODY was giving it away for free.. and those who are making 'bank' in free.. could make MORE bank in PRIVATE. So, while you are sitting there making 200 tokens to see your tits.. another model is doing it for 50 tokens! Who's winning there? Only the customer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noa View Post
    It's true that if there were no way in hell anybody could see anything without paying, there would be more paying members. But for whatever reason, public shows are profitable - at least, for a few people - so the floodgates are already open. Even if MFC changed its rules, the other big sites have already seen that public shows bring in money.

    I definitely think everyone should have to pay. No question. But the reality is that they don't all have to pay. They don't have to pay for porn and they don't have to pay for cam shows. So I think it's a matter of either learning to work the system or identifying what you can offer that public shows don't offer.
    I've watched MFC and have literally felt sick. Women fucking themselves with foreign objects, pissing, and generally degrading themselves for pennies. So.. how would I identify what I can do in pvt that these other bitches aint doin for free? Slit my fucking wrists?
    Obviously, they don't have to pay for porn. So tell me... which of your customers has been dedicated to you for longer than 1 year? There is a difference between having to pay for porn, and paying for porn with an interaction. The interaction is the selling point. But very few women seem to grasp this in it's entirety.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    Porn companies made the money, not the models.

    Social networks let us the models build a brand, a name, direct traffic to our cam shows. Never has there been a time where we as individual models can make money without a studiohead deciding who is hot and gets work or who the fans want to seel.

    If girls dont like the contracts they signed then dont sign it. Plain and simple.

    If you want a company to change a contract for you to give you a higher percentage then become a power player. Become their top money making model then ask for a better contract. A model with 100,000 to a million friends on whatever social network is a major traffic player these days. She can also ask for a higher percentage of the cut.

    Cam companies want models who work hard, who have a strong base of customers THEY BRING IN THEMSELVES.

    If you don't like the way the game is played then find a way to get what you want. I have done that many of times. Used my traffic, the name I built to get what I want out of porn companies and cam companies.

    I signed my SM contract the way it is because I thought it was fair to me and them. I will gladly take the extra 40% for guys I bring in and the 20% they spend on other models all day long.

    Before only affiliates got that kind of cut, now we as models can to with SM.

    There are many new start up that will give you a huge percentage to sign up. But you will have to suffer & work until they get traffic going.

    I do abide by the rules and I make money. So it can be done legitly.

    Smooches,
    Sam
    Don't sign the contract. It is that easy. Well... when you watch these trainwrecks of celebrities and musicians.. remember... they signed that contract. The contract of hell. Contract of control. Now they are not only expected to be an artist.. but they are also expected to be a product.. and a damn good salesman, and if they aren't.. then they disappear. Sometimes, we are only artists.


    So, we need to become 'power players'. Which means.. we have to work our asses off for virtually nothing until we get enough recognition as a 'power player' and then we can finally get that extra 5% of income? Null.

    Cam companies (like any other government entity) want cam girls who are willing to work hard as hell, for just enough money to keep them coming back, so the real money can be made by the *owner*.. owner. You don't own you. They own you. They own you. Regardless of how smart, sexy, and educated you are. You are fucking owned.

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    EVERYONE could make money if NOBODY was giving it away for free.. and those who are making 'bank' in free.. could make MORE bank in PRIVATE. So, while you are sitting there making 200 tokens to see your tits.. another model is doing it for 50 tokens! Who's winning there? Only the customer.

    I've watched MFC and have literally felt sick. Women fucking themselves with foreign objects, pissing, and generally degrading themselves for pennies. So.. how would I identify what I can do in pvt that these other bitches aint doin for free? Slit my fucking wrists?


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    GOOD GOD PEOPLE! THE SHOWS ARE NOT FREE!

    They are public shows that are FAR more lucrative than privates. Do some people get to watch for free? Sure! But I'd much rather makes $250 for a 10 minute show than to make $50.

    I understand that not every girl's morals allow her to do such a thing, and I truly get that--but don't hate on the handful that do and bank big time doing so!

    In all seriousness, if you don't like the MFC format, and the public shows that go with it, there are a ton of other sites to cam on. I would HATE to see MFC be the same as every other cam site that bore the hell out of me.

    MFC is changing the industry, and more and more cam sites are gonna follow the same doctrine soon. Go with the flow or go against it, it's still gonna happen.

    Most importantly, NO ONE is making any girl do anything. It's each cam girls' prerogative what she does or doesn't do on cam. It's socialistic behavior to try and force a girl to follow what you may believe. To each their own... let girls decide for THEMSELVES what they want to do. Don't try and dictate your personal beliefs on me or any other cam girl.

    This whole topic is sounding a lot less about "justice" and "virtue" and much more about jealousy and envy. Really, I'm shocked that a group of girls in a very liberal profession that we are in would have the chutzpah to turn around and take such a right wing stance.

    It's gotta be about personal gain, because since zero laws are being broken, there is no other reason to complain about it other than jealousy and envious intentions.
    I'm guessing you weren't in the game years ago when $250 for 10 min show was very easy to come by. That's the problem right there. You don't know where you're going until you know your HISTORY.


