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    Quote Originally Posted by bubblegumbitch View Post
    ^^no ur talking about ur cammodels link. u automatically get that when u become a model on sm. u get 75% from guys signing up through the link. but in order for gold club to be activated, u gotta ask them for it.
    I did ask them and set my rates and everything. They e-mailed me back with a link that was something like streamate.com/mycamname/goldclub or something like that. They gave me a password and username for the link they gave me but when I clicked the link it took me to my profile page again lol






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    Quote Originally Posted by Caramel_BBW View Post
    I did ask them and set my rates and everything. They e-mailed me back with a link that was something like streamate.com/mycamname/goldclub or something like that. They gave me a password and username for the link they gave me but when I clicked the link it took me to my profile page again lol
    that's weird then hmmm....

    this is the email that i got from them directly:

    Hello,

    Gold Club is a great new tool for Streamate models. This gives you your
    own "members area" on Streamate. With a Gold Club you are able to record
    and add videos, upload galleries and add blog entries to keep in touch
    with your members.

    Members are charged monthly to join your Gold Club and they receive a
    discount for shows with you as a member.

    What we need to get started is what you'd like to charge per month and
    the %age of discount you'd like to offer. For example, $14.99/mo and 10%
    discount. Once we activate it - it will be available for you to start
    adding content. Once enough content is added, we will activate your Gold
    Club for members on the site.

    You earn the same percentage for Gold Club as you are currently earning.

    Let us know if you would like your Gold Club activated and what you'd
    like to charge!

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    So they said they couldn't set one up for me, but havnt told me yet way I need to do to qualify. Then today I realized, IM SUCH AN IDIOT! *facepalm*. why worry about getting a SM gold club where I make 35% when I can upload videos and pics to my own damn website for sale??? Because my old comp was so bad I never made clips so I forgot I had a video sales section on my website, and just used the site for the camroom I have built into it. (not SM imbeded, my own built camroom). But I have a new computer now so I'm good to go to make clips and ppl can buy and view them directly from my site.

    Ladies. Good luck in your Gold Club ventures. I wish you all the best, but I'm leaving out of this thread. Later days!

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    I got offered one of these too... I am thinking about doing it but I wonder if you get 75% of the sales if people join through your link? I guess I will email and ask them... wish it didn't take like 3 days for them to get back to me all the time.

    I figure 35% isn't exactly horrible because unless you have massive amounts of your own traffic you pretty much have to join a website network where they do your site and host it and send traffic to it and those places charge 50% anyways so you are paying 15% more for SM to do this and SM has oodles of traffic. I make a shit load of content anyways so it's not extra work for me at all.

    I wish more people had input on how many guys joined it and whatnot. I hate jumping in to stuff like this blindly.

    I was also thinking that since I sell my stuff on C4S already I hope that having a gold club wouldn't cut down on the number of sales I get from C4S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    I asked SM about the Gold Club feature and they responded to me quickly telling me they would love if I tried out this "new feature". Not sure how new it is but anyway, I was wondering for those of you that have the Gold Club:

    What do you charge for membership?
    What discount do you give for shows?
    How much content do you upload? Do you add new stuff monthly/weekly/never?

    I had my own solo model pay site before I had my kids, and my hubby runs several solo model sites, so I know how traditional sites like that go, but I'm not sure what members expect in this kind of format.

    Suggestions?
    You might as well just have a paysite. At least you could keep your customers once streamate starts dying down & custys move to the next big site.

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    So aperantly i have a Gold Cub now! Hahaha. They changed their mind and gave me one all of a sudden. But their requirements are insane. Before you can launch it you need. 3 blog posts, 5 videos and 50 pics. Now if u charge $20/month. And only making $7 off of that that's $7 for their unlimited access to all your shit! You then have to keep adding content every week for it to stay open.

    Now on the other hand I have my own website where I can upload the same content, but charge $5/5 min video. PER VIEW! The SM Gold Club suddenly seems like corporate ass rape doesn't it???
    So no, I don't have a huge following for my site. But I feel better just posting it in my own site and making a % that I can respect myself for. I'm not about to give away ALL OF THAT for $7 a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arialandre View Post
    So aperantly i have a Gold Cub now! Hahaha. They changed their mind and gave me one all of a sudden. But their requirements are insane. Before you can launch it you need. 3 blog posts, 5 virus and 50 pics. Now if u charge $20/month. And only making $7 off of that that's $7 for their unlimited access to all your shit! You then have to keep adding content every week for it to stay open.

