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    First off, I don't mind helping others at all, but a brick wall needs to be built at some point!!!

    When I frequented SW back in 2004-06, it was members only. Nothing was viewable to non-members. I recently found the camming connection, only because I re-visited the site after many years, and by chance I was camming at the time.

    Camming hasn't always been a section of SW. But since I re-joined, I have noticed that when you google random camming info, stripperweb is top of Google searches. Why is that? Because too much info is openly available to anyone here, and the web crawlers pick up on that.

    WHY is SW not a private community?????

    I just don't believe any and all info should be publicly viewable to everyone. And I honestly don't mean to come off like a bitch, but when it comes to some topics, the girls need to go out and bust their asses in research and experimentation, to learn about how to be successful as a camgirl on their own. Why should experienced camgirls freely give all of thier tricks of the trade up to just anyone passing by?

    I have much info to share, but I wish there was a place I could share it privately with other experienced models, and not just everyday wanna-be's who go and screw everything up for us.

    Many girls do NOT try to learn the trick of the trade before venturing off in cam-land thinking men will take them to private if they are sitting there naked.

    LOL if a smile and a naked body was all it took, we would ALL be rich!!!!!

    I share some things, but I know where to draw the line here. While relaying some info can be useful, displaying every trick of the trade is not wise at all.

    Is it really necessary to keep feeding our knowledge to just ANYONE who wishes to eat up our resources and livelyhood? When word keeps catching on, just let the money keep flowing out of our pockets.

    There is not enough traffic to keep up the overwhelming amount of new camgirls lately. Open vast information such as what is publicly displayed on this site is only going to make it worse.

    I have been camming for 4 years. I learned EVERYTHING the hard way, My persistence and desire of wanting to successfully pursue this intriguing job kept me going. And every day I still learn something new.

    I have even joined other forums in the past, but I never seen as much open vast information as I have found on this site. I re-joined SW only 3-4 months ago, so that should tell you something. Yet, I appreciate the info shared, as I am a seasoned model. For the lurkers, we are playing a different game.

    WAY too much info is leaked on this site. Thousands of aspiring cam models find this site daily. Most probably read "the best sites to join" and "the best times of day to cam", etc. and never join to contribute. But they all run and join our sites, not because they read forums thoroughly, but because they skimmed over a few threads based on the best sites to join.

    Well, there you have it. They are there fucking themselves for pennies, while we are really working and not seeing any profit. That is the girls we are training for free.

    This is lose/lose because new girl's rent is due and after a week goes by she finds out that she made 5.00 after spending 30 hours on cam showing her puss for pennies. she has made pocket change. She quits.

    What is wrong here, is those girls like that don't come to forums like this and offer advice, based on their downfalls. They leave camming and never come back. But there are many more of those girls Googling. Then, multiply that by 1,000's weekly and then try to figure out where your traffic is going.

    There are many successful girls who frequent this site and contribute. But think about how this is all spiralling out of control? The camgirl trade is at it's peak if we don't pull together and stop essentially recruiting and easily educating every being that signs a performer agreement and flocks to this site.

    I am a member of a few sites in which require your Cam Stage Name, and which site you work for, as well as other information before you can join and have access to the information on the forum.

    As for the vast information that this site contains, it should be private in some way.


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    Default Re: This site should be private!!!!

    If you're that concerned don't write about yourself on public sites. ? It's completely optional.

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    Hi Lusty,

    I have been emailing someone about this today. There is a "members only" forum on this site that some of us belong to. I think you have to have over 200 posts. But even there no one is verified. I wish there was a way we could get verified because I would definitely share a lot more information than I do.

    There are sooooo many lurkers here. I know a lot are cam customers and cam girls looking for info without contributing. But there are also some shady "camgirls" on here with multiple aliases. These "camgirls" freak me out more than the lurkers.