    ADD: "MFC is changing the industry, and more and more cam sites are gonna follow the same doctrine soon. Go with the flow or go against it, it's still gonna happen."
    Statements like this scare the FUCK out of me. Go with the flow of your government/employer or go against it... it will still happen. Holy fucking shit. No... it doesn't have to be like that. IT DOESN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ... go with the flow of having things taken from you, having computer chips put in your arm, north American union, inflation... shit.. it's gonna happen anyway. Why fight against it?

    Because you're being raped, and you don't even know it. Just adapt. No thanks.. I feel the same way as Bambalina.. you can't sit the fuck around while hell breaks loose. You have to fight for things. Things aren't just handed to you on a silver fucking platter.
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    [quote=Bambalina;2167796]Depends on the numbers...the petition is all about making noise Minnie, MFC will listen if the NOISE level gets too high...

    What NEEDS to happen is that ONE mother needs to complain to the State's Attorney for their state and for that to become an issue. ONE Child who watched a girl fuck herself with a Zucchini with NO disclaimer or anything....and the free shows end FOREVER...

    One brave woman willing to make a call to the State's Attorney's office....the police...the local news...etc. The same can be done for SM and the pop-ups with VaginaCam....

    Make it so ALL the camsites have nothing too sexual without pay. You fix the entire cam industry.

    MUCH better than a petition.

    But that's all we got right now....So we'll do the best we can...

    B[/quote

    I SIGNED! AND IF THEY DONT LISTEN WE SHOULD JUST COMPLAIN TO THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE! I AGREE 100% IM TIRED OF COMPETING WITH A FUCK MACHINE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlankStare View Post
    ADD: "MFC is changing the industry, and more and more cam sites are gonna follow the same doctrine soon. Go with the flow or go against it, it's still gonna happen."
    Statements like this scare the FUCK out of me. Go with the flow of your government/employer or go against it... it will still happen. Holy fucking shit. No... it doesn't have to be like that. IT DOESN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ... go with the flow of having things taken from you, having computer chips put in your arm, north American union, inflation... shit.. it's gonna happen anyway. Why fight against it?

    Because you're being raped, and you don't even know it. Just adapt. No thanks.. I feel the same way as Bambalina.. you can't sit the fuck around while hell breaks loose. You have to fight for things. Things aren't just handed to you on a silver fucking platter.
    I still make that much for a 10 minute show! That's my point! I'm not saying sit around and take it, I'm saying that this is the future of cam sites. If you want to fight it by creating a new cam site that only allows privates, DO IT! YOU HAVE MY BLESSING!

    But if you are gonna threaten legal action and exposure of sites that allow things YOU don't like (things that are NOT ILLEGAL) then I will NEVER support someone who does such a thing. That's socialism! I'm a free market girl and I believe in freedom of speech and expression.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambalina View Post
    Depends on the numbers...the petition is all about making noise Minnie, MFC will listen if the NOISE level gets too high...

    What NEEDS to happen is that ONE mother needs to complain to the State's Attorney for their state and for that to become an issue. ONE Child who watched a girl fuck herself with a Zucchini with NO disclaimer or anything....and the free shows end FOREVER...

    One brave woman willing to make a call to the State's Attorney's office....the police...the local news...etc. The same can be done for SM and the pop-ups with VaginaCam....

    Make it so ALL the camsites have nothing too sexual without pay. You fix the entire cam industry.

    MUCH better than a petition.

    But that's all we got right now....So we'll do the best we can...

    B[/quote

    I SIGNED! AND IF THEY DONT LISTEN WE SHOULD JUST COMPLAIN TO THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE! I AGREE 100% IM TIRED OF COMPETING WITH A FUCK MACHINE!
    Parents who don't want their kids to see explicit acts online need to spend the damn $30 for the software that will block all XXX materials from their childrens' eyesight.

    If some parent is too damn cheap to spend $30 to protect their children or monitor their childrens' internet usage, it's THEY who need to be prosecuted for neglect! That's the truth! Parents, like so many other people in modern society, REFUSE to take responsibility for their own actions, or lack-there-of.

    Spin it left, spin it right--the truth remains the same. Parents need to get their heads out of their asses and stop letting the internet and television babysit their kids because their too damn cheap and lazy to take simple precautions to protect the ones they love. It's a cop out, and it's bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlankStare View Post
    I've watched MFC and have literally felt sick. Women fucking themselves with foreign objects, pissing, and generally degrading themselves for pennies. So.. how would I identify what I can do in pvt that these other bitches aint doin for free? Slit my fucking wrists? Obviously, they don't have to pay for porn. So tell me... which of your customers has been dedicated to you for longer than 1 year? There is a difference between having to pay for porn, and paying for porn with an interaction. The interaction is the selling point. But very few women seem to grasp this in it's entirety.
    I agree. But you know what? Some of the guys I've talked to have said the same thing, that it makes them sick and depressed when they see some of the extreme stuff for practically no payment.

    I think it's bad business to go that route, because once you start upping the ante, it isn't sustainable. When the novelty wears off, those guys get bored. Then you're stuck with a reputation as the camgirl who does crazy shit except your crazy shit isn't working anymore. You might be able to think of even crazier shit, but that only buys you a little more time.

