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    Default Who's the Right Guy *or* Promotion is about Targeted Demographics

    SO, when you are in a cam room, one of the first things to always think about is how to entice the right audience for your room.

    So, first question is, what is the right audience for you?

    Well, what group of guys will spend the most on you?

    And how do you specifically entice that group?

    Once you answer these questions, assuming you answer them correctly, you will then have a much clearer picture of what target audience you are shooting for, as opposed to just hoping the right guys come along who have the money to spend.

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    Lets start here.

    As a general demographic for men in the world, what AGE group tends to have the most money, and be likely to cam as well?

    What ethnic group or race? Or does that make any difference?

    Just like what is done with a serial killer, I think it is great idea for every cam model, to PROFILE, what a BIG spender is, or a whale.

    Because then you can enact INTENT in reeling them in.

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    Well...I get different kinds of spenders....I wouldn't say that the BIG spenders are necessarily what should be targeted because I prefer consistent money.

    I get the guys that will come and spend 200-300 every night for a week and then vanish and come back around once in a blue moon if at all. Those are mostly older white guys..like 40-50

    I get the guys I call budget regulars who will come around once or twice a week and spend around 100-125 a week. They are late 20s to late 30s..I notice the majority of them are hispanic. This is my favorite type of customers.

    Then I get the guys that don't spend much maybe 25 dollars once a week, but they are always around. They are usually really annoying but their money does add up over time. They are usually young 18-24ish and there is no predominant ethnic group, or at least I haven't noticed. They are the ones that also will send you there number (usually when they're about to run out of money)and tell you to text them or suggest we go on skype for free lol. This is my least favorite type of customer.

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    Hottie summed it up very well. Those types have been my experience also.

    Whales are nice but they all have an expiration date. My bread and butter are the budget regulars. Counting on whales has gotten me nothing but trouble. I never count on them any more - just milk em, enjoy the money, and make the whale happy while it lasts. I find it often ends when they realize I'm not going to meet them or give my personal contact info to them.

    With that said though, it is totally worth makin that whale as satisfied as you can, because they will often return after months away or even years.

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    haha at the young guys wanting to skype for free! I get sooooo many guys asking me to do this. Seriously??? LOL!

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    Hottie is soooo on point. That's exactly how it runs for me too. I don't really even think there is too much I can do to attract different guys. I wouldn't mind keeping the exact ratio of clientele I have now, if I could multiply all of it by like 3. 3x the whales, 3x the budget ballers, then divide the last category by 3 and I'd be alright

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    I never thought about this before! So when I got back into camming this year I definitely had a new experience: regulars. A few years back I just had a constant running of randoms that I made my money off of.

    So the real big spenders, you guys call them whales [hahaha]: Usually try to feel like a demure sugar daddy of sorts.. they usually want to talk about their day and shower you with money in tips so others can see and I don't know, get jealous? I personally love the big amounts of money, but I don't like their potential to get territorial and also, you never know when you'll stop hearing from them.

    The ones in the middle of the road are my favorite too. I like gradual tippers who stick around for an hour or two [maybe more!] and eventually decide to do private shows. These guys are also most likely to buy content as they're on a budget and want the most for the least.

    Small spenders I also don't mind because they almost ALWAYS end up being guys around my age that I can talk and talk and talk to all day, and they tend to keep my spirits up. They usually throw a tip here or there, apologize and maybe get a show on payday.

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    I have learned that I come off as the sweet but naughty girl next door, so the kind of guys who are going to like me have ended up being this:

    Big spenders and regulars are always, for me, 45-60 year old men looking for a "regular" girl that turns them on that they can help out financially. This is my favorite kind of customer because I actually enjoy the time I spend with them, giving them attention they want while also getting financial help myself. Most of the time they just want someone to talk with.

    Moderate spenders and semi regulars are 35-45 year old married men who aren't getting any from the wife. Also, 20-30 year old military guys.

    Then there are the guys that love to see me but can't afford much so they are regular, but short. They are usually 25-35ish. This is my 2nd favorite kind because they make up the largest part of my customers, so I can count on the consistency.