    I wish that some of us that could verify our idenities could get together and prove who we are so that we could share openly. I would love it. Even if it was only 3 or 4 members who were continually positive and could prove their idenity...man, that would be amazing!!!

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    Default Re: This site should be private!!!!

    I agree LAChloe!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinaida View Post
    If you're that concerned don't write about yourself on public sites. ? It's completely optional.
    I'm not writing about me, I am writing about all of us. Paying attention to trends and excessive membership count is just as important as following statistics of any other business. I am giving heads up to those who depend on and take their businesses seriously.

    If you opened a restaurant on a street with no competition, and offered a unique relaxed location and cuisine, would you encourage everyone else to open restaurants in every vacant building and corner on the same street and surrounding streets?

    Would you finance their businesses?

    Would you offer free business start up advice and give everyone in the neighborhood tips on how your restaurant is booming lavishly? Even though they are your competition?

    I would hope not. Offering help to some is great, but giving everyone a free slice of the pie is not good.
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    Default Re: This site should be private!!!!

    I agree 100%.

    This has been discussed before and I think the reason that was concluded was that a lot of girls did not want to leave StripperWeb?

    There is A LOT of spoon feeding going on in this forum. Camming times and which site is the best shouldn't be what we're responding too. All of that is subjective.

    All you need to say is, "Here's the list of non-scam, legit cam sites. Here are the stats and payout percentages. Pick one and go for it." And, "Just try a different schedule and see what times work best for you."

    We go round-and-round saying how this is a business - it is! It's also a self startup buisness. Independent. Solo. What's it take? Effort, time, experimentation, promo, and face time.

    If you wanted to go out into the world and start your own burger joint no one is going to go out and hold your hand telling you where the best location is, or what prices you should offer or what kind of food you should offer.


    The amount of SM threads is absolutely ridiculous. Ya'll wonder why there's a huge traffic slump and WHY your earnings have been cut in half?? I've read through it. LOOK at all of the complaining! "I used to make $100 in 2 hours. Now I make that in 6..." etc.

    Because 15,000 people have been reading it. (Waaaayyy too many people IMO) But I'm sure thats not the reason. I'm sure it's just the summer slump. Riiiight. When there's a couple thousand girls on at a time it's kind of hard to equalize all of the customers. And even harder when you're fighting for a top spot.







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    Default Re: This site should be private!!!!

    I see NOTHING wrong with a private forum where you have to verify to read or post. If you're too lazy to verify yourself than you have no business even signing up for a cam site.







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    I agree. Maybe when someone asks a money/shift related question we could all respond with a generic answer OR send them a PM.

    There is soooooo much info on this site already. All someone has to do is research. I spent months researching before I got on cam. I still spend hours researching. I am researching right now some things about C4S.

    This isn't to say we shouldn't offer support/help to each other. But to just freely answer questions about how much money is being made and traffic at certain times really should stop.

    I know I made a decision to stop posting in the SM traffic post. I have to put all my makeup on and get dressed and sit there for an hour to realize it is dead-but someone can just log on and see the traffic and decide whether or not it is worth it. No thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAChloe View Post
    I agree. Maybe when someone asks a money/shift related question we could all respond with a generic answer OR send them a PM.

    There is soooooo much info on this site already. All someone has to do is research. I spent months researching before I got on cam. I still spend hours researching. I am researching right now some things about C4S.

    This isn't to say we shouldn't offer support/help to each other. But to just freely answer questions about how much money is being made and traffic at certain times really should stop.

    I know I made a decision to stop posting in the SM traffic post. I have to put all my makeup on and get dressed and sit there for an hour to realize it is dead-but someone can just log on and see the traffic and decide whether or not it is worth it. No thanks!

    I feel ya girl!! I will be there in support for a camgirl any day if she is working in her own effort.. but I'm not voluntarily giving away the goodies of the trade to just anyone. We work toooooooo hard for that!