    Now on the other hand I have my own website where I can upload the same content, but charge $5/5 min video. PER VIEW! The SM Gold Club suddenly seems like corporate ass rape doesn't it???
    So no, I don't have a huge following for my site. But I feel better just posting it in my own site and making a % that I can respect myself for. I'm not about to give away ALL OF THAT for $7 a month.
    That seems horrible but in hindsight it is really not. I used to have a fairly successful members site on a network and I received 50% and the webmaster got the other 50%.... but then most of the sales and traffic came from affiliates so they received 50% off the top, then me and the webmaster would split the other 50% which netted both of us about 6$ a piece for a 30 day membership to my site which had like 20,000 pictures and over 150 full length xxx videos.

    If you can do a members site on your own and push tons of traffic without a webmaster then ofcourse that would be better but the reality of it is, membership sites are quickly dying so 7$ is better than 0$ in most cases

    I am still debating whether I want to do this or not. I don't have a members site anymore besides some niche stuff, I only sale my vids on c4s but I don't want to cut in to my c4s profits either.

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    I think that is pretty sweet actually, considering Streamate covers chargebacks and legal aspects, so there's no worry on that, which covers up most of the headache of opening up a site. The only thing is though, I have oodles of content with me and my best friend, 3ways, etc. . and I do not think that would be allowed. But if you think about it, those that have a real paysite do not get all that profit anyway, just like the previous post stated. If there was a large volume, say, is it really possible to have 100+ members a month? Because if so, that is about 800 dollars extra in your pocket. You could buy a domain name that redirects to your gold club, and it would kind of like having a paysite. Hm. . .

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    Ok well here is how MY site works.

    First of all I don't have the typical members site. My site is free to join. It also has it's own pay-per-minute cam room built right into in. Guys can sign up for free and talk to me on camera and if they want to go group or private they buy tokens. Everything I offer can be bought with tokens.
    Videos are individually priced. Because there is no re-occuring monthly payments my fans can purchase the vids they want to watch when they want to watch them.

    I have two payment processors, the main one and a backup in case the first one doesn't work for any reason.

    I make 70% of all sales. If a guy spends $100 then I get $70. Out of the remaining 30% about 15% goes to payment processors. The other 15% goes to my webmaster to cover things like bandwith, tech support, customer service and unlimited website re-writes. If I want something on my site and he feels he can create it then he will do it for me. He also made my site for FREE.

    I also don't have anyone skimming off the top of my money. You didn't make 50% you made 25%. I make 70%

    You made $6/month offering 20,000 pics and 150 full length vids. Some of us charge $6 per MINUTE on a SINGLE cam show, and for indy shows you can get up to 99% of that. There is NO WAY I could sit here and tell these ladies that that's "not that bad" when obviously there are much better ways to go about it. I just couldn't tell a person to give away so much of themselves for so little. That's completely mind boggling to me.

    I know members sites are dieing out, and that's why I don't have the traditional site. I'm working on something new, different and hopefully better.

    I hope this post doesn't come off like I'm all up in your face about your old site and if I come off that way I'm very sorry. But I just couldn't let these ladies think that your options are either
    A) Have a webmaster and make 25%
    OR
    B) Have no webmaster and make more

    When you have C

    C) Have a kick ass webmaster and make 70%

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPinkCupcake View Post
    I think that is pretty sweet actually, considering Streamate covers chargebacks and legal aspects, so there's no worry on that, which covers up most of the headache of opening up a site. The only thing is though, I have oodles of content with me and my best friend, 3ways, etc. . and I do not think that would be allowed. But if you think about it, those that have a real paysite do not get all that profit anyway, just like the previous post stated. If there was a large volume, say, is it really possible to have 100+ members a month? Because if so, that is about 800 dollars extra in your pocket. You could buy a domain name that redirects to your gold club, and it would kind of like having a paysite. Hm. . .
    I don't feel like it's worth it. Not for $7 a piece just so they can watch it all over and over AND pirate my videos. I'll bet we can't watermark what we upload. And $800... You wouldn't be making that kind of money UNLESS you had that many members.

