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    Quote Originally Posted by roast
    my problem is that this is B's cycle and Ive seen so many get so swept up by its fervor then crash when it goes no where.... and it bothers me.
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    the repeatedly changing deadlines that expire, the comments about things happening any minute not ever happening, her suddenly not having internet access for a month (as a website owner whose business is supposedly all online? seriously?),
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    However, for those who are holding out on Bambalina's long rants having any substance beyond furious typing: don't.
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    I was initially irritated when camgirls questioned B's history and commitment (Supabyoch was probably the first, then several others) but then was flabbergasted by a lack of followthrough, erratic emotional outburst, discovered she's not a cam model & never has been
    Ok, for all the detractors of Bambalina, who like to go on and on about how I am slow and take forever to open my site, let me say this...you're ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!

    I have taken fucking FOREVER to get this thing going and it still isn't quite done.

    Damn me! Fucking procrastination and perfectionist bullshit.

    I'm an asshole...

    But I'm an asshole with severe fibromyalgia and suffer from sleep disorder and chronic pain.

    I have a 4 year old son I care for and love more than anything.

    I live on the road in a 5th wheel RV, and I move a LOT.

    I got slammed earlier this year and my truck was destroyed by drunk bitch doing 55 miles an hour into a red lighted intersection. Got fucked over by her insurance for over 7 weeks and almost got stiffed for my truck.

    My best friend in the whole world died this year.

    I had to help with healthcare costs of a family member in an emergency that WIPED ME THE FUCK OUT.

    SO, I'm crying now roast. You succeeded. You hurt me really fucking bad and made me recount why I am such an unqualified unreliable fucking LOSER this year.

    There is no excuse...I get it...No promise should ever be broken, and my word is my bond. (just like those who sign the contract for MFC, huh?). So it doesn't matter that this was one of the worst years in my life, I should have finished that camsite!

    I have said I am not the best communicator in the world, and I guess I can be erratic. In 1989 I had a car accident and severe concussion. It caused enough damage in my head that I lost the ability to do math for over 18 months, and had to re-learn it. I'm NOT good at multi-tasking anymore. I still have a high IQ, but things just work differently in there now. I try, and I fight for what I believe in, and I plod along and keep trying. I will have these websites, and I will help the collective get going, and someday I will have a bigbox style camsite of my own. I guess I shouldn't believe developers who say "Up and running in two weeks" and then I give it a month and they are still fucking around...

    Anyway, none of this is your problem...and I don't blame any of you if you don't want to work with me, and think I'm a flake...this year, I have been.

    I'm so sorry if I let you all down. I will do better this coming year I hope. And I hope some of you stick with me.

    Thank you, and again, I'm sorry,

    B

    ETA: Thank you all so much! I appreciate the kind words and really love y'all very much.
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    Default Re: Being Called out...Bambalina get slammed.

    I think you are an amazing, kindhearted, warm person. We all have our disagreements and lord knows we all probably procrastinate. Don't let it get to you. You DO have supporters.

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    Default Re: Being Called out...Bambalina get slammed.

    I'm sorry you have had a real rough year. *hugs*

    I have not been here long enough to comment on most of this, although I have read a lot on here about your website and am interested in it... but you have never been a cam girl before? Have you been a stripper? I'm trying to make a connection here, not trying to start issues or anything! Just curious since you sounded like in all the posts about your cam site that you were also a cam girl.

    Hope this doesn't come off wrong, just wanting to understand since I'm a newbie to the forum.

    *hugs*

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    Default Re: Being Called out...Bambalina get slammed.

    BAMBALINA!!! I can relate to so many things you are going through. You have a lot going in your life, yet you are STILL persistent. Persistence is the key!!

    Those obstacles are just bumps in the road leading to your goal... I am well experienced when it comes to building and growing businesses, and I for one am here with you!!!

    I PM'ed you before and have been away from home during the previous collective site chats... but I'm still in 100%!! Just give me the word and my schedule will be wrapped around yours!!

    Next year won't cut it.. We're going to do this thing!!! If a few girls can't swing the ropes and endure the struggles, WELL.. they have never started a business before. If they can't take the bad with the good, and many timed delays.. then, do we need them associated with the business????? I THINK NOT.

    It's better to weed out the whiny asses before things get started, then to have to deal with them later. Keep things going girl.. and who cares if they fall out. WHO CARES IF THEY COMPLAIN AND GO SCREAMING HOME TO THEIR MAMAS???

