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    Thumbs down Secret Friends.

    All I can say is..don't do it. I signed up with a studio and Secret Friends was my first real job as a cam model. All you will get all the time is e-mails from the HR person telling you that your ratings are low and you need to work on it. How am I supposed to work on my ratings when there is SERIOUSLY no traffic? I was bored to death, and couldn't help but be annoyed when somebody came into my room. You want me to do what for 8$ an hour? Haha! Nexxxxt.

    This is a good site for starting out models..they jack your money though!


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    never heard of the site till now. thanks.

    Sell pics/vids+hourly contest+tips!

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    exactly, lol.

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    Lol, I worked for them for a while...not all of the facts are presented here so maybe I can add some more info to this - I will try to be as non-biased as possible, and list some of the pros and cons:

    Pros: Very professional and legit network. The support will answer your questions promptly and thoroughly, and give girls who are new to this industry lots of tips
    - The pay is weekly by check, and always on time
    - Guys can give you tips in addition to your hourly rate, and you keep 100 percent of them! Most other camsites take a cut of your tips, so I liked this feature because it drastically increased my hourly rate
    - Not as many girls on the site, so not as much competition
    - GUARANTEED hourly income - a good thing for starting girls, you get minimum 8 dollars an hour plus tips, maximum 24 dollars an hour plus tips depending on how many guys come into your room and for how long.
    - If you work for 40 hours a week you will get 20 dollars an hour minimum plus tips, instead of the 8 dollars an hour minimum.
    - You don't have to get nude, and you can still make money there as a non-nude model.
    - Native English speakers have a slight advantage, a lot of the girls are from Russian studios and have trouble communicating with the guys
    - Bonuses if you work on holidays
    Cons:
    - Check is the only payment option (unless they've changed it)
    - They are extremely picky. No BBWs, and they have an age limit. There isn't a lot of diversity on the network... they are looking for the young, slender to slightly curvy girl-next-door look, and I've known some really great camgirls who have gotten rejected solely based on their looks or their age :/ .
    - You have to keep a strict schedule, and you have to keep your ratings up. You will be fired if you can't do this, which isn't in your control due to the traffic. It's kind of about luck. So you're kind of under the same pressure you would normally be under at a "vanilla" job ha
    - You have to do shifts of at least 6 hours! This is the reason I quit. You only get a 15 minute break in that time period and they are very meticulous about making sure you adhere to the shifts, like down to the second. It can get boring to sit on your ass for 6 hours and having to fake a smile and act horny for that long pretty much non-stop... It gets old, fast. Trust me.
    - Guys can see you if you get naked without coming into your room - they get a three minute "free-view" (I think I just came up with a new word lol) which, as we all know.... Is more than enough jack off material for the minute men
    - Unpredictable traffic.


    This site isn't for everyone. It wasn't for me, but while I was there I did well and I can assure you I was making much more than 8 dollars an hour haha. However, the shifts and the tight leash they keep on you, your time, and your freedom wasn't worth it for me - but that doesn't mean they are an illegitimate site

    Some tips for girls who decide to work there:

    - The giggly, shy, "bimbo" act works there - fetish doesn't do as well (such as, domination, cuckold, sph, etc.) so keep that in mind if you're a fetish model.
    - Play music!!! Dance around! Be engaged - talk to the guys to lure them into your room. I was able to keep several guys in my room at a time by doing this But looking bored will get you minimum wage.
    - Try to make a personal connection with the guys who come into your room. Take notes - they will be impressed if you remember there name, where they're from, etc. and it will keep them coming back!
    - Traffic is slower during nighttime, generally busier during the early morning hours
    - ENERGY DRINKS!!!

