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    hey guys,

    i feel like the first couple seconds are important. like the way you walk up and the 'opening line', little things you do etc. I feel like apparently the way I do it gives them the opportunity to reject me. Last night I tried the 'just pop down on their lap' thing which I hate doing but it works better. (I actually observed it working with all the other girls so I forced myself to try it although I HATE sitting on people's laps)

    So what's your opening strategy?

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    I never just plop on someone's lap. It seems too vulture-ish. I try as much as possible to approach them from the front, smile and make eye contact, sit in a chair next to them and say something like, "Hi handsome! I just wanted to stop by and say hello." And from there I make the small talk. "Have you been here before?" If he says yes then, "Well then, you know how things work.." you can go into your sales at that point. Or if they say no, "Let me just let you know how things work around here.." Then you can say, "So shall we get started?" *sexy smile as you grab his hand* Either he'll buy or he won't. If he doesn't then just tell him you'll be back to check on him later. Always leave in a positive manner! This entire exchange should take no more than 5 minutes.

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    My tactics change frequently depending on the guy, but bringing it down to basics, I think the best approach is without any rush. Whether you're going to stick out your hand and smile coyly, or saunter over and seat yourself at their side, as long as you breath, and take your time asking and answering questions then it's fine. A pause in conversation is sexier than a flustered mess of a question.
    And always be polite. An awkward conversation at the beginning of the night can turn into quite a few dances later if you assess the situation and politely excuse yourself, to give the customer time to enjoy the show a little more before you return. I've had the rudest, most jet-lagged customers empty their wallets just by politely accepting that they aren't ready to spend at that time, then returning later. Manners matter.
    Do you have Dancerwealth? Its really helpful judging how to approach different people.

    I'm not sure how well that answered your question, so in addition, my generic approach is to try and make eye contact on the way over, take their hand and introduce myself with a smile, sit next to them and give them a kiss on each cheek, then turn and offer my hand to any/everyone they are with for more introductions. Basic manners, but it allows time to assess the situation and if they do happen to decline your company, you can leave in a ladylike manner and nobody feels pressured/guilty.

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    When approaching gentlemen I never simply plop into their laps. This seems overwhelming and trust me, it's not often that guys run to the back with the first girl who throws herself on him, they usually give her "thanks but we just got here, give me a minute to have a drink" spiel.


    First thing I walk past a group of guys briefly and see which is looking at me closely, I then approach the group of customers head on, and say something like "hey handsome" or "hi boys, what bring you all out tonight" with a flirty smile and hair toss or wink.

    then awkward club small talk

    Second thing I do is open the conversation to sales, I ask have you ever been in before? If they say yes I usually say something like "Well, now that you've had a chance to relax are you ready to go have some fun?" Or "Well since you know the ropes already how about we go get started" If they say no I give them the spiel followed by one of the comments.
    If they say No to me I turn on the bitch face and go "well sweetie when you change your mind you let me know, your just going to end up wanting me anyways"

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    I won't ever sit in someone's lap (that's not allowed on the floor of my club, all the action happens in a seperate room), but I will definately try and make sure I make some kind of physical contact right at the start... Usually I place my hand on his upper thigh after shaking his hand hello. That way, when you go to make your pitch I feel like it's easier and smoother and less awkard to move it up to his chest from there, rather than having gone from zero contact to rubbing his body! Oh, and it'll probably keep his attention a little more throughout the chit chat!

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    it doesn't matter what you say. just smile and make eye contact.

    sometimes I'll say something silly like "howdy!" or "bonjour!" to make them laugh

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    ^^ goodfellas yah?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirakonstantin View Post
    More fear-mongering? Really? Yes, this is not the 1990's anymore. Yes, things are changing. Either dance or don't. Freaking out and sowing fear isn't going to help anyone.




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    check out Britney Ireland/Superstripper Ezine articles.
    Tiny tweaks----->BIG CHANGES

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirakonstantin View Post
    More fear-mongering? Really? Yes, this is not the 1990's anymore. Yes, things are changing. Either dance or don't. Freaking out and sowing fear isn't going to help anyone.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickdreams View Post
    ^^ goodfellas yah?