    Bambalina, I will go 50/50 with you 5,000/5,000 if you're ready let's go! If not,

    I feel that you and I both think alike, and with my business expertise and your wonderful ideas, we can pull something wonderful off!

    If you still wish to pursue with multiple investors.. PM ME BAMBALINA.. I have a solution

    In fact.. PM me and I will send you my Phone #. I would love to work with you to share some advice, and help you anyway that I can!
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    Default Re: Being Called out...Bambalina get slammed.

    i haven't said much in your posts but i've been following your camsite crusade for a while. i know how things can get put off or obstacles can pop up. especially if you're working with other people like developers who you have to rely on. & i'm probably the biggest procrastinator in the world. not to mention all the stuff that's happened to you this year. cut yourself some slack. i ain't mad at ya

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    People are just mean Bambam! you guided a lot of us newbies..More ways than you can count!! Your fans over power your haters!! We appreciate you! stay strong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    I'm sorry you have had a real rough year. *hugs*

    I have not been here long enough to comment on most of this, although I have read a lot on here about your website and am interested in it... but you have never been a cam girl before? Have you been a stripper? I'm trying to make a connection here, not trying to start issues or anything! Just curious since you sounded like in all the posts about your cam site that you were also a cam girl.

    Hope this doesn't come off wrong, just wanting to understand since I'm a newbie to the forum.

    *hugs*
    I was a camgirl on several sites on and off for years. So that stuff said about me was just pure lies from people who have absolutely no idea what I have and have not done. They just want to make their point even if they have to outright lie.

    I still cam for regulars and sugars and a few new guys who find me...But for the last couple years I have more exclusive put myself into Promotion mode. I have accounts as a manager on MFC, SM (which I try like hell to avoid), AW, and a few others, as well as MANY of the indy sites.

    So while the bad year is true, and my sites not being done yet is true, all the stuff about me being an outsider, or "not a cam girl", or someone who has never done the job, is just absolute garbage, pure slander and outright lies.

    In fact as a promoter I have doubled or tripled the incomes of over 50 cam-models, some of whom are quite successful.

    I have also been around and involved in this business as a performer or promoter for about 10 years.

    There ya go,

    B

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusty Laken View Post
    I for one am here with you!!!
    I so appreciate this, and from everyone who expressed it...

    Thanks you!

    This last few days were really hard, because I believe in something, and this site is normally so much about bringing your fellow woman UP and being supportive. And for me to have to face day after day of Roast and Nico-n-Justine, and Noa, all tearing into me like I am some sort of devil has been so painful and hard, because I can't argue like that, I just don't have that hurtful thing inside me. I'm an old hippy chick. I may be fiery when it comes to some sort of ideal, or protest or belief, and I may be persistent and tenacious when it comes to fighting for that, but I don;t know how to just pick someone apart and attack them again and again...and I can't understand why anyone would ever do such a thing to another person.

    I'm sorry I don't have it in me to fight the mean people and take that kind of abuse. I wish I did, and before my accident, I seriously KNOW I could have kicked ass.

    Next year won't cut it.. We're going to do this thing!!! If a few girls can't swing the ropes and endure the struggles, WELL.. they have never started a business before. If they can't take the bad with the good, and many timed delays.. then, do we need them associated with the business????? I THINK NOT.
    As far as the Collective site. I think we have an amazing group of women and I believe we can make it happen. We're close but we need to seriously hash it out, and make it happen. The devil is in the details and I need help with putting in writing what the Designers need. I need everyone to just pull together and lets get this thing to the designer.

    Bambalina, I will go 50/50 with you 5,000/5,000 if you're ready let's go! If not,
    Just help me make the Collective site come true and get started. I am getting quite close on my sites and if I run into any real snags, I will let my darling friends know.

    I feel that you and I both think alike, and with my business expertise and your wonderful ideas, we can pull something wonderful off!
    I agree, and on top of that, having met and chatted to several of the wonderful women on this board, I am overwhelmingly POSITIVE that the Collective site CANNOT fail. No matter what anyone says.

    If you still wish to pursue with multiple investors.. PM ME BAMBALINA.. I have a solution
    I wish to have a Collective with all the women who can look deep down and really BELIEVE enough to take a chance and give a bit of themselves to making a dream come true.

    In fact.. PM me and I will send you my Phone #. I would love to work with you to share some advice, and help you anyway that I can!
    You rock. Thank you.