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    I never said they were an illegitimate site. All I was hinting at is that it bore me to death. And BBW's? I've seen plenty on that site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poconojudas View Post
    I never said they were an illegitimate site. All I was hinting at is that it bore me to death. And BBW's? I've seen plenty on that site.
    Where? lol

    Maybe you don't understand the definition of BBW There are some girls that have curves but there aren't really any BBWs on the site. Anyway, wasn't trying to say that you said it was illegitimate - I just wanted to present the good and the bad in a more comprehensive way so that any girls who haven't heard of the site before can make a more informed decision

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    Oh my, I got fired from that site!! I agree with poconojudas, I got total 3 e mails from management ( 2 of them with screen shots of my cam) and it seems they choose the worst moments to take the pics...haha
    1) saying i looked like i just got out of bed, I used make up like 4 days in a row and the way i wasn t weary any or very lil they took the pic..( I admit it)
    So I started wearing more make up every day, then I got another e mail ( no pics this time) saying my % was still low, bla bla

    I finally got a 3rd e mail ( I got upset with this one) with more pics ( I was wearing make up) and saying I had to wear more " dramatic make up" and do my hair even more......
    I was soooo fed up by that time that a couple days after a guy came in to my room ( he was pretty much of a jerk) and since i saw things weren t impproving ( even tough i was wearing top quality make up and nice lingerie) that i told him that i was gonna leave, he said " why r u pregnant??? and i said " no , there s just better places to work for....... ohhhhhhhhhhhh
    Big mistake, i m sure they spyed on my site where i always post my weekly schedule and saw certain day was gonna be my last one , then checked the chat logs, saw that, and that same day, after being logged in 10 mins i got disconnected and my account deactivated......
    But yes they always paid me on time.

    I also told them the system they have is not fair to the models ( because hey, let s be honest..., is it fair to be on line 6 hours in a row, a guy comes in for an hr, i play with myself for an hr, needless to say that s painful....ouch...lol and i still make 8 an hr????? cause the chat % is low??? nah that s not fair...
    Like one girl told me here, you get 100 guys watching ( when u r giving a show) and nobody wanna pay to enter the chat since if someone else does, they get at least 3 mins preview.....

    Oh and Angel, if u work 40 hours , they don t pay u 20 or even 10, i worked 40 hours x week and I still got paid 8 an hr cause I wasn ' t making enough chat %....

    Anyways I wanted to tell my experience with that site,

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    I am new to stripperfriends, and I started yesterday, I am not new to camming though, I have been on mfc a few years, and just signed up for streamates before I heard of stripper friends. What are good times to work, I think I saw you post early morning, but around what time usually? Yesterday I did quite well averaging $20 an hour, but I signed out to go to the bathroom for a few minutes, came back online for my last two hours and it was pretty much dead. So my percentage went from 116.11 before the break down to 69.34. Today I am working an odd schedule 4am-10 am because I have to go to my reg part time job at 1030, I am a receptionist. Anyways you had pretty good tips, but how did you get people in your room? I mean yesterday wasn't too bad, but I am actually on right now going on two hours straight, and I have only had one person come in to stay in a chat with me and left lol. Also what do you do in your shows on here? I know you can't pee or poo, but I have my toy, and I have been using that at times. Did you do the same? Thanks for your help

    p.s. what is a bad percentage rate? Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetsam View Post

    p.s. what is a bad percentage rate? Thank you
    There is no real bad %'s or good %'s as such. Its mainly to do with traffic. Nobody wants 90% of nothing. Example, SM has one of the lowest %'s, 35%, with studios giving even less at 20%, yet its one of the places I recommend because the traffic is so good. Then we have AW at 70%, traffic isnt so good but it averages out because of the high %.

    Try a few big sites like mfc (50%? done by tokens), sm and aw and see which one works for you then stick to it.

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    Well not sure what tips to give u really...
    I only had a " decent" chat % on my first 2 days ( I guess cause I wAs new n some guys were curious about me... But then my % started going down n down, one day I was on for 6 hrs in a row n made NOTHING... Very frustating...
    The problem w that site is there s guys watching u but nobody wanna pay to enter your room since they can watch u for free for at least 3 mins..
    I used to try to not get naked fast , make them stay longer there but many many times u ll get guys who ll say " hi I m horny, get naked now" n if u get naked or not they ll leave right away anyways cause they wanted to cum in 30 secs ...
    N then if u r under 40 % I think it s management ll start sending e mails n tell u how u could pro ably fix that etc...
    I brought a friend of mine from Argentina to that site n it s good for her cause 8 $ an Hr in arg is 4 times more... But if u rbin the us like me it s not worth it...
    Not sure if it s cause I ve doing this for long or cause I have my own site where I m my boss n I m not used to people tell me what to do or what but.. I m glad I m working on my own again now.