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    I agree and disagree..
    I agree: yes more girls signing up on the "good" sites will make it harder and harder for the rest of us (oldies lol ) to make $. the amount of wealth is limited...and the amount of girls keeps increasing.... No matter how cute, sweet, sexy, and top notch you and your shows are... when new faces come around, your members will check them out and they just might stop visiting you and start visiting them.........

    I diagree: most of the instructions on how to start in this business and what to do are right on the website where you sign up. Any 6 year old would probably get that. Thats easy. Plug your webcam in and go to town.... On top of this.. most sites have free chatrooms... free public shows.(MFC)..... in your face countdowns...( SM).. Its not that hard to do the math. its not that hard to put 2 and 2 together. So if someone wants to start up they will, with or without the help on this forum or other forums.
    The more transparent the sites are with what amounts of $ girls make...the more people will join. It used to be that we only had privates on these sites and we could not really tell how much the other girls are making... now we know, without asking anyone....
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    And can someone tell me why am I not working as much as I should?
    I have all the info in the world. whats stopping me? Answer is : Me!

    It all boils down to one;s effort.
    No effort? No good money.
    Its simple as that.

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    Yeah, girls. And did MissEgo write out that 'Starting Place For Cam-girls' thread for nothing? That has ALL the info someone needs to start out. From there it's your own damn hustle. She even has the 'Streamate' "AdultWork' & 'MyFreeCams' threads in her signature. Anything past those sites I am pretty positive you can find if you do a search.

    Why are we regurgitating info that someone was too lazy to even read??? It's a fucking sticky.

    Any more of these 'MFC help meeee' 'which site is the best' 'how much do you make and on what site' threads need to just be ignored. They can't be bothered to look and read anyway so they shouldn't get anything from us.







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    I agree LAChloe. It's obvious not to post specific questions or as a dancer (giving out very specific issues or names linked to one's club).

    Regarding verification, but I only know people are for real on here when a member either PM's me or has a link to their twitter/adultsite/camsite etc. If I have seen them on cam, esp./obviously I know they're for real. I don't know how the site would enable a verification to "members-only" option but that would be ideal. Hell, even if we have to pitch in a yearly subscription fee or something just to fund something like that (or at least lose the angry troll infestations). // Just A Thought.

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    lol Lusty..
    I started a tread.... for the newbies....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhxRising View Post
    I agree LAChloe. It's obvious not to post specific questions or as a dancer (giving out very specific issues or names linked to one's club).

    Regarding verification, but I only know people are for real on here when a member either PM's me or has a link to their twitter/adultsite/camsite etc. If I have seen them on cam, esp./obviously I know they're for real. I don't know how the site would enable a verification to "members-only" option but that would be ideal. Hell, even if we have to pitch in a yearly subscription fee or something just to fund something like that (or at least lose the angry troll infestations). // Just A Thought.
    People fake personas though (re: link to twitter, camsite, avatar pictures) and will take over camgirls who don't have much of a social networking presence or who haven't signed in in awhile/left the business. Sometimes you have to look really carefully at people's signatures and research them. There are glaring examples of people who have links to the real them but their twitter is spam or links nowhere in particular or uses pics of cam girls who are known to have left the business. A link to a site or picture is not enough, people steal that kind of thing + picture steal regularly.

    Id totally pay for a yearly subscription if it is member verified in a way that is hard-to-impossible to wiggle around from (ie, skype). The bandwidth cost for this site must be ridiculous. If the yearly subscription pays someone reliable, reputable and verified to do do some of the verifications, I'd contribute. The existing CC & OW mods seem like great choices.

    I know campaigns like this come up every so often but Im sure those of us who heavily use the site, are experienced and current, are flabbergasted at the lurkers/multiple personas, etc. would chip in and would not hesitate to go through a strong verification process if they knew everyone else was being rigorously verified as well.

    Somewhat on topic, AngelCumming's post on New Girls & Common Courtesy is great - http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=156562 , but OP I hear where you're coming from





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    Quote Originally Posted by PhxRising View Post
    I agree LAChloe. It's obvious not to post specific questions or as a dancer (giving out very specific issues or names linked to one's club).