    B

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambalina View Post
    I was a camgirl on several sites on and off for years. So that stuff said about me was just pure lies from people who have absolutely no idea what I have and have not done. They just want to make their point even if they have to outright lie.

    I still cam for regulars and sugars and a few new guys who find me...But for the last couple years I have more exclusive put myself into Promotion mode. I have accounts as a manager on MFC, SM (which I try like hell to avoid), AW, and a few others, as well as MANY of the indy sites.

    So while the bad year is true, and my sites not being done yet is true, all the stuff about me being an outsider, or "not a cam girl", or someone who has never done the job, is just absolute garbage, pure slander and outright lies.

    In fact as a promoter I have doubled or tripled the incomes of over 50 cam-models, some of whom are quite successful.

    I have also been around and involved in this business as a performer or promoter for about 10 years.

    There ya go,

    B
    Got cha! I thought it didn't sound right... thanks for clearing up the truth!

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    I believe in what you're doing Bambalina.

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    Default Re: Being Called out...Bambalina get slammed.

    You only started that thread a few months ago.....

    Rome wasn't built in a day. Jeesh.



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    :o( I'm so sorry about your friend and car accident. I have fibro too. Message me if you ever want to talk. *hug*
    I like naked chicks.

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    I refuse to feel guilt about my sexuality. I REFUSE to feel bad about my job.

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    For the record, there was confusion about my site, since when I posted this, the first post in the thread, the project was NOT mine, but belonged to others. Next week will be the one year anniversary of the hatching of the idea about an indy webcam site.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bambalina 8-8-2010
    I'm looking for ideas because I suggested it to a friend who can program, and there was a great deal of interest. So, how would YOU run a site? Or even better, as a camgirl, what would make the perfect site for you to advertise yourself and get shows on Yahoo/MSN/SKype and yet still offers a decent living for the person who runs the site? I really want to goose this person and see if I can get us a site written.

    So fantasize away on your perfect Indy Webcam Site.

    B
    The original thread has a LOT of really interesting stuff. For the un-initiated, Malaya, became Touring Girlfirend, and PussyPlayground became CamWhore. Niina might be camwhore too??? Not sure on that one...

    Anyway, it's a good read and kind of where the Collective was born as well, although it's in fetal mode in this thread.



    Funny, SalemSexy starts the trash talk on 9-22-10...Before the actual site was even being truly programmed. Interesting...

    Quote Originally Posted by SalemSexy
    The whole thing sounds to much like sales hype and a very easy way for some new site to come into the business and grab 50 models cash real fast and then disapear of the planet..
    Wild...I hadn't even started a site yet...and already I was accused of taking the money and running...it get MUCH worse from there...

    Anyway the first time I saw a mock-up of how the site might look when completed (from the ASSHOLE designer who screwed us), was 09-25-2010.

    Then on 12-17-10 the actual idea for the site gets wholly fleshed out, after several false starts...I had even thought it would be done by November but said it would almost surely be late...(behind the scenes this was about when it was becoming apparent that my partnership was not working, and the designer they hired was NOT going to complete this as we had hoped...)

    In the interim we lost the designer and we parted ways with two of the partners who had changed the whole thing (as usual for men with money) to be VERY unfair to models and completely REMOVE all the "Collective" aspects of the site...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bambalina 05-03-2011
    Well, I suck...

    See, I'm the kind of person, that as I go along my project gets bigger with time...I don;t want to open a site like other sites, so I keep adding bits and pieces to the idea until I have something big and wonderful and game changing and guaranteed to blow away the world, but now I gotta fund it, and I'm fucking DONE with male investors who stick their stupid noses into it and have NO CLUE about the tech, or even the real way the business COULD function.

    So, I suck, because the original "indy site" was MOSTLY done a litle late but close to on schedule...

    Then came the game changing ideas and the epiphany on the nature of camming, and presto chango, I'm working on a different site with a different, more expensive, but more proficient programmer.

    That is where I sit now...programmer awaits payment to do the next step, and I have had 2 or 3 big setbacks (one of which was the death of my best friend, whose spouse was severely in need) and I am horribly off schedule.

    But the most messed up part is that I truly think I have a game changing idea that needs to be done...it will alter camming in the ladies favor forever...I just need to raise the moolah...

    More updates as I figure this out...
    This was after I had many thousands of dollars wiped from my life (family health care) and a SHIT accident that destroyed my truck...

    and this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Bambalina 07-28-2011
    Been a while since I updated....