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    OK thank you Melanie, I wanted to do the site because I felt like at least I
    would know what I am making each week and I kind of like having someone
    up my ass, so I don't get lazy and slack off. Right now my rating for my first week is down to 39.10, but on the first day it was 116% so yes it has already gotten slower. I will see how it goes, if it doesn't work out then I guess it wasn't meant to be. I live in Florida. I just don't want to get on their bad side so soon. I mean I think I have the innocent young look, I always have 50-150 guests watching me, and only a few come in a day lol. It's different. I will see how it goes. Thanks for your help.


    Quote Originally Posted by melanielive View Post
    Well not sure what tips to give u really...
    I only had a " decent" chat % on my first 2 days ( I guess cause I wAs new n some guys were curious about me... But then my % started going down n down, one day I was on for 6 hrs in a row n made NOTHING... Very frustating...
    The problem w that site is there s guys watching u but nobody wanna pay to enter your room since they can watch u for free for at least 3 mins..
    I used to try to not get naked fast , make them stay longer there but many many times u ll get guys who ll say " hi I m horny, get naked now" n if u get naked or not they ll leave right away anyways cause they wanted to cum in 30 secs ...
    N then if u r under 40 % I think it s management ll start sending e mails n tell u how u could pro ably fix that etc...
    I brought a friend of mine from Argentina to that site n it s good for her cause 8 $ an Hr in arg is 4 times more... But if u rbin the us like me it s not worth it...
    Not sure if it s cause I ve doing this for long or cause I have my own site where I m my boss n I m not used to people tell me what to do or what but.. I m glad I m working on my own again now.

    Melanie

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    Yes, on Secretfriends they are, and they will send you emails like the other girl read if it gets below a percentage. I just didn't know what that percentage was because I want it to be good enough that I will not get any emails. I wasn't referring to the percentage they pay. Because they pay hourly, but if your percentage is low, they will let you go, and that's why I asked. As far as MFC I am practically a veteran on that site lol. I started in Dec of 2008 I used to do pretty well, and I had a popular room, but when I got into a relationship with my ex-bf he wanted me to stop and I did because I really cared for him, and wanted to see where the relationship took me. I did go on from time to time, but my cam score on that site is like 1900 its pretty pathetic lol. It used to be close to 5k but that was before they had these outrageous cam scores they do now like the 873973083.00 lol. I signed up for Streamates two weeks ago, the traffic in my room seems dead, but when I do get some people the privates are someone consistent, but I blame that on not having the HD encoder, so I don't know where I show up on that site. When my ex moves out which will be at the end of our lease, I will have more time to dedicate to the sites, and I won't have to worry about someone telling me what to do. I have to take care of my finances. It' just better that way, but I broke up with him not because of that issue, its mainly because we havent had sex in months, and our relationship is like a really good friend ship, but not bf and gf, and our interests are different. He doesn't seem to like anything I like. So I take that as I sign, and move on. I am looking forward to being single, and being able to do whatever I want, when I want.

    sorry I went off topic a little. I am venting lol.


    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessJenny View Post
    There is no real bad %'s or good %'s as such. Its mainly to do with traffic. Nobody wants 90% of nothing. Example, SM has one of the lowest %'s, 35%, with studios giving even less at 20%, yet its one of the places I recommend because the traffic is so good. Then we have AW at 70%, traffic isnt so good but it averages out because of the high %.

    Try a few big sites like mfc (50%? done by tokens), sm and aw and see which one works for you then stick to it.

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    Thanks for letting us know! I try to stay away from cam sites that are bias on looks and ages.