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    Fuck- don't have it, might put on Snatch or Lock Stock instead
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirakonstantin View Post
    More fear-mongering? Really? Yes, this is not the 1990's anymore. Yes, things are changing. Either dance or don't. Freaking out and sowing fear isn't going to help anyone.




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    I usually say 'what's up honey' or something like that and then they say 'nothing, what's up with you?' or 'just chillin'. I find it really hard to build up a conversation when they're saying stuff like that. any tips?

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    "What's up" is a pretty closed off question. Try asking how their day/week/weekend is going instead, what their plans are for the night/upcoming weekend, if they're celebrating something, etc. Open-ended stuff that can lead to conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    I giggle and shriek and pose in front of them.
    This literally sent me into a fit of laughter... Bahaha!

    For big groups of Party-men, I usually just walk up and say loudly and full of confidence "So what's new and exciting Boys?". Often times I'll rest my hands on the table and lean in a bit so my huge boobs become the focus instantly.

    It's a good opener, not too direct, and leads to some open-ended answers. You can also gauge who's interested pretty well by who answers first (usually it'll be something like "You are babe!" - it's like a big arrow pointing and saying "HUSTLE THIS GUY!").



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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    I giggle and shriek and pose in front of them.
    Okay, I just scrolled up to re-read this and started laughing again. This time I had a mouthful of yogurt that dribbled out and down my chin. It's gross but that's how funny I find this comment. It gives me hilarious mental images and reminds me of DOZENS of first-night dancers I've seen in the past....



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    [quote=4everresolutions;2182711]This literally sent me into a fit of laughter... Bahaha!

    For big groups of Party-men, I usually just walk up and say loudly and full of confidence "So what's new and exciting Boys?". Often times I'll rest my hands on the table and lean in a bit so my huge boobs become the focus instantly.
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    More fear-mongering? Really? Yes, this is not the 1990's anymore. Yes, things are changing. Either dance or don't. Freaking out and sowing fear isn't going to help anyone.




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    At my club it's a quick hustle. If you waste your time talking to guys and being methodical with your hustle (i.e. making some dramatic 7 minute conversation) you'll walk out with $200. Girls like me that make $600-$700 consistently are always moving, even when it's slow. Charge $40 instead of $20 for touching. I just ask whose ready for a dance. That's it, nothing special, don't sit down. I'd rather sit alone than talk to a customer.

    I use sales, but only once they've committed to a lap dance. I've found it's easier to do all lap dances than VIP's. I say "dances are $20 but for $40 you can touch anything but my vagina". Of course they can't slap me, bite me, put their mouths on me, touch my butt crack, my face, etc. but there's no reason to get that into the explanation. It's a quick three minute lap dance. I can play dodge the hands for 3 minutes. Do you know that after charging $40/dance I have had zero incidents of pussy touching without permission versus the 6 incidents I had in one month when I charged $20? I don't tell them about the $40 until we get back there, before the dance starts. That way they've committed to at least $20 and my sexiness, away from their meddling friends, usually gets them to agree. I made $775 last Saturday and danced on laps for a total of 1 hour and 18 minutes out of a 7 hour shift. The rest of the time I just floated around, relaxed, asked for dances casually and didn't stress and went on stage.

    Dances are supposed to be $20. The club takes $7 of this. If I charge $40 for touching my boobs and butt (which probably 90% of the customers say yes to) then I make $33 in one song, three minutes. If I get nine $40 dances then I've made $297. If I get eighteen $40 dances then I've made $594. Simple as pie. Tips from the dances and stage fill in the rest. It's not difficult to get eighteen guys to agree to give you $40 on any given night. It takes less mental energy from me. I don't care about their stories so I'd rather quickly grab a guy, dance for him, and then move onto the next one. I can have $300 by 2AM but easily make another $475 by 4AM, I did it last Saturday! You'll get a few guys a night who will get 3 or more dances at $40/piece, they usually tip too. That helps!