    I am getting a really nice profile generator done, and the person doing it will improve it as we figure out what is needed. Yay! But that is wat is holding up the panty site as well, since the panty site has MAJOR profiles, and so I want the profile generator to be portable between the two....

    We really are getting close now...Promise. I have almost a full month to make sure it all gets done too...Northern Florida is boring...
    And that's where it stands today....I await word daily on this crap, and hope to have a working site up within weeks.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------

    The Collective camsite is a different animal completely. That still needs to be written up and directed to a programmer. and That site relies on EVERYONE in the collective.

    B

    PS. Also, the site has become a Bambalina project...there are no partners involved with me except my hubby. My mentor in promoting has agreed to help with promo as a favor, but thinks this should be MY BABY. If you read the thread, you'll see that for me this is very new to own my OWN site of this type...

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    Default Re: Being Called out...Bambalina get slammed.

    i am really sorry you're having so many difficulties, and can relate a lot to what you're going through in your personal life.

    i'm on the fence about your project, which really isn't any of my business.

    BUT...i find it disconcerting that the amount of flak you've gotten here is really that damaging for you personally. no camming venture, no matter how on the up and up, can escape scathing criticism - hell, even some of the small ones who are already up and running get hella sarcasm and skepticism when they post here looking for new models. that doesn't even touch the kinds of shit people say about leo and mfc, or the lawsuits against them, or the way big forums like cgn have tried to go after them. if a few girls here criticizing you really bothers you that much...i would worry. because my guess is the more real your project gets the worse the criticism and heat will be. it will probably escalate rather than go away. please take care of yourself and your health.

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    WTFF?? Bambalina is our home girl!!! do not mess with her!
    "A real woman has to be a chef in the kitchen, a lady in the living room, and a whore in the bedroom..T-Lust"



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    Quote Originally Posted by tinydancer23 View Post
    i am really sorry you're having so many difficulties, and can relate a lot to what you're going through in your personal life.

    i'm on the fence about your project, which really isn't any of my business.

    BUT...i find it disconcerting that the amount of flak you've gotten here is really that damaging for you personally. no camming venture, no matter how on the up and up, can escape scathing criticism - hell, even some of the small ones who are already up and running get hella sarcasm and skepticism when they post here looking for new models. that doesn't even touch the kinds of shit people say about leo and mfc, or the lawsuits against them, or the way big forums like cgn have tried to go after them. if a few girls here criticizing you really bothers you that much...i would worry. because my guess is the more real your project gets the worse the criticism and heat will be. it will probably escalate rather than go away. please take care of yourself and your health.
    I agree. It isn't the camsite stuff that bothers me and hurts me so much. As you can see, I can be pretty honest in relating my world as far as that goes. Also, I am a person that if attacked on SUBSTANCE and FACTS, can argue with the best of them. If you are worried that I am thin skinned, please don't worry about that. I will be fine.

    I mean, in the MFC thing, tell me I'm wrong, and tell me WHY with facts and reality based statements, don't call me envious and jealous and dishonest and attack the Collective venture in thread that has nothing to do with that.

    What got to me was the straight up personal attacks and straight outright lies. Because I'm NOT Leo. I'm one of YOU. I've been here and posted great info about promotion and websites, I opened CGU for camgirls and haven't (had to) moderated or banned ANYONE for posting their opinions. I post ideas and I post protest, and I post fun stuff and I truly try to bring the cam models together in a way which can benefit us ALL including ME. So to then be torn down repeatedly, followed from thread to thread, and attacked incessantly (and this wasn't my WEBSITES, this was for an opinion about MFCs rules) and to not have moderation, or anything to stop the dramatic de-railing of discussions with obvious bullshit, gets a bit tiring.

    I'll work it out...but I needed a day to just "lose it" and get it back together.

    roast
    just decided that to hurt me and completely tear me down as a person and act as if I am the only person to ever delay opening a site is like I am the devil, was fine and acceptable behavior, in a thread that had NOTHING to do with those things. And it made me realize that Stripper Web is a Bitch Pit and like the Octagon in some Ultimate Fighting thing...Anything goes and maybe you'll get moderation and maybe not.

    I accept that now. It'll all be ok.



    B

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    I am sorry that you have had a rough year, Bambalina. I, however, don't really think anybody meant to attack you to the point where you began crying. Like tinydancer said, though, anytime you try to start running things you're going to run into skeptics and criticism. This is probably only the beginning. Even if you create the most awesome sites in the world, somebody will hate you.

