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    Duh A nasty dirty Whore House....with a nice alley to get free pussy.

    Let's just face it .
    Leo's a Slum Lord!!!!!
    and MFC is the Slum!

    1. Too cheap to hire mods.
    2. Too cheap to hire programmers.
    3. Too cheap to buy better servers.
    4. Too cheap to alter the site.


    We need to realize what we are doing.

    These guys are like Yea! finally, what WE want .

    A nasty dirty Whore House....with a nice alley to get free pussy.

    Dont Believe me ? Visit the Lounge!
    I feel like im in the French Revolution!!!!!! "Sooooo Many heads sooooo little time!!"


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    Leo can slum all over my face, so long as I can continue to bank the kind of $$ I do now with MFC. Maybe that makes me a nasty, dirty whore but a girl has gotta put food on the table some how.

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    Exactly, As long as you get paid , then why should it matter?
    You do it for a reason , For the money , Your going to get looked at
    like a piece of meat, and there will be consequences, But its for a cause , and
    as long as they pay you (you DO get 50% here which IS the top percentile around)
    especially for a site of its caliber.


    Why should it matter.


    The best thing MFC haters can do to piss the site off is not even log on,
    but day after day the same models that say they hate the site are trying
    to hustle on there, When theres plenty of other sites around. (I see them).

    Why would girls say they hate the site, Then make it money?
    (not you in general , I have a few in mind as i type this)
    Americanmade18 on most sites.

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    A lot of girls can't stand MFC, but I LOVE the site. When I FIRST started on there, I didn't know what the hell I was doing.




    I just wanted to say that the other day when I was in Agent_99's room under my premium account, a BASIC pm-ed me, asking me what my public chat is like. When I told him I don't use toys in public chat, he posted a sad emote and said "But I like to be spoiled!" *rolls eyes*

    If you wanna see me fucking a dildo, spend the $19.99 once to upgrade to premium, and then take me to group or private. If you're too cheap to do that, I don't wanna hear any "But I wanna see you use a toy!" whining.
    My birthday is August 15th!!!

    http://www.twitter.com/yummybrownfox Formerly TheBrownFox. SW won't let me access the forums under my old name, so I had to make a new account.

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    Hey I dont hate it .....
    Kinda glad its there! lol......
    I plan on making a comeback after the summer break!.
    I was just making an Analogy .
    So people might realize , and maybe understand.
    I feel like im in the French Revolution!!!!!! "Sooooo Many heads sooooo little time!!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by MzStar View Post
    Hey I dont hate it .....
    Kinda glad its there! lol......
    I plan on making a comeback after the summer break!.
    I was just making an Analogy .
    So people might realize , and maybe understand.
    If i was Leo I wouldn't let you come back. How are you gonna make such defamatory statements then say well i'm planning on making a come back there? lol
    See I don't even really do public toy shows, but do get nude and play around in public but still i didn't sign that petition because that'd make me a hypocrite. If you guys hate MFC so much,like buffy said...then why do you guys keep making them money. Why would you work for someone who you believe is a slum lord and operates their website as if it was a dirty whorehouse with alleys to free pussy? What's that say about you? Even worse, you're the ones that are ruining the industry because you dont like what you do, or a certain site, so you don't make money, so you resort to giving it away. This isnt all targeted at you, more of a generalization of everything that's going on now.

    If i'm on mfc and im not making money (which doesnt happen too often), i log off. I don't sit there and start compromising my boundaries one by one only to still not make money and get pissed and blame the top girls because you just shoved a dildo in your pussy and didn't make shit. If you're not making money on MFC it's your fault. I mean the industry is the way it is, and it sucks, but the odds of the change that you're looking for looks pretty slim. The people in MFC don't make all their money just because of dildo shows. Watch the top girls, most of the time they get tipped when they're talking and fully clothed. So it's not these girls, all though they may play a lil factor, but you can't blame them if it's starting to be the norm there. MFC took me a long time to figure out but I worked so hard at it and 6 months later i'm making money i could have never dreamed of. I didn't build my fan base because I did all these crazy shows, I built them by months of talking, and just cultivating regulars. Lately a lot of times I don't even do any show and just talk, and my earnings haven't decreased noticeably. Have i done public cum shows with toys? Yeah i have, not on a daily basis, but shit if someone comes in my room and dropped 4000 tokens just like that to see me cum... sorry, call me a money hungry whore... but that tip most likely put me in a great mood so i have no problem showing my gratitude. 200 dollars made in 1 minute plus other tips on top of that from others...Come on.... i know the majority of you would do one dildo show in public for 10 minutes if it meant getting 200-400 dollars. Don't say i'm lying, i've seen a lot of you...the ones who are complaining about mfc the most, do it for a lot less.