    I'd rather have guys buy each video individually at $5-$20...I keep 65%-70% of that right now... or PPV. I make more money off of doing that atm.







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    ^Exactly

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    I haven't done anything with mine either. I don't feel like it's worth the time it would take.
    xoxo ~ Sarah




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    Quote Originally Posted by TXCamgirl View Post
    I was also thinking that since I sell my stuff on C4S already I hope that having a gold club wouldn't cut down on the number of sales I get from C4S.
    No, not at all. C4S guys are looking for fetish content. Most SM guys are looking for porn. Two separate things.

    But if you are worried about having one video in multiple places. I do that with all of my content. Right now I'm selling at 3 different sites, I plan on expanding to 6 this December. All it does is up my income.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Arialandre View Post


    I know members sites are dieing out, and that's why I don't have the traditional site. I'm working on something new, different and hopefully better.

    I hope this post doesn't come off like I'm all up in your face about your old site and if I come off that way I'm very sorry. But I just couldn't let these ladies think that your options are either
    A) Have a webmaster and make 25%
    OR
    B) Have no webmaster and make more

    When you have C

    C) Have a kick ass webmaster and make 70%
    That is all very true, actually. Members sites ARE dying out pretty quick. . and that business plan seems a LOT better in my eyes. Something else I didn't think of. . they totally OWN all that content *foreverrrrr* OK, nevermind, the appeal is now gone. Haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPinkCupcake View Post
    That is all very true, actually. Members sites ARE dying out pretty quick. . and that business plan seems a LOT better in my eyes. Something else I didn't think of. . they totally OWN all that content *foreverrrrr* OK, nevermind, the appeal is now gone. Haha.
    That just clicked for me now that you brought that up. HAAAHAA. No thanks, Streamate!







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    No wonder they want you to upload so much of it before it even launches, then keep uploading a lot every week in order to keep it open. If you down meet the upload requirements they will shut down your Gold Club but keep all your content to do with as they please.

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    i think that this gold club is great way to help build up regs. if ur main camsite is SM, why not take advantage of this feature? they pay a monthly membership to pretty much keep in contact with you when ur not online/onsite (which helps keep them loyal to you) and it makes them feel special getting a discount off of ur camshows also. At a minimum to launch your Gold Club, you will need to have approved content to include at least 5 diary entries, at least 3 photo albums (no less than 50 photos in total), and 5 video recordings. the minimum requirements to keep Gold Club running are: 3 diary entries per week, 1 video recording per week and 1 photo album with at least 5 photos every 2 weeks. that's not bad at all. plus this will help keep me motivated too. i just got mine activated and will be adding content this week.
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    I think that GC will work great for ppl that don't have their own site to do all of this with already.

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    SM would own all of the content one uploads to the gold club? Where does it say this at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXCamgirl View Post
    SM would own all of the content one uploads to the gold club? Where does it say this at?
    I'm sure it's in the contract yet again once you sign up (I don't have one yet), but every single thing you transmit through their servers is theirs anyway. You agree to that when you first sign up and I'm sure that includes uploaded content.


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    Did they say anything about watermarking? I asked them to enable the partner account I have with them on my voyeur cam account so I can sell memberships to my site on there also. But they can't link accounts.

    But it would be awesome if I could add the Gold club to that account, if I can use my watermark.

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    This seems worthwhile to me right now..

    Just need to get some vids uploaded so they'll consider me.. loads of pics uploaded to SM.. just no vids yet..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BellaBellini View Post
    Did they say anything about watermarking? I asked them to enable the partner account I have with them on my voyeur cam account so I can sell memberships to my site on there also. But they can't link accounts.

    But it would be awesome if I could add the Gold club to that account, if I can use my watermark.
    I already asked them this question and they told me that I would have to enable the gold club then upload a watermarked video and just wait and see if the gold club specialist approve it or not. The person who replied to me said they did not know anything about watermarks and apparently couldn't find out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXCamgirl View Post
    I already asked them this question and they told me that I would have to enable the gold club then upload a watermarked video and just wait and see if the gold club specialist approve it or not. The person who replied to me said they did not know anything about watermarks and apparently couldn't find out?
    Man.

    I run into this type thing over and over with Streamate. For a site that makes that much money they really need to get their act together with their support system.


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    any updates on this? does anyone have over 30 fans?

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