    Then there is "all the rest", random guys, quickies, once in a blue moon types.

    I think each girl needs to figure out what types of guys she tends to attract and then work that angle. For me like I said, always been the guys looking for the fun sexy "girl friend" type. There won't be a perfect target group that is the same for every girl, so finding out who usually likes you and targeting that is a great suggestion.

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    Default Re: Who's the Right Guy *or* Promotion is about Targeted Demographics

    Ok one thing that has come shining through was something I exploit well in my promotions.

    The age of the guys who are the medium and large tippers is 30s-60s, and in general falls around 40-55....

    If this is true, can we uncover some truths about these gentlemen? I already have some things in mind and have successfully used them, but I am also kind of doing research here, so please feel free to help me out.

    What subjects do these guys tend to like to talk about?

    What sorts of subjects and discussions make them WANT to tip?

    (Ever watched rooms and watched the tipping go up and down and NOTICED what leads to tipping increasing? It can be VERY revealing)

    What sort of music gets these guys to stay?

    What sort of music chases them off? How bout conversation?

    What sorts of activities seem to make them tip or make them happy or attract them to your room?

    Promotion consists of understanding some of these key points for YOU and YOUR show.

    Love the discussion so far by the way...

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    Bamb, I have been doing adult shows for a very long time.
    In the real world I'd probably be the CEO of the company by now lol. thats how much experience I feel I have...
    And after all this... there is no right or wrong answer. There is no wrong guy.
    The right guy is the guy with the money. And thats it. What age, race, location does not matter.
    Remember that this type of job deals with people from around the world. Not just the USA and UK.
    As someone said here and others agree... just log on.
    Be nice. Act sweet and sexy. Act slutty if you want.
    You cant ( I cant.. after all this time) say "THIS is my targeted audience!" That would mean to limit myself to that only.
    Too much talk on this subject feels like a waste of time to me.
    No disrespect. Seriously. Thats not what Im about...but seriously how much information are you trying to gather? Ive been on this forum for 3 months or so and I saw you post "questions" like this numerous times.. how long are you planning to do this "brainstorming" for? I know you want to start up your own site that is great but is all this talk really necessarily? Out of 100% girls on all websites, if 1 % post here, thats a big number...
    Less talk, more action, Bamb
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    I mostly get customers from East Coast, Europe, and Australia. I always ask customers location from along with age it's good to keep a poll to know the common type of customers more attract. Age group between 35-50 years old are most likely booking cam shows with me. Men that are from outside the states get more high demand from them and I know exactly why. I'm a black cam model and some men from Europe/Australia they view women of color as exotic beauty. Also, they may not ever get the chance to intimate be with WOC off cam. The reasons could be they live in low populations of minorities or just too shy to approaching over fear will be rejected. Camming makes it more easy for them approaching WOC.

    What subjects do these guys tend to like to talk about?
    SEX

    What sorts of subjects and discussions make them WANT to tip?
    Detail description about my body along with tease talk about their cock. Men that are from outside the states love it when compliment them about native languages speak along with accents speaking English it helps them know wanted for sure with WOC cam models.

    What sort of music gets these guys to stay?
    Soft Rock,Oldies and R&B

    What sort of music chases them off? How bout conversation?
    Rap, Techno and Heavy Metal

    What sorts of activities seem to make them tip or make them happy or attract them to your room?
    Dancing, Roleplay out fantasy, Creative Props.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    Bamb, I have been doing adult shows for a very long time.
    In the real world I'd probably be the CEO of the company by now lol. thats how much experience I feel I have...
    And after all this... there is no right or wrong answer. There is no wrong guy.
    The right guy is the guy with the money. And thats it. What age, race, location does not matter.
    Remember that this type of job deals with people from around the world. Not just the USA and UK.
    As someone said here and others agree... just log on.
    Be nice. Act sweet and sexy. Act slutty if you want.
    You cant ( I cant.. after all this time) say "THIS is my targeted audience!" That would mean to limit myself to that only.
    Too much talk on this subject feels like a waste of time to me.
    No disrespect. Seriously. Thats not what Im about...but seriously how much information are you trying to gather? Ive been on this forum for 3 months or so and I saw you post "questions" like this numerous times.. how long are you planning to do this "brainstorming" for? I know you want to start up your own site that is great but is all this talk really necessarily? Out of 100% girls on all websites, if 1 % post here, thats a big number...
    Less talk, more action, Bamb
    xox
    Really though, you are so right!