    I, too, am on the fence about your projects, but I like your ideas and think your heart and head are in the right place, so I want to see how things develop. But I must admit that I tend to agree with a lot of what Roast said, and I know for a fact that she's not the only one who feels that way.

    Personally when people start talking a lot about starting projects, running things, rallying the masses, and the majority of their interaction seems to be for a certain purpose, it makes me skeptical. I start wanting to know who they really are. I want to see some of their work. Some of their profiles. In this case I'm more than curious as to what you even look like.

    I mean, I'm not super involved like that so I'm not going to really ask you, but It'd be comforting to at least know people who know you for real. This reminds of like the whole Alexa Di Carlo thing. You can proclaim to be anybody over the internet, but when all I know of you or have seen or heard of you is a pair of shocked looking eyeballs in an avatar on an open forum, I don't take things seriously.

    It's messed up that you went through so much this year, but to me it's like, the moderator closed the other thread, then you started a new one quoting text from the old thread continuing it anyway! It's kind of irrational-seeming to me, but to each her own.

    I'm definitely not trying to attack you. But some of this stuff seems out of control. Since you're not really asking much of us but $100 to get this to work, and if it takes off it really could be great, I'll pledge and all. But for me, someone who doesn't know you at all (never seen you, never spoken to you on the phone, never seen a cam profile of yours, doesn't know anyone who really has, nada...) I'm trying to look at you as a businesswoman and sometimes it's kind of difficult.

    I'm definitely not one to go back and forth in threads but I just had to speak my piece. Good luck to you in all of your endeavors.

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    Well, let me say first off. Thanks for posting your concerns as you have. These sorts of posts help me and give me impetus to move forward.

    Secondly, I want to clear this up right away.

    Posted: Yesterday, 10:19 PM and closed the thread.

    Posted: Yesterday, 09:22 PM and started this thread.

    So, this is how many of these little "un-truths" get started. It wasn't at all
    Quote Originally Posted by ShelleyConnors
    "it's like, the moderator closed the other thread, then you started a new one quoting text from the old thread continuing it anyway! It's kind of irrational-seeming to me, but to each her own."
    But was more like PROBABLY the moderator saw THIS thread and went and closed the one where the drama was happening. Right? Since the thread was closed almost a full hour AFTER I posted this one.

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    I am sorry that you have had a rough year, Bambalina. I, however, don't really think anybody meant to attack you to the point where you began crying.
    We'll agree to disagree.

    Quote Originally Posted by roast
    I've been disillusioned by Bamb's promises multiple times over, her saying that the media is now involved and something will happen 'any second', her using collective terminology (which is an ideology I support in my personal life), her saying that CamWealth & Streamate will be sued because she has movement on it, that her site is about to break (Ive seen your work Bambalina as its linked on CGU - I don't believe you have the design skills or capacity to make an indy cam girls website), that the union is going full steam, etc.

    my problem is that this is B's cycle and Ive seen so many get so swept up by its fervor then crash when it goes no where.... and it bothers me. And its not that It doesnt go anywhere because 'we don't care enough' or any of that hogwash - what I mean the promises made that many will wait to come to light, the repeatedly changing deadlines that expire, the comments about things happening any minute not ever happening, her suddenly not having internet access for a month (as a website owner whose business is supposedly all online? seriously?), etc.

    since she's uh... actually a worker in this industry.

    However, for those who are holding out on Bambalina's long rants having any substance beyond furious typing: don't.

    but then was flabbergasted by a lack of followthrough, erratic emotional outburst, discovered she's not a cam model & never has been

    Ive said it before - pimps come in all shapes and forms, same with snake oil salesmen

    So, are you saying that:

    Lying about many things I've said or done.
    Calling me a pimp and an snake oil salesman.
    Completely overstating the problems she sees with me.
    Making things up wholecloth that slander me completely.

    That all that was CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, meant to help me, or to honestly represent who I am??

    I say it was off-topic rabid nastiness meant to hurt me and tear me down and make me feel bad. And for one day, it succeeded.

    In the first paragraph up there from roast, there are NO truths. There is 3 strong distortions of truth, that taken as statements, would be considered lies. And one OUTRIGHT lie. (That I ever said I have a "Union that is going full steam", which would be fucking completely insane!)

    I never said the media was involved and something was going to happen 'any second' ...I don't think I ever used the words GOING TO HAPPEN, and just said I had been in contact with media. And I certainly never said it was ANY SECOND as she quotes.