    Lately this board just sucks to come to, especially if you work on MFC, and are successful on there. I feel like you guys are all hating on people who do well there and are blaming us. Take some of the blame yourself, maybe your hustle just aint all that. I'm all for you guys trying to make changes, the petition, the girl power week thing..coool...Ill do my best to participate, but this excessive bashing, without even a point to it or a solution is just not helping anything.

    If you don't like it, don't work there... more money for me
    And before someone comes in here and cherry picks every single detail to argue on why mfc is the bane of all existence, don't bother... i dont give a shit
    sorry for the hostility, i just miss stripperweb. this has turned into mfc and eachother bashing

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    @xfatrabbit.. I understand what your saying and I appreciate your input, but dont let it get to your head... once more NEW, prettier, Younger, willing to do even more.. models join the site... You and your public shows will be forgotten... and on to the next one...
    and then you will see that the best way to make $$, IN LONG TERM is to do it right.. and make them pay for it...
    does anyone EVEN do the math on group shows?!!? you sounds like your a first 1-5 row model... so u prolly have over 300 guys in your room at all times.. out of which 100 CAN pay...
    Get 100 people in a GROUP show for 10 min... you are getting 50 cents/person/minute...
    you can make$50/minute... times 10 min of cum show in GROUP..... that is $500 in 10 minutes!!
    You think they want to support you that much? Awesome.. get them used to going group!!

    3 shows a day of 10 min each = $1500 a day !

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    yep... thats what i do... public to get nude, then group for toys...
    I understand what you're saying and i agree. Some of the girls who were on top before are no half way down the list, and a lot of the top girls aren't doing as well. I've watched them and I do feel bad because they're doing so many hardcore things with so many people viewing and only a few tipping. But i think their stock will go down, that's just the way it is. You can only wtch someone cum so many times before getting bored. but i like i said, my "Act" isn't all about public shows, i spend a lot of time building a fanbase, one that just doesn't come from MFC. Im just saying, do what you gotta do, i support and thank what you guys are trying to do. The hypocrites just make me laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by xfatrabbitx View Post
    If i was Leo I wouldn't let you come back. How are you gonna make such defamatory statements then say well i'm planning on making a come back there? lol
    See I don't even really do public toy shows, but do get nude and play around in public but still i didn't sign that petition because that'd make me a hypocrite. If you guys hate MFC so much,like buffy said...then why do you guys keep making them money. Why would you work for someone who you believe is a slum lord and operates their website as if it was a dirty whorehouse with alleys to free pussy? What's that say about you? Even worse, you're the ones that are ruining the industry because you dont like what you do, or a certain site, so you don't make money, so you resort to giving it away. This isnt all targeted at you, more of a generalization of everything that's going on now.

    If i'm on mfc and im not making money (which doesnt happen too often), i log off. I don't sit there and start compromising my boundaries one by one only to still not make money and get pissed and blame the top girls because you just shoved a dildo in your pussy and didn't make shit. If you're not making money on MFC it's your fault. I mean the industry is the way it is, and it sucks, but the odds of the change that you're looking for looks pretty slim. The people in MFC don't make all their money just because of dildo shows. Watch the top girls, most of the time they get tipped when they're talking and fully clothed. So it's not these girls, all though they may play a lil factor, but you can't blame them if it's starting to be the norm there. MFC took me a long time to figure out but I worked so hard at it and 6 months later i'm making money i could have never dreamed of. I didn't build my fan base because I did all these crazy shows, I built them by months of talking, and just cultivating regulars. Lately a lot of times I don't even do any show and just talk, and my earnings haven't decreased noticeably. Have i done public cum shows with toys? Yeah i have, not on a daily basis, but shit if someone comes in my room and dropped 4000 tokens just like that to see me cum... sorry, call me a money hungry whore... but that tip most likely put me in a great mood so i have no problem showing my gratitude. 200 dollars made in 1 minute plus other tips on top of that from others...Come on.... i know the majority of you would do one dildo show in public for 10 minutes if it meant getting 200-400 dollars. Don't say i'm lying, i've seen a lot of you...the ones who are complaining about mfc the most, do it for a lot less.