    I don't really "target" any one kind of guy. I just log on and go with it. I do notice the kinds that normally go into pvt with me are the ones I listed above, but really, I try to appeal to my room in general instead of looking for the right customer. I think it's a better approach to just log on and be available to every kind of guy.

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    We can agree to disagree about this one. In fact I made a HUGE amount of money doing just this sort of research. I can generally take any woman who believes that "just log in and make the money" and double or triple her income in 60 days or less. By specifically playing to the audience that HAS and is willing to SPEND, lots and lots of money.

    This thread is more about learning something else for me, right now. And hopefully passing along some really important info for the women who know how to read between the lines.

    I believe the biggest reason that women take the "easy way out" and do public shows, is exactly because there are now SO MANY that do not do their homework and actually try to appeal to an audience that can never support them and drive their business.

    If you spend just a few hours and go through the threads posted here, you will see that the inane and silly beats the serious research into making money money by like 10 to 1. That newbie questions outweigh serious strategy for making BANK by 10 to 1. That concepts of the structure of the places we work, how to approach them, their Rules, their place in the world, and most importantly how women can truly improve camming, take HUGE backseat to challenges for making money, and giggling about what some other camgirl said or did. It is the way of the world, and yet it can be incredibly depressing and daunting. Because most women who cam, don't realize (or don't want to think about, or worse, are too lazy to think about) that instead of being happy because you make $200 per day, you could literally set yourself up for life.

    That's Ok, I am learning more and more why everyone says there is so little possibility of organizing this labor force. How do you organize people who get pissed when you ask them to look at the bigger picture? You can't...You just have to let those people drown and partner with those who have eyes to see.

    Who knows, MAYBE I'm completely wrong and the "just let it happen however, it'll all be GREAT!" crowd is right...

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    Edit: Collectives become prettier to me everyday.
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    Okay, I was thinking about this more and I should probably answer more thoroughly, especially since reading this and taking these questions into account I've tripled my earnings.

    SO I'm just copying from brownsugardoll

    [Keep in mind my main demographic are either artists or military in their 20-30s.... yum ]

    What subjects do these guys tend to like to talk about?
    Technology, music, sex, alcohol, traveling, books

    What sorts of subjects and discussions make them WANT to tip?
    I usually start getting tips when we talk about technology.. they seem to like a girl who 'wants' to talk about her laptop or Android phone.. once they start getting into me I kind of 'accidentally' bend over in a miniskirt, dance a little, and mention daily highest tipper gets x prize [usually custom pics].

    What sort of music gets these guys to stay?
    Dubstep, doom metal [no lyrics, just slow heavy rock], top 40s

    What sort of music chases them off? How bout conversation?
    EDM that isn't dubstep, heavy metal, hardcore, punk, etc.. Anything that bars them from easily hearing me.

    What sorts of activities seem to make them tip or make them happy or attract them to your room?
    Once I have an active room I usually get out my big photo Kama Sutra and ask favorite sex positions, and I tell mine and 'explain' to them how to do it by putting myself into those positions. Gets their minds off the nonsexual discussions and starts getting them into pervert-mode.

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    I'm hoping this isn't too off topic or not what you girls are looking for but...
    I AM still a newbie on all counts as far as camming goes, but the little experience I have goes more towards identifying good costumers versus time wasters in chat. This is what made my cam time more profitable and enjoyable overtime.
    I can't pinpoint an exact demographic of costumers, they seem to be mostly white east coast, but the age range is all over the board. My hustle is trying to lure the guys who love the ultrafeminine style and an easy honest conversation, they will spend money to see their exact fantasy well played, so I try to push that.
    Thinking of making a thread to try and touch base with other girls about what are dead giveaways on time wasters, was my biggest rock to push when I started and still a hit and miss, hehe.

