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    Wondering where some of you ladies trust to list yourself at for your independent shows?

    Do you/Have you ever paid to be listed?

    Do you get traffic from the indy sites?

    I haven't been able to find any decent ones other than camgirlssites.com (and I dont know if they are truly reputable?) and am on the brink of just making one

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    I use camgirlspot.com...get decent traffic from it, actually, though there is some cross-over with guys who find me on my other indy site listings...cgs is great cuz I can send them wherever I want to pay though, as the listing is mine
    I'd never pay for a listing unless it was a site with heavy quality traffic, which I haven't found yet, but that's just my thing, I'm all frugal
    Some chicas pay on cgs for a listing (it's pretty inexpensive) but I find as long as I choose a really hot profile pic, placement doesn't seem to matter as much

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    I am making myself independent aside from MFC in a month or so when I get back to camming...

    VERY interested to see what comes up in this thread so I can try some things out.

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    I haven't paid for a listing but my address is pretty much splattered anywhere I could think of to put it, haha.

    Most of my traffic comes from CGS too, though I find there are a LOT of pic collectors, scammers, and timewasters that come through, but I've found a decent whale or two, too.

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    I just tried to signup at CGS and it keeps giving me the same message, "Oops you've broke our site..."







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    yeah, it's been broken for at least 4 days... =_= I tried contacting them but nothing yet. Which is a damn shame because I want to change my intro to "NO PAYPAL NO MEETS"

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    Same with me, I changed my rates, and want to put up no paypal too, I have only made about 25 bucks from there,but have built a couple of good relationships off of it. I have been on there for about 3 weeks and have been contacted by maybe 20 people. But if i can't change it it sucks. Are they about to go under Hmm
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    I love camgirlspot! I keep getting that opps your broke our site error too! Crappy!!! We should all just open up a listing site for each other together like CGS since we already know how to get the traffic there.


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    I get lots of yahoo contacts from CGS but none of them ever, ever, ever convert for me. Sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilChick1989 View Post
    I love camgirlspot! I keep getting that opps your broke our site error too! Crappy!!! We should all just open up a listing site for each other together like CGS since we already know how to get the traffic there.
    What are we waiting for?? Lets just create a couple. Seriously.







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    Quote Originally Posted by HaydenBlue View Post
    What are we waiting for?? Lets just create a couple. Seriously.

    We really should. But where could we all meet up and who could do the work? I know we could prob just buy a website from wordpress and do it up. However, I know nothing of building a website just where to advertise


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    My friend just got her site up and is working furiously on promoting it. She wanted it to be in favor of the girls, since she's been a camgirl herself. She will let you promote your site, clips etc. As long as you promote her site with either a banner or a link. Not sure of the details. Her payout is like either 70 or 80 percent as well and she intends on keeping it that way. Also, she doesn't sell or record your videos and clips like some sites do because you do it through either yahoo, msn or skype. If you want to contact her about details, here is her website and her name is Dee. Not trying to be a troll but I'm willing to try anything that will make me some cash lol
    http://www.sexyindiecams.com
    Whats 6 inches long, 2 inches wide, and drives women wild?...... Money

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    ^^ that looks awesome!- have you signed up yet? do you know how long it takes to get approved and accept the payments? Are they going to provide traffic or is it totally word of mouth and referral?

    I cannot get on CGS either, and I'm trying to promote myself as many places as possible!
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    hum.. No.
    I dont want to be listed anywhere else other then the websites I work with.
    Granted they do list me on webmaster;s site and things like that.

    I plan to quit this job in the future..
    the less exposure, the better for me..

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    Hello Ladies! First, let me introduce myself. My name is Dee, and I am starting an independent cam listing site. I wanted to start an indie site for a while now, and offer other performers a way to market themselves, their business, and be able to easily accept their own payments. On sexyindiecams.com basically what you get is a profile.. ... You get one main profile pic, and up to 4 additional pictures on your profile. You also have two online status indicators, one for yahoo and one for skype (although we can add any additional ones).

    Your profile url will look like this:
    and you can direct your customers directly to your profile.

    In your profile you can fill out a bio, contact info, schedule, have comments, links, and a way to accept payments; and whatever else you may need can always be added.