    I never said I was suing SM or CamWealth, but that I was helping gather info for potential lawsuits. Letting Pornlaw know this existed. Helping the people who SAID they would sue. etc.

    I never said my site was about to break, although I did twice give expected dates for opening that were pushed back. I also updated on this board when those pushbacks came.

    And her opinion on my skills as a programmer, based on something she SAYS she saw that I designed, is ludicrous and is opinion, and has nothing to do with the reality of me hiring a designer to do the sites.

    That is just the first paragraph up there. And I ask her to quote where I did the things she says I did. PROVE that I dd those things...it's easy to twist something from the past and state it in a slanderous way for those who are new or didn't read it. But SHOW me where those things she spoke about happened. The CLOSEST to reality is the FACT that I believed my Indy site would be up a LONG time ago and have been repeatedly wrong and disappointed by those I've worked with and had a terrible year on top of it. So I spoke too soon, but I mostly kept it to the "probably" and the "should be opening" and not the absolute...either way, I am spoken about by roast as if I have said I have like ten different sites dropping anytime and continuously have riled up people over and over and over...show me the OVER AND OVER AND OVER she very much alludes to.

    multiple times over, this is B's cycle
    I mean, this all ignores that she OUTRIGHT LIES about me in a VERY negative way which dis-includes me from the entire group here. Claiming I am not and never was a cam-model. That is an OUTRIGHT lie. Also, tat being a manager/promoter of women on MFC doesn't qualify to speak about it, even though my income is directly derived from MFC. And even though I have an account on MFC. And she continues to say it with no proof whatsoever, even after being corrected and told her words are lies. So she is KNOWINGLY lying to hurt my reputation.

    I mean, sorry Shelly, but a lie is a lie.

    Anyway, enough of that....

    As roast herself said:

    Quote Originally Posted by roast
    Im the only real bully in this thread because I have no issue with the petition or thinking behind why MFC should change
    So she outright admits that she is off topic and de-railing a thread she has NO argument with, to make personal attacks against me. She admits it outright.

    So let's move on....

    Like tinydancer said, though, anytime you try to start running things you're going to run into skeptics and criticism. This is probably only the beginning. Even if you create the most awesome sites in the world, somebody will hate you.
    Generally, I am thick skinned. I too though have feelings and can be overwhelmed on a place I normally feel is all about helping people, and lifting them up (as opposed to tearing them down) and giving encouragement. So I was a bit blindsided, because when Nico-n-Justine do it, whatever...who the fuck are they? But when roast does that and so viciously and so filled with bullshit and lies, it blind-sided me, I admit it.

    I, too, am on the fence about your projects, but I like your ideas and think your heart and head are in the right place, so I want to see how things develop. But I must admit that I tend to agree with a lot of what Roast said, and I know for a fact that she's not the only one who feels that way.
    And honestly Shelly, THAT is completely OK! I don't blame you. And for ME, "Bambalina", I have never asked you or anyone else for a DIME for ME,
    "B"...If I open these sites, you then must go to them and see what they are about and decide from there if they seem worthwhile to you. The Indy Site, and the Panty Site and so on....So until they exist, well, I don;t expect you trust me that they will great...once they open, decide for yourself if I did a good job. Follow? I mean...Do you KNOW the owners of CamWealth, and adultcamgirlsnetwork, and xxxcambabes? Do you know the owners of Streamate? MyFreeCams, LJ, IM, IF, cams, webcams, etc.? Do you have pictures of them to know what their faces look like? Do you even know ANYTHING about their backgrounds?

    Yet down here, this is a complaint about "Bambalina"...Well Jeez, I bet I have talked to more girls and honestly put myself out there to more girls and really gotten to know more girls than fucking "AdminLeo" does...or the faceless partnership that is/was SM.

    Personally when people start talking a lot about starting projects, running things, rallying the masses, and the majority of their interaction seems to be for a certain purpose, it makes me skeptical. I start wanting to know who they really are. I want to see some of their work. Some of their profiles. In this case I'm more than curious as to what you even look like.
    Ok, so I admit it Shelly, I'm smart in certain ways, but in this way, I'm dumb as a big ol' rock...How the hell does the whole MFC thing fit into my greed? How does me asking girls to work to make MFC follow their rules, how does it FIT??? I don't get it...I mean sure if I am successful and RIGHT, I will make more money on MFC (which it has been said I don't even work on, so it makes even LESS sense) but so will EVERY CAM-MODEL IN THE WORLD. (Assuming I'm right)...and if I am wrong, then free-shows will just resume anyway as soon as no-one tries to keep them away... or if it goes absolutely no-where, then no-one LOSES anything, and nothing changes but that I wasted a motherfucking HEAP of time typing a lot of stuff out.

