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    I think I would be happier at work if I felt more like myself. I prefer alternative music and prefer guys who have a lot of tattoos but I don't have a very edgy look. at work I have the girl next door look with the girl next door personality.

    what are some subtle ways I can look more edgy without completely turning off the customers?

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    Uhmmmmmm......

    1. What do you define as edgy?
    2. What sort of club do you work at?
    3. What kind of customers go to your club and spend money?
    4. Do "edgy" girls at your club bank?
    5. Is being edgy worth the risk of losing out on $$$$$?
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    Would be easier to suggest some changes if I knew what you looked like now?
    Description? Picture?
    What are you doing for hairstyle/makeup/costumes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    Uhmmmmmm......

    1. What do you define as edgy?
    suicide girls? stuff like that
    2. What sort of club do you work at?
    middle of the road but more on the upscale side. not divey at all
    3. What kind of customers go to your club and spend money?
    most of the guys that come in have some kind of money
    4. Do "edgy" girls at your club bank?
    I don't know
    5. Is being edgy worth the risk of losing out on $$$$$?
    not really but I think I might make more if I feel more like myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesuvsDeath View Post
    Would be easier to suggest some changes if I knew what you looked like now?
    Description? Picture?
    What are you doing for hairstyle/makeup/costumes?
    long brown hair to mid-back. makeup is always REALLY girl next door looking: light eyeliner, light mascara, light blush. I wear plain solid colored bikinis usually with 7" black shoes. I think dressing up a little edgier might make me more because I just get lost in the crowd. I'm getting bored with my look

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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    Black straight hair?

    fishnet thigh highs?

    red lipstick?

    OR

    wear your makeup and hair SUPER soft and feminine and wear more alt outfits? There's a girl at my club who has the most feminine look to her but every now and then she wears a super alt outfit (black chaps, black studded leather bikini) and it still works and she makes money because her face and hair look so ethereal.
    my skin is so fair that if I died my hair black I would look like a vampire lol. I could try some lipstick I'm gonna go outfit shopping soon too

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    long brown hair to mid-back. makeup is always REALLY girl next door looking: light eyeliner, light mascara, light blush. I wear plain solid colored bikinis usually with 7" black shoes. I think dressing up a little edgier might make me more because I just get lost in the crowd. I'm getting bored with my look
    Okay, I'd start with switching up the outfits a bit. If you normally like "cute" you could pick up something like a pleather stripper skirt (I've had mine for YEARS and love that thing!) and a cute top. If you normally like fishnets... head for some thigh highs and a long sleeved fishnet top.
    Fishnets/a skirt (even if a gothy pleather) are still close enough to standard costumes that they aren't really 'scary' to customers. lol

    Test the waters wearing something new and just style your hair and makeup however you like. Go from there.

    I've found that what works best is trying to put yourself at a point where you're alt enough to appeal to guys who like scene/goth/alt girls... but still being pretty/soft enough to appeal to men who don't like that sort of thing.
    There's a bit of a learning curve to find that point... but once you do. It's awesome such a HUGE customer base.
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    Heavier eyeliner -50's style with tails and blood red lips. Try and change your outfits a little. You can do cute and pink and pair it with a black ribbon in your hair or some thigh high stillettos or lace up gloves. Or some clip in streaks in your hair.
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    Default Re: I want a slightly more alternative look without killing my money

    I have a super alternative look, but still look very feminine. It can be done.

    If you wanna be heavily modified (ex: heavily tattooed with/or alternative hairstyles) then pair it w/ super feminine outfits (lingerie, cute short dresses, lots of pretty jewelry)



    Or you could do super alternative outfits (leather, faux latex, chaps, etc) w/ big curly,long, rockstar hair w/ super sexy vixen makeup & alt style jewelry.


    Alot of times it's just about balance. Good Luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by DesuvsDeath View Post
    Okay, I'd start with switching up the outfits a bit. If you normally like "cute" you could pick up something like a pleather stripper skirt (I've had mine for YEARS and love that thing!) and a cute top. If you normally like fishnets... head for some thigh highs and a long sleeved fishnet top.
    Fishnets/a skirt (even if a gothy pleather) are still close enough to standard costumes that they aren't really 'scary' to customers. lol

    Test the waters wearing something new and just style your hair and makeup however you like. Go from there.

    I've found that what works best is trying to put yourself at a point where you're alt enough to appeal to guys who like scene/goth/alt girls... but still being pretty/soft enough to appeal to men who don't like that sort of thing.
    There's a bit of a learning curve to find that point... but once you do. It's awesome such a HUGE customer base.
    that's EXACTLY what I mean. thank you so much desu!! sometimes I bank off the goth/punk guys but I have to sit there and talk with them forever to "prove" that I like their type of music. I had a VERY successful night last night so I'm def going outfit shopping

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandi_Lynn View Post
    I have a super alternative look, but still look very feminine. It can be done.

    If you wanna be heavily modified (ex: heavily tattooed with/or alternative hairstyles) then pair it w/ super feminine outfits (lingerie, cute short dresses, lots of pretty jewelry)

    Or you could do super alternative outfits (leather, faux latex, chaps, etc) w/ big curly,long, rockstar hair w/ super sexy vixen makeup & alt style jewelry.


    Alot of times it's just about balance. Good Luck
    I have a few small tattoos that men hardly notice, I've been thinking about getting one or two really big ones or one half sleeve, but for right now I need to stick with a look that I can take off at the end of the night. idk how the customers at my club will react to the alternative look and I need the money

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    Alt at its best:




    Guys love this look..... and it's out of the ordinary....
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    Meowwww!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xGigi View Post
    I have a few small tattoos that men hardly notice, I've been thinking about getting one or two really big ones or one half sleeve, but for right now I need to stick with a look that I can take off at the end of the night. idk how the customers at my club will react to the alternative look and I need the money

    Tattoos cost money.
    You don't know how custies will react.
    Something so permanent is an unwise risk to take, in my opinion.