    Quote Originally Posted by BlankStare View Post
    ^^ that looks awesome!- have you signed up yet? do you know how long it takes to get approved and accept the payments? Are they going to provide traffic or is it totally word of mouth and referral?

    I cannot get on CGS either, and I'm trying to promote myself as many places as possible!
    Usually it takes about 3 days to start accepting payments and have your profile set up. Payments are accepted and made through CCBill at the moment, with payments averaging between 70%-75%, after 26 weeks it will go up to average around 75%-80%, due to a rolling reserve. We are also looking into more pp's to further our market.

    We will provide traffic and performer promotion, but we also rely on the performers to bring (their own) traffic.

    We have lots of ideas, and will be constantly evolving and finding new things to offer and different ways to promote the performers. We will have featured girls, higher payout percentages for the top earners, and other promotions. I will constantly strive to make this site a success for all.

    What would you ladies like to have in an indie site? Anything we should add to the profiles? We're always open for feedback, and want to make it as friendly (and lucrative) to the girls and customers as possible.

    Looking forward to hearing some feedback from you ladies (and gentlemen)!

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    Hi Dee.

    Quote Originally Posted by SexyIndieCams View Post
    Usually it takes about 3 days to start accepting payments and have your profile set up. Payments are accepted and made through CCBill at the moment, with payments averaging between 70%-75%, after 26 weeks it will go up to average around 75%-80%, due to a rolling reserve. We are also looking into more pp's to further our market.
    can you explain what this means so that if models sign up with you all they have a solid metric to understand how they will get paid. averages & ranges can make a world of difference if the person is banking and wants to track their income independent of your service... which is smart business practice to do, right. unfortunately indie cam sites don't have the best track record here with payment, payout, consistency, etc. so being vague is not the best idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by SexyIndieCams View Post
    We will provide traffic and performer promotion, but we also rely on the performers to bring (their own) traffic.
    There aren't any models on your site at the moment - and a quick search around shows that you're not advertised anywhere & have nonexistent traffic... unfortunately there was a listing site I was on where the webmaster sent out regular emails basically pointing fingers at the models for not bringing in their own traffic and that a lack of earnings was their fault. Which to me always sounded like "make me more money off of your work, customers, and advertising ability" - so, that being said: what is your advertising plan? are you planning to have any backlinks or tradelinks with sites or at the very least have affiliates....?

    Since a few of us use adult billing services for independent shows (like almost 95% independent so our own customers, site, advertising) and know the cost of that plus webhosting... we look to independent listing sites to increase our own traffic instead of the other way around.

    your site is also hosted on godaddy which is cheap not-adult friendly hosting service... so without advertising, any models on the site, can you justify why your percentage cut is in the 70s and is vague? is it for cutting checks or legal consult or chargeback protection or-?

    I see that payout is biweekly - how do you pay? what methods do you offer?

    Also your TOS icon on the mainpage is a deadlink - I have to poke around to find it. Are models protected against chargebacks? The way your TOS is written the answers appears to be no.

    Not to just skewer you off the bat - but this is a super popular forum and people have been through the good, bad and the ugly of listing sites.... so posts that are clearly spam (ie, this is your first and only post so far) will be asked careful questions. Also there are threads about what people want from an independent site - which is useful for site owners Im sure, since the work is done for you





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    Hello Roast!

    Quote Originally Posted by roast View Post
    Hi Dee.



    can you explain what this means so that if models sign up with you all they have a solid metric to understand how they will get paid. averages & ranges can make a world of difference if the person is banking and wants to track their income independent of your service... which is smart business practice to do, right. unfortunately indie cam sites don't have the best track record here with payment, payout, consistency, etc. so being vague is not the best idea.
    Absolutely! Okay, CCBill takes 15% + a 5% 'rolling reserve', and the site takes 5% when broken down is this:

    Week 1 75% , -15% processing and -5% site cost -5% of profit taken out for reserve
    ...
    ...
    ... Week 26 75%, +5% reserve from week one

    All of your payments come directly from CCBill, you get a subaccount.. so payments will never be held up on my end. I have chosen a bi-weekly payment, check by mail, $50 minimum for the girls.. and maybe in the future will make it into weekly payouts. CCBill also does wire transfers.