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    I basically learned that all those sites that "pay u x hr" they will let u go or cut your hourly pay if u don t make enough money for them..
    Which kinda make sense but.... anyways, don t wanna talk about this kind of sites at the moment...
    And sweetsam I m sorry to hear about your bad relationship, but for what u say, u ll be allright and enjoying single life soon.
    It s better to be single than at some unhealthy relationship.
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    Thank you. I wouldn't say that it's unhealthy. I love him very much, and he is a great guy. We really hardly ever argue or anything, but it does seem like we are just friends and not bf and gf, so I wish him the best, I am sure we will keep in touch when he moves out. He can work on his company and I can do my stuff. We spent two years together, staying together any longer like this will end up being a waste of each others time.

    Quote Originally Posted by melanielive View Post
    I basically learned that all those sites that "pay u x hr" they will let u go or cut your hourly pay if u don t make enough money for them..
    Which kinda make sense but.... anyways, don t wanna talk about this kind of sites at the moment...
    And sweetsam I m sorry to hear about your bad relationship, but for what u say, u ll be allright and enjoying single life soon.
    It s better to be single than at some unhealthy relationship.

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    Hi there!
    Sorry, unhealthy relationship wasn t the right term... I meant to say a kind of relationship when you feel u r more like friends than bf/gf....
    So i think the decision you guys made is the right one.
    Let me know how SF works for u, maybe u do great there
    As long as u don t start receiving management e mails u ll be fine haha

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    I don't know if I am going to make it on here. It's sloooooooooooow super slow for me. My first check I only avg the $8 an hour plus some tips, and that's it. I am working 7 hours today on this site, I have been on two hours so far and nothing, only one person came in my room, he didn't say anything, I said hi, and nothing. He left........this is really hard. I don't know if it's going to be worth it in the end for me. I mean at least I know what I am going to make each week, but pretty sure I can make more on sm and mfc, and if I could just continue to stay focused and wake up early like I have been doing for sf then I think I could do well. I think I will finish this week and if my percentage is low by Friday, I might just scratch this off my list, and go back to the sites that work. Plus it's only a matter of time I am sure before they say my rating is too low and send me the emails, that I don't want to get.



    Quote Originally Posted by melanielive View Post
    Hi there!
    Sorry, unhealthy relationship wasn t the right term... I meant to say a kind of relationship when you feel u r more like friends than bf/gf....
    So i think the decision you guys made is the right one.
    Let me know how SF works for u, maybe u do great there
    As long as u don t start receiving management e mails u ll be fine haha

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    I know girl!! but to me being soooo slow was something i could try accept i mean i used to play cityville or hang out on FB or anything lol
    The problem is when your % gets low they start e mailing u every week, with pics ( they send u the worst pics they could take) and are gonna start telling u that u need to use more make up, do your hair better, etc etc like they did to me....
    And that s what started to piss me off so much, that s why i was so frustated, told that guy iwas leaving and that s why they fired me....
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    That's what I do until I see someone enter my chat...lol. I actually told her I didn't think this site was a good match for me because I sat for 5 hours with only two people coming in for a few minutes. She said she didn't want to see me go, and to try to work 2pm-2am because that's when the sight gets busy. I can't work those hours until my boyfriend moves out which will be next month. I am going to hold out for now. Give it a bit more of a chance..


    Quote Originally Posted by melanielive View Post
    I know girl!! but to me being soooo slow was something i could try accept i mean i used to play cityville or hang out on FB or anything lol
    The problem is when your % gets low they start e mailing u every week, with pics ( they send u the worst pics they could take) and are gonna start telling u that u need to use more make up, do your hair better, etc etc like they did to me....
    And that s what started to piss me off so much, that s why i was so frustated, told that guy iwas leaving and that s why they fired me....




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    For me it was slow all the time.... maybe u have better luck than me.... try different times and see what happens...
    My friend that works there got her her 1rst e mail from management yesterday...lol Oh boy, I told her to get ready, they ll probably send her one x week like me...lol
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    So to clarify...one only receives $8 an hour max to start whether a customer buys a show or not (since tips are optional)? I visited their so-called "faq" and they don't say a thing about rates. Or maybe I've had too much to drink and in my laziness, I missed where they outlined that?