    Regarding verification, but I only know people are for real on here when a member either PM's me or has a link to their twitter/adultsite/camsite etc. If I have seen them on cam, esp./obviously I know they're for real. I don't know how the site would enable a verification to "members-only" option but that would be ideal. Hell, even if we have to pitch in a yearly subscription fee or something just to fund something like that (or at least lose the angry troll infestations). // Just A Thought.

    I just want to say that I love SW and without it I would have never, ever danced or gotten on cam. Honestly. I have made a lot of money bc of SW. This board really is a goldmine.

    No matter what I will always read/post on it.

    However, there are somethings that I would feel better about posting in private where I knew that all the members were actively working on cam in some type of capacity.

    Here is the thing. When I am talking about money, I want to know who I am sharing it with. I want to know that they really are a performer and not some sick, emotionally unstable person posing as different camgirls. (Cough, cough)
    BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF THIS GOING ON HERE AND IT'S CREEPY!!!!!

    Everything else- the fetishes, the logistics of camming, the makeup, the customers, etc. I'll talk about these things with anyone and anywhere!!!

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    I have to agree with most of the posts here. I don't mind helping someone new out, but as stated, MissEgo does have a pretty informative sticky with lots of advise, and today is like the umpteenth time I answered a newbies question and volunteered info that maybe I shouldn't have, and can't even get a Thank You? LOL It's all good.

    This site has too much info to spoon feed, and coddle. Not to mention the fact that we have so many threads praising certain sites. Lurkers are here all day and soaking in so many valuable tips.

    Anyway, I will not be replying to anymore obvious questions, that already have answers on like 100 threads lol.

    *Not trying to be mean to any new people. Just stating there is a sticky at the very top of the camming section. Read it. It will help you tremendously*
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaydenBlue View Post
    I see NOTHING wrong with a private forum where you have to verify to read or post. If you're too lazy to verify yourself than you have no business even signing up for a cam site.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lusty Laken View Post
    I feel ya girl!! I will be there in support for a camgirl any day if she is working in her own effort.. but I'm not voluntarily giving away the goodies of the trade to just anyone. We work toooooooo hard for that!
    Quote Originally Posted by BustyAmeera View Post
    I have to agree with most of the posts here. I don't mind helping someone new out, but as stated, MissEgo does have a pretty informative sticky with lots of advise, and today is like the umpteenth time I answered a newbies question and volunteered info that maybe I shouldn't have, and can't even get a Thank You? LOL It's all good.

    This site has too much info to spoon feed, and coddle. Not to mention the fact that we have so many threads praising certain sites. Lurkers are here all day and soaking in so many valuable tips.

    Anyway, I will not be replying to anymore obvious questions, that already have answers on like 100 threads lol.

    *Not trying to be mean to any new people. Just stating there is a sticky at the very top of the camming section. Read it. It will help you tremendously*
    Quote Originally Posted by roast View Post
    People fake personas though (re: link to twitter, camsite, avatar pictures) and will take over camgirls who don't have much of a social networking presence or who haven't signed in in awhile/left the business. Sometimes you have to look really carefully at people's signatures and research them. There are glaring examples of people who have links to the real them but their twitter is spam or links nowhere in particular or uses pics of cam girls who are known to have left the business. A link to a site or picture is not enough, people steal that kind of thing + picture steal regularly.

    Id totally pay for a yearly subscription if it is member verified in a way that is hard-to-impossible to wiggle around from (ie, skype). The bandwidth cost for this site must be ridiculous. If the yearly subscription pays someone reliable, reputable and verified to do do some of the verifications, I'd contribute. The existing CC & OW mods seem like great choices.

    I know campaigns like this come up every so often but Im sure those of us who heavily use the site, are experienced and current, are flabbergasted at the lurkers/multiple personas, etc. would chip in and would not hesitate to go through a strong verification process if they knew everyone else was being rigorously verified as well.