    Change your hair style, try different outfits, switch up your makeup.

    See if it works in your favor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    Tattoos cost money.
    You don't know how custies will react.
    Something so permanent is an unwise risk to take, in my opinion.

    Change your hair style, try different outfits, switch up your makeup.

    See if it works in your favor.
    did you even read what I said???

    "but for right now I need to stick with a look that I can take off at the end of the night."

    also, I am aware that tattoos cost money. I HAVE tattoos.

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    I think keep your hair makeup nails etc normal and focus on alternative outfits. You can always take the outfit off, so if customers don't like the alternative look, they'll still be happy once you start dancing and get naked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xGigi View Post
    did you even read what I said???

    "but for right now I need to stick with a look that I can take off at the end of the night."

    also, I am aware that tattoos cost money. I HAVE tattoos.
    Yo!

    Tone the snarkiness down a touch.

    I was agreeing with you.

    I was merely stating more reasons why it may not be the best option. I was, in a FRIENDLY way, reinforcing your instincts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    Tattoos cost money. You don't know how custies will react.Something so permanent is an unwise risk to take, in my opinion.
    Meaning: "you are correct in feeling the way you do. It is very logical. I agree. You want to make money, not spend it. It is a permanent modification, which may, in fact, backfire. Kudos for not jumping the shark."

    Then offering up ideas that could help you out.

    ""I have a few small tattoos that men hardly notice, I've been thinking about getting one or two really big ones or one half sleeve, but for right now I need to stick with a look that I can take off at the end of the night. ""


    I was offering you advice based on the *bold* part of the statement..... a look that can be done and then undone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    Change your hair style, try different outfits, switch up your makeup.See if it works in your favor.

    When the fuck did it become sensible to chew someone out for agreeing with you? I fucking know you have tattoos... I was backing you up 100% in your plan to hold off on the sleeve idea.

    Not to mention posting advice on alternative, yet appealing looks you can try out at your club.

    Fucking aye.

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    Again, Pin up style, edgy & sexy, and soooooo desirable... From vixen to retro-beach bunny! Everyone loves it.
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    Also consider crystal tattoos...... they are strippery & glam.... but can be edgy depending on the design you choose.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=swaro...w=1264&bih=533

    i.e. http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/38...em_Tattoo.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    My skin is ghostlike, and yes I do better with a tan...and also, with a tan, I can get away with wearing heavier makeup and more alt costumes. I did really well in this set at my old club, unfortunately it's not legal at my new club and I've been too lazy to sew some opaque fabric underneath.
    I might actually need to order that outfit right now O_O

    and being tan doesn't make a difference for me. I've been pale, brown, and everywhere in between and I always make the same money the only difference being when I'm tan I get a lot of people trying to talk to me in spanish

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    try some clip in extensions, or a different shade of brunette [maybe darker brown with blonde streaks]
    make up makes a huge difference, smoky eyes x 4735864

    if you feel more alt at heart you might make more money being yourself. i used to be blonde barbie all stripperfied and stuff and i actually ended up making more money with bright red extensions and more alternative outfits. i was cooler, i stood out, i sounded more genuine, i wasnt bummed about putting on an act anymore and i dont know i actually make a lot more money than i did as a blonde.

    as long as you dont do the whole 180 and go black lipstick and dreadlocks.
    i reccomend getting the suicide girls book. very sexy alt girls with alt makeup and outfits. and theyre fucking hotttttt.

    ive actually been wanting more big tattoo pieces lately without killing my money.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by anouk.oui View Post
    try some clip in extensions, or a different shade of brunette [maybe darker brown with blonde streaks]
    make up makes a huge difference, smoky eyes x 4735864

    if you feel more alt at heart you might make more money being yourself. i used to be blonde barbie all stripperfied and stuff and i actually ended up making more money with bright red extensions and more alternative outfits. i was cooler, i stood out, i sounded more genuine, i wasnt bummed about putting on an act anymore and i dont know i actually make a lot more money than i did as a blonde.

    as long as you dont do the whole 180 and go black lipstick and dreadlocks.
    i reccomend getting the suicide girls book. very sexy alt girls with alt makeup and outfits. and theyre fucking hotttttt.

    ive actually been wanting more big tattoo pieces lately without killing my money.....
    that's exactly how I feel. and lol I know a few girls with dreadlocks in different clubs who bank. clubs up near boston especially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesuvsDeath View Post

    I've found that what works best is trying to put yourself at a point where you're alt enough to appeal to guys who like scene/goth/alt girls... but still being pretty/soft enough to appeal to men who don't like that sort of thing.
    There's a bit of a learning curve to find that point... but once you do. It's awesome such a HUGE customer base.

    That's a good way to think of it.

    I've always been the token rocker girl, and after I cut my hair blonde and short, I thought my tattoos were gonna clash with my "cute little hair cut".
    I thought that the guys who liked the cute blonde hair would be turned off from my tattoos, and the guys who loved my tattoos would be turned of from my short blonde hair...BUTTTT....it just opens the door for more customers.

    So thanks for that.

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    Lots of good tips here. I like to do henna sometime to test the waters and to see if I like the idea of waking up to it all the time. I have a friend that pays me to henna "Tip to start the booty shake" It sounds bad but it seems to be the bluntest way to get them to tip.. And I have seen it work and it gets me some day time work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xGigi View Post
    my skin is so fair that if I died my hair black I would look like a vampire lol. I could try some lipstick I'm gonna go outfit shopping soon too

    I have black hair and pale skin
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