    It's better than doing a VIP. 15 minutes is $85 for example, I keep $55 after Deja Vu's cut. Or for 6 minutes of couch dances at $40/piece I make $66. Hmmm? $11 more for 9 minutes less work.
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    I wish I worked where you live... We are strictly forbidden to overcharge for dances and they're allowed to touch anywhere anyways. they even get BJs for the price of a dance so it's tough...

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    Quote Originally Posted by crystalize View Post
    I wish I worked where you live... We are strictly forbidden to overcharge for dances and they're allowed to touch anywhere anyways. they even get BJs for the price of a dance so it's tough...
    No way you need to switch clubs

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    lol i worked in literally every club in miami and they're all the same.. on a different note I tried the 'how's your day been?' and it works pretty well in getting a conversation going.

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    'just pop down on their lap'
    Wanna dance? is probably a better alternative and what @Kaiarose said it's vulture-ish.

    Not everyone wants to sit on laps me included. I think it's trashy and short sighted.

    So if you don't like to do it - don't sit on laps.

    @Laurisa, girl you are selling yourself short at $40 a dance.

    If I charge $40 for touching my boobs and butt (which probably 90% of the customers say yes to) then I make $33 in one song
    I couldn't even handle 1% of guys touching my boobs.

    90% at $33 a pop?!

    Wow.




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    ^^How much do you expect me to charge when a 15 minute VIP is $85 (of which I keep $55). I'm making 11 dollars more in 2 dances (6 minutes) for 9 minutes less work.

    Figure it this way. That's $33/3 minutes which is $660/hour if you went continuously.

    I average $100/hour, which is just as much as an anesthesiologist who spent 12 years in school. There is nothing about what I'm doing that is selling myself short, that's a joke. Making $6000+ per month for only 16 hours of work per week is wonderful.

    Your 90% figure is all of the paying customers. 90% of the customers that come into the club do not touch my boobs, 90% of the PAYING customers that buy dances from me do. It's a hand touching my boob, I don't see the problem. I don't let them suck on my nipples or put their mouths on me. It's a hand on my boob, no big deal.
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    15 minutes minimum $100. That's five songs at $20 a piece. Extras cost more.

    There is absolutely no point in doing extras if a dancer is not going to charge for it.

    Otherwise it's not an up sell it's an under-cut.

    The slow season is about $100 an hour in most areas. $200 and hour plus is peak.

    Giving it away for $40 ($33 is even worse especially if you have to pay house on top of the $7.) isn't fair to other dancers that are not willing to even have a guy lay a hand on them.

    And yes $40 is giving it away.

    Guys touching boobs is a huge deal for a lot of dancers.

    90% of the PAYING customers that buy dances from me do.
    I didn't misread that. 99% of my paying customers DO NOT touch my boobs.

    What I am saying is that your approach is not going to work for a majority of dancers.




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    didn't you say a few weeks ago it's impossible to make money where you work and girls are regularly leaving in the red?
    I said:

    I'm sure some girls can make $1000 a night. Others will work 8 hours and make $200 before or after tip out.
    The context was that dancers shouldn't fall for deceptive club tactics on the Internet and fly half way across the country for what someone else deemed as "puppies and rainbows" e.i.; making $1000 a night which you have to give much of it to the club.

    If a friend of mine calls me and says "hey I'm making $1000 a night" it's worth checking out.

    If a club has to go online and say they're hurting for girls but they can make $1000 a night - that sounds too good to be true.

    $100-200 is just a guess. So if a girl is having customers do a lot of touching and is more high mileage I'm assuming they are making more.

    $40 and no boob touching is a feat.
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    I'm not undercutting other dancers that are making $13 after the club's cut when they don't allow touching.

    I am charging an extra $20 (dances are normally $20, which is where the $40 total comes from) so they can touch me for 3 minutes. Since I am charging double I am not undercutting, and I am doubling the price of one dance (and any consecutive dances).

    A stripper charging $20 for a HJ when dances are $20 is undercutting. Or, me letting them touch my boobs for $20 is undercutting.
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