    Somewhat on topic, AngelCumming's post on New Girls & Common Courtesy is great - http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=156562 , but OP I hear where you're coming from
    You're right, girl! There needs to be a really difficult verification process that includes skype and links to cam personas. We can leave the whole site open, but have one part that is members verified where we can post things we don't want everyone to see.

    This really is a brillant idea, Roast. Everyone wins. SW makes money and we have a sense of security.

    I would totally pay a subscription. This place is worth it's weight in gold!

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    i would pay for a subscription as well i've learned a lot on this board (i guess judging from this thread that could be good or bad? ha) & hopefully helped other girls learn too. i love the community feel of SW & i'd definitely be there if CC turns private.

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    Great idea. I would also pay a yearly subscription, and would not mind verifying that I am a real webcam model (In a paid members only section), with REAL links to prove it. Of course anyone can provide a link, but further verification would likely be needed.

    If this did ever happen, I would hope that nobody would pay a subscription and then start using models info against them in an argument. I have seen that in the past on here. That is the main reason i choose to not use my cam names on this particular forum.

    So of course there would have to be strict rules for a locked and paid member section. If you ever use a members information against them in a malicious way, you will be banned permanently, even if you paid for that membership.

    A platform such as this, with strict rules, that should be common sense anyway, would make for a great and peaceful community, where like minded people in the industry can get together.
    Taking a break from all unproductive shit will prove to be the best choice you can make.

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    Before I decided to start camming, I researched the hell out of every cam site imaginable. I then signed up for every cam site that I felt 'fit' me. After a couple of months, I narrowed it down to my top favorites and the rest is history. I am saying this because doing your OWN research is so much more valuable than just taking someone's 'word for it'.

    I also want to add that there have been a few ladies on SW who have been so kind to me when I sent them a PM about any questions that I had. I am very appreciative of them for helping me out, because they could have just as easily ignored me. The thing is though, I always make sure I do my own research before I ask for help; if for some reason I can't find the answer, then I will PM someone from here who I think might be able to help me; BUT, when I ask them for help I present them with my own research first and then ask my question...just so they know that I am not a freeloader looking for a handout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusty Laken View Post
    First off, I don't mind helping others at all, but a brick wall needs to be built at some point!!!

    When I frequented SW back in 2004-06, it was members only. Nothing was viewable to non-members. I recently found the camming connection, only because I re-visited the site after many years, and by chance I was camming at the time.

    Camming hasn't always been a section of SW. But since I re-joined, I have noticed that when you google random camming info, stripperweb is top of Google searches. Why is that? Because too much info is openly available to anyone here, and the web crawlers pick up on that.

    WHY is SW not a private community?????

    I just don't believe any and all info should be publicly viewable to everyone. And I honestly don't mean to come off like a bitch, but when it comes to some topics, the girls need to go out and bust their asses in research and experimentation, to learn about how to be successful as a camgirl on their own. Why should experienced camgirls freely give all of thier tricks of the trade up to just anyone passing by?

    I have much info to share, but I wish there was a place I could share it privately with other experienced models, and not just everyday wanna-be's who go and screw everything up for us.

    Many girls do NOT try to learn the trick of the trade before venturing off in cam-land thinking men will take them to private if they are sitting there naked.

    LOL if a smile and a naked body was all it took, we would ALL be rich!!!!!

    I share some things, but I know where to draw the line here. While relaying some info can be useful, displaying every trick of the trade is not wise at all.

    Is it really necessary to keep feeding our knowledge to just ANYONE who wishes to eat up our resources and livelyhood? When word keeps catching on, just let the money keep flowing out of our pockets.

    There is not enough traffic to keep up the overwhelming amount of new camgirls lately. Open vast information such as what is publicly displayed on this site is only going to make it worse.