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    I think I'm alright at figuring out the time-wasters. Guys who ask and ask and ask about shows and what you do in them usually are. If he asks more than 5 questions he's a time-waster and is probably jerking it to you just telling him what you 'want' to do in a pvt with him. Also the more they want to PM and not get involved in the chat for me usually ends up with him not spending. Most guys who want to spend will get other guys in the chat involved and discuss group chats and stuff. Some will then PM and ask for pvt and there it goes. Sometimes I'll charge a very small tip to add to my friends list because if they aren't willing to pitch in 10 or 20 tokens to discuss shows or something then they sure as hell aren't going to buy.
    KhamilleXXX @ MFC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambalina View Post
    Ok one thing that has come shining through was something I exploit well in my promotions.

    The age of the guys who are the medium and large tippers is 30s-60s, and in general falls around 40-55....

    If this is true, can we uncover some truths about these gentlemen? I already have some things in mind and have successfully used them, but I am also kind of doing research here, so please feel free to help me out.

    What subjects do these guys tend to like to talk about?

    What sorts of subjects and discussions make them WANT to tip?

    (Ever watched rooms and watched the tipping go up and down and NOTICED what leads to tipping increasing? It can be VERY revealing)

    What sort of music gets these guys to stay?

    What sort of music chases them off? How bout conversation?

    What sorts of activities seem to make them tip or make them happy or attract them to your room?

    Promotion consists of understanding some of these key points for YOU and YOUR show.

    Love the discussion so far by the way...

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    This whole group of questions seems geared toward MFC. I find I can not work that site. It doesn't fit my personal style at all.

    I also don't like working for tips, also not my style. It seems too much like begging. Tips to me should be given after a per-minute show as appreciation, not them throwing a dollar at me to see a titty flash. I know some hosts can work that way and really bank but it's just not something I can get into (and I've tried, made me want to quit camming completely).

    I find guys want to talk about sex mostly. Talking about other subjects makes them think I am their friend and they quit spending.

    I've also found I tend to make more without playing music. I want their focus on me, not on what song is playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    This whole group of questions seems geared toward MFC. I find I can not work that site. It doesn't fit my personal style at all.

    I also don't like working for tips, also not my style. It seems too much like begging. Tips to me should be given after a per-minute show as appreciation, not them throwing a dollar at me to see a titty flash. I know some hosts can work that way and really bank but it's just not something I can get into (and I've tried, made me want to quit camming completely).

    I find guys want to talk about sex mostly. Talking about other subjects makes them think I am their friend and they quit spending.

    I've also found I tend to make more without playing music. I want their focus on me, not on what song is playing.
    You were correct they were geared more toward MFC...since SM doesnlt have the same free-chat, tips based economy.

    But thank you for not slapping my hand too hard and putting in some other camsite realities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    This whole group of questions seems geared toward MFC. I find I can not work that site. It doesn't fit my personal style at all.

    I also don't like working for tips, also not my style. It seems too much like begging. Tips to me should be given after a per-minute show as appreciation, not them throwing a dollar at me to see a titty flash. I know some hosts can work that way and really bank but it's just not something I can get into (and I've tried, made me want to quit camming completely).

    I find guys want to talk about sex mostly. Talking about other subjects makes them think I am their friend and they quit spending.

    I've also found I tend to make more without playing music. I want their focus on me, not on what song is playing.
    Ditto. Most talk is friendly, general banter and shop talk(show questions). Little to no music, I can't hear myself think......LOTS of smiling.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kittykrane View Post
    Ditto. Most talk is friendly, general banter and shop talk(show questions). Little to no music, I can't hear myself think......LOTS of smiling.
    I don't visualize your shows with "lots of smiling" mostly because of your avatar...I see you as badass...damn avatars tricking me!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambalina View Post
    I don't visualize your shows with "lots of smiling" mostly because of your avatar...I see you as badass...damn avatars tricking me!



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    I'm just a versatile Badass...

    I've found that when I limited my self to Domme only, I lost out on customers that wanted a sexually confident woman to do other stuff. And foot worshippers and wannabe slaves over and over again got really boring. I like to keep the mix interesting!


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