    Quote Originally Posted by roast View Post
    There aren't any models on your site at the moment - and a quick around shows that you're not advertised anywhere & have traffic... unfortunately there was a listing site I was on where the webmaster sent out regular emails basically pointing fingers at the models for not bringing in their own traffic and that a lack of earnings was their fault. Which to me always sounded like "make me more money off of your work, customers, and advertising ability" - so, that being said: what is your advertising plan? are you planning to have any backlinks or tradelinks with sites or at the very least have affiliates....?
    We have actually just launched the site 8/8/2011. I submitted the site to Google yesterday, and have been working furiously on getting back links, and setting up an affiliate program, but we really want to keep the site as simple to the eye as possible.

    I will promote all girls via Twitter, mass e-mails to customers, and any other ways I can. I am not going to be 'borrowing' photos or clips of the girls without their permission to advertise them elsewhere. Any girls that are okay with me using them as a promo tool can let me know, and I will do so. I do not want to steal any content from the ladies.

    Quote Originally Posted by roast View Post
    Since a few of us use adult billing services for independent shows (like almost 95% independent so our own customers, site, advertising) and know the cost of that plus webhosting... and really look to indepdent listing sites to increase our own traffic instead of the other way around.

    your site is also hosted on godaddy which is cheap ... so without advertising, any models on the site, can you justify why your percentage cut is in the 70s and is vague? is it for cutting checks or legal consult or chargeback protection or-?

    I see that payout is biweekly - how do you pay? what methods do you offer?

    Also your TOS icon on the mainpage is a deadlink - I have to poke around to find it. Are models protected against chargebacks? The way your TOS is written the answers appears to be no.

    Not to just skewer you off the bat - but this is a super popular forum and people have been through the good, bad and the ugly of listing sites.... so posts that are clearly spam (ie, this is your first and only post so far) will be asked careful questions. Also there are threads about what people want from an independent site - which is useful for site owners Im sure,
    I understand I would do the same.

    Beings that the processor will be your own account, we do not protect chargebacks. You will be able to know who it was that gave you the cb and no longer offer shows to that person. However, we do eat the chargeback fee of $25. CCBill has a low CB rate, and hopefully we can keep ours to almost non-existent.

    The TOS is a dead link, sorry about that.. going to fix asap. But the TOS is on 2 pages, model sign up and login page.

    I actually have 2 domains.. I have another that I haven't set up yet, but paid for. The hosting and set up was the most costly. I could have gotten the domain for much cheaper than Godaddy, but I trust them. The site is not hosted through Godaddy, though.. just the domain.

    I'm all about the ladies, and doing what they really want to do. At a 5%-6% cut, I wouldn't be making any profit off of this unless there was well over $10,000 in revenue per month. I want this to be a success for the performers and the customers.


    I'm happy to answer any more questions ya'll may have

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    Quote Originally Posted by DottieMay View Post
    My friend just got her site up and is working furiously on promoting it. She wanted it to be in favor of the girls, since she's been a camgirl herself. She will let you promote your site, clips etc. As long as you promote her site with either a banner or a link. Not sure of the details. Her payout is like either 70 or 80 percent as well and she intends on keeping it that way. Also, she doesn't sell or record your videos and clips like some sites do because you do it through either yahoo, msn or skype. If you want to contact her about details, here is her website and her name is Dee. Not trying to be a troll but I'm willing to try anything that will make me some cash lol
    http://www.sexyindiecams.com
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    ^ LOL, is okay, I am completely understanding (as Dottie said I was a camgirl myself, but am no longer able to do so)

    I also saw where you said that the listings site would blame the girls for not bringing in traffic. I will NEVER do this. I don't care if you bring in traffic.. My intent really isn't to make a bunch of money. Although, it would be nice

    The way to keep your account active is to be making money with the site. If you have gone 7-9months without making any money- we will have to remove your account. But, we will soon create a site that is only listings, and not be able to accept payments, for the girls that just want some exposure.

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    my favourite is realgirlsoncam.com
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    Also, I would like to know what the girls/guys would like on my particular site and layout. I always need a criticizing eye We're trying to make it user-friendly as possible, but with as many features as possible, too.