    I don't think you need to compete with that, because I don't think it's all about the sex acts. I think it's about the camgirl, her personality or energy or kink skills, or whatever.

    And the guys I've seen longer than a year are definitely all about the interaction, so I totally agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niko-n-Justine View Post
    well, its actually not illegal to do public shows. there are tens of thousands of XXX sites that have no verification and they are still up and running... and have been for many many years.

    if a cam girl wants to protect herself, all she needs to do is not do public shows. it's that simple.

    all that is required right now via legislation is that xxx sites keep their records in order that all models are above the legal age... it's the parents' responsibility to enforce their childrens' internet habits. that't the official stance of the federal government at this time, so no cam girl should fear.

    long story short, cam girls have no more liability than MFC or any other site does. you can fuck yourself silly in public show if thats you prerogative and it's not in the least bit illegal at the current time.

    might that change in the future? possibly. but right now, other than moral or ethical grounds, there is nothing in the least bit wrong with it if that's how you hustle.
    hMMMM..I CAN FUCK MYSELF IN FREE CHAT HOPING TO GET TIPS AND...OR I CAN TRY TO HAVE IT WERE I CAN SIT AND LOOK PRETTY UNTIL I MAKE SURE I GET PAID!! SOME OF US WORKED IN STRIP CLUBS WOULD YOU GIVE OUT FREE LAPS DANCES BECAUSE 3 OUT OF
    30 MEN PAID FOR THEYRE OWN?ARE YOU REALLY TRYING TO ARGUE ABOUT THIS? WHY IN GODS NAME WOULD YOU WANT ANYONE SEE YOU FOR FREE?! AND WORSE MORE PONTENCIAL THAN YOU ALREADY HAVE TO BE RECOREDED! DONT YOU SEE ITS GIRLS THAT SAY "ITS JUST A HUSTLE" ARE MAKING CAMMING TURN TO SHIT!? SEROUSLY BABY JUST GO DO PORN AND STAY OUT OF THIS CONVO

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    Have you ladies noticed the only girls that have a problem with this are girls that are doing free shows?

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    [quote=Niko-n-Justine;2168255]I still make that much for a 10 minute show! That's my point! I'm not saying sit around and take it, I'm saying that this is the future of cam sites. If you want to fight it by creating a new cam site that only allows privates, DO IT! YOU HAVE MY BLESSING!

    But if you are gonna threaten legal action and exposure of sites that allow things YOU don't like (things that are NOT ILLEGAL) then I will NEVER support someone who does such a thing. That's socialism! I'm a free market girl and I believe in freedom of speech and expression.


    Quote Originally Posted by Marleysade View Post

    Parents who don't want their kids to see explicit acts online need to spend the damn $30 for the software that will block all XXX materials from their childrens' eyesight.

    If some parent is too damn cheap to spend $30 to protect their children or monitor their childrens' internet usage, it's THEY who need to be prosecuted for neglect! That's the truth! Parents, like so many other people in modern society, REFUSE to take responsibility for their own actions, or lack-there-of.

    Spin it left, spin it right--the truth remains the same. Parents need to get their heads out of their asses and stop letting the internet and television babysit their kids because their too damn cheap and lazy to take simple precautions to protect the ones they love. It's a cop out, and it's bullshit.
    OMG YOU JUST DONT GET IT! WE TRYING TO MAKE MFC FOLLOW THEYRE OWN RULES!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marleysade View Post
    Have you ladies noticed the only girls that have a problem with this are girls that are doing free shows?
    Sam said that she doesn't do public shows. I don't do public shows.

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    And you have a problem making mfc follow theyre rules?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marleysade View Post
    Have you ladies noticed the only girls that have a problem with this are girls that are doing free shows?
    Excuse me, I DON'T do free shows, so don't make blatant judgement calls when you don't know a damn thing about me. Ya heard?

    What I am is a girl who believes in free will, freedom of expression and freedom of speech. And someone--ANYONE--telling me how I or anyone else should make money within the legal limits of the law is gonna get my 2 cents. Whether or not I make my money in public or private is my own damn business, and you best believe anyone stepping up and telling me how I'm gonna make that money is gonna have me push back twice as hard as I am pushed.

    This argument is no different than the anal shows... I DON'T DO THEM. And damn it, I lose customers because of it. It is what it is. But I don't bitch that there are girls banking doing their thing. I bank my own way doing my thing, because I ain't sitting around sulking about what I'm not willing to do and what others are willing to do... I ain't jealous, envious or mad at the girls who shove objects up their asses. That's their game, I respect it... and I sure as hell would never try and stop them! That's for damn sure.

    Oh yeah, and have you noticed that the only girls who are complaining DON'T do the so-called "free shows"? Two-way street sister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marleysade View Post
    And you have a problem making mfc follow theyre rules?
    I don't have a problem with people who choose to do public shows. If anything, I'm impressed they've found a way to work it to their advantage. The tipping model offers unlimited earning potential if you can pull it off.

    I do things my way. They do things their way.

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