    I have been camming for 4 years. I learned EVERYTHING the hard way, My persistence and desire of wanting to successfully pursue this intriguing job kept me going. And every day I still learn something new.

    I have even joined other forums in the past, but I never seen as much open vast information as I have found on this site. I re-joined SW only 3-4 months ago, so that should tell you something. Yet, I appreciate the info shared, as I am a seasoned model. For the lurkers, we are playing a different game.

    WAY too much info is leaked on this site. Thousands of aspiring cam models find this site daily. Most probably read "the best sites to join" and "the best times of day to cam", etc. and never join to contribute. But they all run and join our sites, not because they read forums thoroughly, but because they skimmed over a few threads based on the best sites to join.

    Well, there you have it. They are there fucking themselves for pennies, while we are really working and not seeing any profit. That is the girls we are training for free.

    This is lose/lose because new girl's rent is due and after a week goes by she finds out that she made 5.00 after spending 30 hours on cam showing her puss for pennies. she has made pocket change. She quits.

    What is wrong here, is those girls like that don't come to forums like this and offer advice, based on their downfalls. They leave camming and never come back. But there are many more of those girls Googling. Then, multiply that by 1,000's weekly and then try to figure out where your traffic is going.

    There are many successful girls who frequent this site and contribute. But think about how this is all spiralling out of control? The camgirl trade is at it's peak if we don't pull together and stop essentially recruiting and easily educating every being that signs a performer agreement and flocks to this site.

    I am a member of a few sites in which require your Cam Stage Name, and which site you work for, as well as other information before you can join and have access to the information on the forum.

    As for the vast information that this site contains, it should be private in some way.
    Im happy i learned the things i did here and you do have a point...i dont want a bunch of scammer and hacker on here but i would be a hypocrite when i say to stop helping i dont come here just for advice but to talk to girls that understand what im going through! since this is a secret from my fam and friends coming here is an outlet for me in most ways

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    Default Re: This site should be private!!!!

    I agree about the subcription! so how do we make this private? I what petition do i have to sign? lol

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    Default Re: This site should be private!!!!

    Not much to add other than I agree with just about everything. I would pay a subscription and would be more than happy to verify my identity. I learned camming on my own, ddin't find this site until after I found my groove. And I think I'm a better camgirl for it

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    Default Re: This site should be private!!!!

    I'm all for a subscription too. I'd be more than happy to pay. Great idea!

    But instead of just talking about it like we did in the last, 'we need to make SW private' thread - how about we do something?







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    Default Re: This site should be private!!!!

    ^Djoser runs the site, correct? Do we know who is the person behind the StripperWeb name that puts mods in place?

    A buy in first from mods would be a useful start

    There are two forums that I pay membership for special privileges, they range $2-5 a month (usually auto-renewed). Does that amount sound feasible for special registration? If we take the private cam girls group of people who are current members - that is 24... so if we guess that that number is how many people would pay:

    1. to be verified
    2. for a locked arm of the forum, let us say max $5 monthly, that'd be ~$1400 annually which is a significant amount of money to create that part of the site, pay a small stipend to the mods for doing verification and monitoring, pay for enhanced security, plus support the site's bandwidth.

    (I support stipending the mods for verification since it takes time & we'd want it to be thorough + we're basically paying them for their silence)

    Where the rest of the $ goes, Im not sure, money to convince the powers that be that this would be important to prioritize?

    A proposal could be drafted easily. I know a number of us would pay the subscription in full upfront (we shouldn't expect this of everyone - we could offer different pay structures) to get it going.

    Or am I being crass by assuming that money would get this rolling?

    Buy in from the people in charge of the site, then overseeing the forums would be helpful. If they have feedback on how feasible thi is with how the site is set up that'd be great - and if payment could even be built into the site's infrastructure to make billing easy and simple that'd help

    Or is even having this as an idea somehow in opposition to the thinking behind why these forums were originally created? Do the powers that be want these forums to have a free & open information kind of feel or... or no


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