    Lately this board just sucks to come to, especially if you work on MFC, and are successful on there. I feel like you guys are all hating on people who do well there and are blaming us. Take some of the blame yourself, maybe your hustle just aint all that. I'm all for you guys trying to make changes, the petition, the girl power week thing..coool...Ill do my best to participate, but this excessive bashing, without even a point to it or a solution is just not helping anything.

    If you don't like it, don't work there... more money for me
    And before someone comes in here and cherry picks every single detail to argue on why mfc is the bane of all existence, don't bother... i dont give a shit
    sorry for the hostility, i just miss stripperweb. this has turned into mfc and eachother bashing


    Holy Shit...i could not have said it any better!! I flippn LOVE LOVE MFC!! Now i had a shitty night the other night and was nearly in tears over it..but it didn't make me like MFC any less...and it damn sure doesn't make me hate the TOP TOP girls on there. If anything it makes me want to work even harder bc i know damn well i can be there if i work at it. And so can some of u other girls that are bitching about it. Im a normal girl and made $4000 and some change in TWO nights..(a few months ago) Money is sitting at ur fingertips on that site.

    And on the whole "girls shouldn't do public cum shows" talk..um if they wana do it then by God let THEM do it. It ain't hurting ur money..be urself and chit chat w/ the guys like ur at a flippn bar chilln w/ them or something..they will begin to "like" u as a person and not just as a pussy. That's when u make the big bucks. Just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xfatrabbitx View Post
    If i was Leo I wouldn't let you come back. How are you gonna make such defamatory statements then say well i'm planning on making a come back there? lol
    ARE you MFC!!!!???? Thats retarded to even think like that.
    Maybe you dont understand and are MFC brain washed....
    Why are you girls taking MFC bashing to heart ....YOUR NOT MFC!!!
    Wake-up
    a site deserves no Loyalty because they dont have any for you!!!!!

    In truth I like the 50%.....but i dont want to drag my GOOD traffic there just to have them turned into freeloaders!!!!

    FACT!

    Thats why i'd rather send them to other sites....where i dont have to worry about someone showing them the freeloader way.

    JESUS!
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    OH and another thing!!!! its not the top girls im worried about .....
    Its the low and cheap ones that stay naked 24/7 all in their ass digging the shit out for 20 tokens or nothing at all.

    YA'll LOVE TO PUT WORDS IN MOUTHS

    my kids do that ....smh


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    The path most traveled will get tons litter on the side. I rarely get on MFC because of this, not my type site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MzStar View Post
    OH and another thing!!!! its not the top girls im worried about .....
    Its the low and cheap ones that stay naked 24/7 all in their ass digging the shit out for 20 tokens or nothing at all.

    YA'll LOVE TO PUT WORDS IN MOUTHS

    my kids do that ....smh


    NOOBS

    LMAO plz go make more than $2000 in just a few hrs w/out having to fuck someone. THEN u can call me a noob. Quit bitching about MFC...if u like it stay, if not grow the hell up and move to another site. It's JUST THAT SIMPLE hun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaebabii View Post
    LMAO plz go make more than $2000 in just a few hrs w/out having to fuck someone. THEN u can call me a noob. Quit bitching about MFC...if u like it stay, if not grow the hell up and move to another site. It's JUST THAT SIMPLE hun.
    silly lil girl I DO!!!! and I've watched 6 sites go hard then DIE......only NOOBs ride a sites jockstrap .....why when someone says MFC do you put your name in its place....you dont own that site.....and it doesnt care about you.....

    seriously a real cam girl knows how to do many sites all at the sametime and not let one control all of her income!

    GROW-up on that
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    What a startling good argument MzStar. I had no idea I wasn't a real cam girl, but thank you for enlightening me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilynne View Post
    What a startling good argument MzStar. I had no idea I wasn't a real cam girl, but thank you for enlightening me.
    lol dont answer for someone else ....your name wasn't in this
    But seriously tho .....look at the almost Cult like attacks
    say MFC and the picketers come running.....