    Shoot, I can deal with dancing around and being "ditzy" for a base rate, but not if that rate is relatively fixed despite performance. Most guys aren't going to tip if they just paid through the nose for a show and it bothers me that I don't see a cent of that.

    Did I misunderstand? :/

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    They told me, when u go on show, guys get 3 mins preview, well i m not sure, I had the feeling they could see the whole show, i remember going from 10 guys watching to 100 when i was giving a show....lol and that 100 was almost through all the show so.. not sure.
    I don t even know how much guys pay there but a friend asked one and the said he has to pay about 100 to chat with her for an hr... but then we make only 8 for that full hr??,,,
    I thought it was very unfair to be on line 6 hours, and have 1 hr on pvt, touching myself, etc and still get paid 8 an hr.....
    In the end I realized that all these sites that " pay u x hr" there s always some trick behind that..
    I cannot wait til i get a regular job again and camming becomes my pocket money and not my main income like now... it s hard ladies, I know some do great doing this but.... I cannot say the same and not having an steady income is very stressing...
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    Ah yeah. I was actually kind of piqued at the idea of this site sounding like the closest thing to a virtual strip club, but SM sounds like a better "deal". $8 as a base no matter who or how many come in? Ha, no.

    Also 3 mins for a "preview" is too long. I say 90 secs. Plenty of time for a guy to decide if he's intrigued enough to buy a show.

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    You can make more than the $8 an hour but it's based on your daily percentage. My first day I had a percentage of 116% so I asked the manager if that was good or bad and she said it was good. That 116% is $20 an hour. However I went to take a bathroom break and when I came back online It was slow for the next two hours. My percentage dropped to 68%. My first paycheck was at $8 an hour, but I did make some tips and you can keep 100% of the tips. I am taking a break on the site right now, until my boyfriend moves out in a month, because if you miss a shift you have to make up the hours. I had a bad week this week, and I missed a couple shifts so, I told her It would be better if I just come back in a month after my boyfriend moves out. Because otherwise if you continue to miss they let you go. Communication is key though. If I hadn't communicated my issues I would have been terminated from the site most likely. I still want to give it a chance so we shall see what happens in the future.


    Quote Originally Posted by Spinnerette View Post
    Ah yeah. I was actually kind of piqued at the idea of this site sounding like the closest thing to a virtual strip club, but SM sounds like a better "deal". $8 as a base no matter who or how many come in? Ha, no.

    Also 3 mins for a "preview" is too long. I say 90 secs. Plenty of time for a guy to decide if he's intrigued enough to buy a show.




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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCummings View Post

    - If you work for 40 hours a week you will get 20 dollars an hour minimum plus tips, instead of the 8 dollars an hour minimum.
    I worked for many months on SF, over 40hrs a week for a while, and never made it pass the $8 an hour. I learned the hard way.

    The pay rate only goes up when you have MANY paid vivistors simultaneously for VERY long period of times in your chat room, PLUS the long shift. The ammount of hours worked have no effect on the pay rate. I had a client that stay my entire shift with me on the chat room, and that did not even make a difference on the pay scale. But they might tell you that so that you work exuberant amount of hours hoping to reach that $24 hr pay.
    You might notice that the only time you pass that $8 hr pay is your first 2 weeks of work (maybe $10 -$12/hr) to get you all pumped up? I think they control or tweak that "rating" system to get what they want from you. After my first 2 weeks I was getting random paid visitors and working long hours and those shifts suggested , and never gain made over $8. But Yes, I pass that mark my first 2 weeks, having less (to almost none) paid visitors, for less time. hhhuumm!

    Between the constant admin emails, the 200 Free viewers and the one guess that might come in and annoy the heck out of you, yes, you might go crazy!
    Last edited by CuriousLatina; 09-01-2011 at 06:01 AM.

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