    I just don't see how a "majority of my interaction is for certain purposes"...How does the MFC stuff, which started this, fit into that? You're polite and I like you and we get along...tell me how this feeds my greed or whatever...I don't get it...I have never even intimated that ONE person should EVER leave MFC....I HAVE about SM, many times and will again.

    I mean, I'm not super involved like that so I'm not going to really ask you, but It'd be comforting to at least know people who know you for real. This reminds of like the whole Alexa Di Carlo thing. You can proclaim to be anybody over the internet, but when all I know of you or have seen or heard of you is a pair of shocked looking eyeballs in an avatar on an open forum, I don't take things seriously.
    Who do you know that knows the owners of SM for real? Or any of those other sites? If I am a 68 year old hermaphrodite alien, will it matter if I create a killer site that makes you money???

    And every girl in the Collective will know who I am as soon as we sign contracts. Many will surely speak to me, and at some point I'd hope all the owners get together and meet.

    It's messed up that you went through so much this year, but to me it's like, the moderator closed the other thread, then you started a new one quoting text from the old thread continuing it anyway! It's kind of irrational-seeming to me, but to each her own.
    Answered this one up there...never happened...it was the other way around..
    I'm definitely not trying to attack you. But some of this stuff seems out of control. Since you're not really asking much of us but $100 to get this to work, and if it takes off it really could be great, I'll pledge and all. But for me, someone who doesn't know you at all (never seen you, never spoken to you on the phone, never seen a cam profile of yours, doesn't know anyone who really has, nada...) I'm trying to look at you as a businesswoman and sometimes it's kind of difficult.
    Please don't. In fact I have NO problems with someone...MissEgo or Aria, or someone else you feel you know and trust, administering the escrow account for the Collective. That way no-one has to trust a dime to me. I will still do everything I am doing now for the Collective and will put in my $100 as well and will own exactly as much as you do. The Collective is not, and never has been ABOUT me. I totally want everyone to put on their two cents and make it happen! I will step back as much as possible as often as possible, and will also give my idea of things when it's discussion time. I can find us a great programmer I think, and if no-one wants me doing that job, then I will hand it off.

    I'm definitely not one to go back and forth in threads but I just had to speak my piece. Good luck to you in all of your endeavors.
    That's awesome and I'm really glad you did. Because you allowed me to clear some stuff up, and as far as me saying stuff will happen, and it not happening, well, all I can do is put some good stuff up and make it happen. Right? Show you all that I *am* trustworthy.

    So, lets get to it....

    B

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    I do think that's harsh. You have taken on a huge task and I totally understand the challenges of balancing your personal life with career goals. We aren't super human. As far as I know B hasn't taken lots of money out of people's pockets.

    This will be a bonus if it comes together. I've had plenty of my own personal issues getting in the way of work projects. But may I remind everyone that this was pitched as a collective?

    If you want it to happen faster, pick up some of the work...

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    Wow, I've only been gone for like two days!! But apparently I missed a complete **** storm go down. I guess I have a lot of reading to do...

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    keep doing your thing bamb!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BellaBellini View Post
    I do think that's harsh. You have taken on a huge task and I totally understand the challenges of balancing your personal life with career goals. We aren't super human. As far as I know B hasn't taken lots of money out of people's pockets.

    This will be a bonus if it comes together. I've had plenty of my own personal issues getting in the way of work projects. But may I remind everyone that this was pitched as a collective?

    If you want it to happen faster, pick up some of the work...
    Thank you so much.

    Overall, that is one of the other most stress-causing and angering things. That Nico-n-Justine and roast make it like the collective can't work. And so describe it as MY project, when it so is NOT. What bother me is that all of the wonderful ladies who show up to the chats and throw ideas out there consistently and constantly and amaze me with their creativity and wit and brilliance, are talked about like the are handicapped and cannot do anything without Bambalina, who is evil and taking them for a ride...

    It is my belief, and my great hope, that if I get abducted by aliens and taken off Earth tomorrow forever, that you ladies will rock this and keep it going and make it happen. You don't need me! I may be a magnetic pole that started the thing going, but I am not the OWNER of this or even the LEADER...this is truly a collective. And to have it so slandered, attacked and put-down REALLY bothered me.