    I will most certainly try to bring as much traffic as I can.. for everyone's good. I've invested in Ad Words already, and am going to try to make the most out of all my options.

    But, I cannot get real traffic without ladies

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    Quote Originally Posted by SexyIndieCams View Post
    Also, I would like to know what the girls/guys would like on my particular site and layout. I always need a criticizing eye We're trying to make it user-friendly as possible, but with as many features as possible, too.

    I will most certainly try to bring as much traffic as I can.. for everyone's good. I've invested in Ad Words already, and am going to try to make the most out of all my options.

    But, I cannot get real traffic without ladies
    Okay so basically right now you are just recruiting girls and getting traffic? The site is kind of like having your own site within a listings site? am I right? Is my information safe? Is it hosted on godaddy servers??

    Sorry bout all the questions but I like to know what I am getting into.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SexyIndieCams View Post
    Also, I would like to know what the girls/guys would like on my particular site and layout. I always need a criticizing eye We're trying to make it user-friendly as possible, but with as many features as possible, too.
    Any chance you'd be interested in switching to a more neutral color scheme and/or design? I like the simplicity of the functionality, but the design is mostly suited to the "hot teen" image, which won't really work for other cam identities.

    I'm not saying you should change it because maybe that's a niche you want to work. But if you're looking to keep it open to a variety of camgirls, I know my cam identity won't fit. It'll just look like I'm being ironic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlankStare View Post
    Okay so basically right now you are just recruiting girls and getting traffic? The site is kind of like having your own site within a listings site? am I right? Is my information safe? Is it hosted on godaddy servers??

    Sorry bout all the questions but I like to know what I am getting into.
    Hello Blankstare!
    Yes, right now we are in the recruiting phase and you are exactly right; it is like having your own site in a listings site. In theory, everyone would promote everyone. I will also personally promote the hell out of all the (active) girls, along with the site as a whole. You will not need to login to the site to show you are online, either. All you have to do is log on to your preferred messenger service

    All of your information is absolutely safe. We will not store any of your IDs or Verification forms online, they will all be store in files and on an external hard drive. Never, Ever, online.. and especially not in an open directory. I remember a while back where this was a problem with a particular indie site and I am going to make sure that doesn't happen with our site.

    The site is not hosted on Godaddy. Only the domain was registered with Godaddy and we have a very adult friendly host. No worries there.


    Quote Originally Posted by Noa View Post
    Any chance you'd be interested in switching to a more neutral color scheme and/or design? I like the simplicity of the functionality, but the design is mostly suited to the "hot teen" image, which won't really work for other cam identities.

    I'm not saying you should change it because maybe that's a niche you want to work. But if you're looking to keep it open to a variety of camgirls, I know my cam identity won't fit. It'll just look like I'm being ironic.
    Hello Noa!

    Yes, I have realized the theme is more of a cutesy type of theme that will not work with all of the girls. Initially, I was going to make a separate section for the Alt. and Fetish ladies, and I still intend on doing so once there are more ladies. I am going to change the background color of the main site to perhaps a very deep purple or blue so it is more acceptable for all types of performers.

    Also, the ladies can choose their own colors for the profiles- this includes the text colors, background text colors, and widget colors.

    Roast,

    I read (most of) the other thread you referred me to, thank you it gave me some great ideas

    I saw one of the ladies say that they don't like all the beggars coming through the YIM, and am thinking of maybe just making the listing page free to view, but have the customers pay $2.95 to gain access to the pages that show the ladies online status. Would this work for you ladies? Or, I could just use Skype online indicators for the ladies that prefer not to use Yahoo.. maybe that would weed out some of the creepers.

    I would like to keep it as open as possible for a while in order to gain traffic. But once established, I can certainly make that an option.

    I will work on the colors tonight and come back in the AM for some more feedback. Keep the questions coming ladies! I want to make it the best damn independent site ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noa View Post
    I'm not saying you should change it because maybe that's a niche you want to work. But if you're looking to keep it open to a variety of camgirls, I know my cam identity won't fit. It'll just look like I'm being ironic.
    haha one of the sites Im has a white label called something like "Hot Teen Cheerleader Pussy" (not exact but general idea), whenever I see my profile pop up on it when I'm live I just laugh and laugh





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