    In my experience .....you have to realize this is a business...NOT a cult
    this is the internet ....sites start ,grow,then die. At different rates....
    Being a Die hard believe only sets you up for disaster ...

    I speak from experience ....i did that years ago on other sites ...now people are like what site....like it never exsisted. Thats what i'm saying .

    Don't depend on a site.....they all Die.!

    Adult work used to be super great for money now its a shadow
    Niteflirt
    imlive
    ifriends
    rude
    yahoo
    same thing...... before that PSO's

    Now a real cam girl thinks kinda like this ......
    I found a nice "whale" on ***.com
    we'll he's all mine
    maybe i should make 100%

    then she is like
    My own site.....I wont have the traffic but i can use all the other sites at me disposal to gain only GOOD traffic
    Meaning i dont have to waste time with the bad traffic......

    otherwise your just a slave to the site you work for.....and when it is hurting , your starving......

    Dont go trying to kill me because i say it ....I know the truth hurts but damn .....such a knee jerk reaction tells it all......personally i laugh at all this shit....really its all fun and jokes to me ......

    I mean damn guys disrepect you in the chat rooms (yours or other) let that shit roll off your back but i talk about MFC and you cant take it ......

    LMAO plastic! and classic!
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    Play nice ladies or this will be the first thread I will have to close as a mod

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiarose View Post
    Play nice ladies or this will be the first thread I will have to close as a mod
    Im trying ...
    I feel like im in the French Revolution!!!!!! "Sooooo Many heads sooooo little time!!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by MzStar View Post
    ARE you MFC!!!!???? Thats retarded to even think like that.
    Maybe you dont understand and are MFC brain washed....
    Why are you girls taking MFC bashing to heart ....YOUR NOT MFC!!!
    Wake-up
    a site deserves no Loyalty because they dont have any for you!!!!!

    In truth I like the 50%.....but i dont want to drag my GOOD traffic there just to have them turned into freeloaders!!!!

    FACT!

    Thats why i'd rather send them to other sites....where i dont have to worry about someone showing them the freeloader way.

    JESUS!
    ? what?
    No I'm not Leo. I'm "retarded" (which is highly offensive in itself) because I question why one makes such bold, defamatory statements about a company then still works for them? Why is that "retarded"? I don't get it, maybe you misunderstood me. Whether it's MFC or Mcdonalds or whatever the fuck ever, why would you so vehemently bash a company then plan to work for them? I'm not taking anything to heart if you don't like MFC, you could have replaced MFC with some other company and i still woulda said the same thing. if I hate a company and feel the way you do about mfc (slumlord, whorehouse, etcetc), I don't associate with them because i'm not fake and stick to my guns and morals no matter what the price is.

    I'm not a "noob" Ive been on this forum for a while and camming for a while also. And I'm not putting words in your mouth so you don't need to compare me to your children. I just didn't see the point of the post but just crazy bashing which ended up being moot because you said you're staging a comeback and don't hate mfc. Don't understand the OT i guess, you were bored and wanted to follow along the trend of mfc bashing on here? At least the other threads are productive and talking about change as well as good debates. This is just like, a tweet or something with big bold letters. I don't mean to hijack your thread or offend you but I just wanted to speak up about the matter because I work in this "dirty nasty whorehouse with an alley to free pussy". I'm not sticking up for them, I'm saying maybe you should redirect your anger into being a better camgirl or working on a different site.

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    analogy (əˈnælədʒɪ)

    — n , pl -gies
    1. agreement or similarity, esp in a certain limited number of features or details
    2. a comparison made to show such a similarity: to draw an analogy between an atom and the solar system

    Googled that ........Unions hate walmart but shop there everyday

    Hell Teamsters are the largest haters of Walmart ....but not only do they shop there .....they drive all the Big Rigs for the entire chain! lmao
    So what are you talking about ?
    I deserve your attacks because I want to better MFC ..... make it more classy less Trashy???

    Are you serious?!

    I'm in America and if i want to talk bad about mother Teresa I CAN....
    thats a porn site ..... give me a break

    That analogy really wasnt that far off.
    And I said time and time again i work on any and every site

    Facts are a webcam girl, model,adult this or that
    will never become many things.....
    because of the recording and many other things......these are facts....
    it affects many

    They consider us whores period point blank
    and while you and I are typing this pointless back and forth i have made my goal and off cam for the day!
    Now how do i need to be a the better cam girl?