    Insult the Collective, and you insult THE COLLECTIVE, not just me.

    Feel free to trash me and my personal sites and so on...but leave the ladies of the Collective alone.

    Anyway Bella, I adore you darlin' and I thank you for the support!

    B

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    Wow, I've only been gone for like two days!! But apparently I missed a complete **** storm go down. I guess I have a lot of reading to do...
    Oh yes m'love and it was a really fun party! (takes off silly pointy birthday party hat) and I can't wait till next year when these guys throw me another (blows into party tweeter) kickass rockin fun marathon like that one! (spins noise-maker and smiles through her sad clown make-up)

    For me it just come down to "Mean Girls Suck" and the "Mean Girls Club" has a few more members in my book....it's all good, but just remember, if they show up in your thread and don't agree with you? Well, your thread WILL be ruined and done! Yep!

    Otherwise, glad yer back!

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    Seriously? What is the point of this thread? If you are doing what you are suppose to be doing then why does what Roast had to say to you really offend you? There must be some truth to it since you are obviously offended and just had to start a thread to talk about this stuff?

    However, you do give out some good information from time to time Bambalina. I appreciate those posts you do from time to time. I do not agree with a lot of things you say half the time but I just do not see the point of making another thread like this to get people to feel sorry for you? I don't see the point of why you had to explain yourself to everyone on stripperweb.

    Anyways, I'm out. I understand life and stressful things happen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambalina View Post
    But I'm an asshole with severe fibromyalgia and suffer from sleep disorder and chronic pain.

    I have a 4 year old son I care for and love more than anything.

    I live on the road in a 5th wheel RV, and I move a LOT.

    I got slammed earlier this year and my truck was destroyed by drunk bitch doing 55 miles an hour into a red lighted intersection. Got fucked over by her insurance for over 7 weeks and almost got stiffed for my truck.

    My best friend in the whole world died this year.

    I had to help with healthcare costs of a family member in an emergency that WIPED ME THE FUCK OUT.

    SO, I'm crying now roast. You succeeded. You hurt me really fucking bad and made me recount why I am such an unqualified unreliable fucking LOSER this year.

    There is no excuse...I get it...No promise should ever be broken, and my word is my bond. (just like those who sign the contract for MFC, huh?). So it doesn't matter that this was one of the worst years in my life, I should have finished that camsite!

    I have said I am not the best communicator in the world, and I guess I can be erratic. In 1989 I had a car accident and severe concussion. It caused enough damage in my head that I lost the ability to do math for over 18 months, and had to re-learn it. I'm NOT good at multi-tasking anymore. I still have a high IQ, but things just work differently in there now. I try, and I fight for what I believe in, and I plod along and keep trying. I will have these websites, and I will help the collective get going, and someday I will have a bigbox style camsite of my own. I guess I shouldn't believe developers who say "Up and running in two weeks" and then I give it a month and they are still fucking around...

    Anyway, none of this is your problem...and I don't blame any of you if you don't want to work with me, and think I'm a flake...this year, I have been.

    I'm so sorry if I let you all down. I will do better this coming year I hope. And I hope some of you stick with me.

    Thank you, and again, I'm sorry,

    B

    ETA: Thank you all so much! I appreciate the kind words and really love y'all very much.


    OMG, this post BROKE MY HEART!!! I'm sorry for the shitty year that you've had, Bambalina.

    It angers me with how careless people act when behind the wheel of a car (lately I'm noticing this a lot with young women...damn near got ran over twice this year on two separate occasions by young women).

    I didn't even know you have a son until I saw your post that day about going to Busch Gardens, I think it was? 4 years old...that's so sweet.

    I have never ever thought of you as a "loser." In fact, I have a lot of respect for you, and I think more people on this forum should be grateful that you are a part of SW. You've provided us with so much useful info that you could've just kept to yourself, because that's the kind of generous, helpful person that you are.

    I don't even bother with starting threads on these forums anymore, because I get tired of the nitpicky people, acting like Miss Know-It-All's with their rude posts. You know, the shit that's bound to happen when you get a bunch of females "under one roof."

    I have seen you post a lot of valuable info on here, and people doubting you and questioning your motives, and it just makes me shake my head. Just want you to know that there are people on here who DO appreciate you and care about you.
    My birthday is August 15th!!!

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