    Really read the post and the posts under it ......dont scan it take your time and read
    Seriously this post was to make people think about the BIG picture!
    and if you cant figure it out .....then here it is

    Lets stop degrading ourselves and put a lil class into MFC b4 it degrades down to nothing .....I dont think its too late yet...... But maybe I'm wrong . You guys are fighting this tooth and nail.... And if your not Degrading yourself why respond......But i forgot you'll just skim and comeback at my throat.
    I feel like im in the French Revolution!!!!!! "Sooooo Many heads sooooo little time!!"


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    okay class lets thank mzstar for thanking of an analogy and posting it up for us!

    why are u assuming im not reading what you're saying, i read very well.
    No ones attacking you, you posted a topic on a public forum and people responded respectfully and you started calling people "noobs" and comparing us to children. You're the one that brought up who's a real cam girl and who's not and now you're getting upset because i'm suggest you be a better one. Okay, I made an assumption, like you... but at least my assumptions are based off the fact that you're complaining so must not be doing well. Your assumptions that we're not "real" camgirls came from the fact that you have to work buncha sites, seen buncha sites go down blah blah...
    I'm happy you made your goal today, i did too... very good day for me =) and i didn't degrade myself once! I'm not going to respond anymore because your reality is distorted and you're suffering from victim syndrome and thinking we're all attacking you when you started with the immature forum hostility first. I think your posts and responses speak for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xfatrabbitx View Post
    yep... thats what i do... public to get nude, then group for toys...

    Love this! THIS is what all the MFC girls should be doing! I'm not sure why some girls don't like to do the pvt shows, as it seems like *that* would be where the real money is made- perhaps I am wrong. Either way, I still don't agree with there being PUBLIC masturbation shows... oil shows, naked, tits and ass.. cool.. I'm all for that.. but not the masturbation and other fun stuff

    I want all the girls to make money! I want the girls that deserve to make the big bucks (the good talkers, the true entertainers) to make big bucks! I don't want that to stop AT ALL. But, I would like for all the girls to respect themselves enough to just take the hardcore stuff into pvt.

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    i swear if i see one more thread bout MFC imma poke myself in the eye wit a fork. love it hate it y do we have to have a dozen threads bout one topic.MFC this MFC tht,this is all people talk bout.most of u have bn on MFC 4 a while now m sure of this, humour me!!these public shows, did they start last week?if people decide to make their money shovin bottles up their ass i really dnt care it works 4 them let them.can we move on.i thot this was all bout helpin each other.i swear comin here has become so depressin cuz people seem to wana talk bout one thing only n thts MFC.u really dnt have to start new threads 4 this use the existin ones watever pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ebonyqueen View Post
    i swear if i see one more post bout MFC imma poke myself in the eye wit a fork. love it hate it y do we have to have a dozen threads bout one topic.MFC this MFC tht,this is all people talk bout.most of u have bn on MFC 4 a while now m sure of this, humour me!!these public shows, did they start last week?if people decide to make their money shovin bottles up their ass i really dnt care it works 4 them let them.can we move on.i thot this was all bout helpin each other.i swear comin here has become so depressin cuz people seem to wana talk bout one thing only n thts MFC.u really dnt have to start new threads 4 this use the existin ones watever pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese.
    I agree the threads on the MFC debate are getting too high in numbers. However, the shows did not start last week... obviously. We are just noticing the severe drop in pay and the sky rocketing rate of beggars expecting to be treated like kings. Wrong wrong wrong... all around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlankStare View Post
    I'm not sure why some girls don't like to do the pvt shows, as it seems like *that* would be where the real money is made- perhaps I am wrong. Either way, I still don't agree with there being PUBLIC masturbation shows... oil shows, naked, tits and ass.. cool.. I'm all for that.. but not the masturbation and other fun stuff

    I want all the girls to make money! I want the girls that deserve to make the big bucks (the good talkers, the true entertainers) to make big bucks! I don't want that to stop AT ALL. But, I would like for all the girls to respect themselves enough to just take the hardcore stuff into pvt.

    Dammit, you just reminded me that I used up all my oil on MFC today, and I need to get more.

    And I agree. Public chat is a good place to get the guys riled up/horny enough to wanna take you private (or group). The tokens accumulate pretty quickly during a private show.
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